[Question] Why is Hawk Eyes So Over hyped On This Forum? People Think He Beats WB lol
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And what shows Akainu being below Shanks?
To add to this, he made it a point to say "stronger than Kaido."
That shows that, at least for now, creature includes all humans and Kaido is on top.
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Completely agree. Nothing warrants Mihawk being on that tier as of yet. He wanted to test the gap in power between him and WB, and he got his answer. His attack fell short before it even got to reach WB. Portrayal couldn't of been more clear cut then that. Assessing him by his title alone is nothing but a flimsy argument, especially when his swordsmanship wasn't shown to be above Vistas by any significant margin based on their brief clash.
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I am sure :|, It took a diamond form Jozu to block a long range "testing" slash meant for flesh instead of diamond to be stopped... and you're still saying he's not top tie
I don't think he beats Whitebeard, but the difference is that i don't think any top tier alive can beat him either. It shouldn't be used to downplay Mihawk. The difference between Mihawk and the rest of the top tiers is that he is a loner. Unlike other top tiers, he doesn't have a group to protect him when he wants to defend himself or send when he wants to attack. If he wants to kill someone, he has to do it himself. If he has to defend himself, he has to do it himself and the war of the best gave an example of this and when he was the one who noted the power of gaining allies is the most dangerous ever(i don't think it's a coincidence he is the one, as a loner, Oda decided to highlight that power). It's one of the reasons why i believe he is so underrated. When a yonko can count on subordinates to defend and protect himself making him look good, Mihawk has to do everything on his own
Regardless of how you feel about the debate around who is a swordsman or not, by portrayal alone, he should be in that pinnacle of strength. Oda gave him a world title recognized by the one piece world in terms of fighting ability(an acknowledgement only Whitebeard and Kaido received. Even Big Mom who should be the world strongest woman didn't receive such an important title accomplishment, so it should speak volume to how Oda views that title) to the point that he even created an island of swordsmen in the middle of a yonko saga hyped to be so strong even the world government don't come near, is portrayed as Shanks' rival in strength, is portrayed as Zoro's ultimate goal, the firstmate of the future pirate king, destinated to be the future version of Rayleigh, whose character is build entirely around strength. So it's just a matter of putting 2 and 2 together to know he simply can't be anything less than a top tier level fighter
So a diamond man blocking an attack not aimed at him or a Vista stalling him for few seconds shouldn't really be enough to downplay him, not when his full power is reserved for the end of the manga. Seriously the yonko commanders are just getting fleshed out and they don't even seem to be that far out of the reach of the guys in the worst generation. Zoro alone will most likely show his full power against someone even more powerful than Vista, let alone Mihawk who is his ultimate goal
Regardless of how you feel about the debate around who is a swordsman or not, by portrayal alone, he should be in that pinnacle of strength. Oda gave him a world title recognized by the one piece world in terms of fighting ability(an acknowledgement only Whitebeard and Kaido received. Even Big Mom who should be the world strongest woman didn't receive such an important title accomplishment, so it should speak volume to how Oda views that title) to the point that he even created an island of swordsmen in the middle of a yonko saga hyped to be so strong even the world government don't come near, is portrayed as Shanks' rival in strength, is portrayed as Zoro's ultimate goal, the firstmate of the future pirate king, destinated to be the future version of Rayleigh, whose character is build entirely around strength. So it's just a matter of putting 2 and 2 together to know he simply can't be anything less than a top tier level fighter
So a diamond man blocking an attack not aimed at him or a Vista stalling him for few seconds shouldn't really be enough to downplay him, not when his full power is reserved for the end of the manga. Seriously the yonko commanders are just getting fleshed out and they don't even seem to be that far out of the reach of the guys in the worst generation. Zoro alone will most likely show his full power against someone even more powerful than Vista, let alone Mihawk who is his ultimate goal
This is funny because Kizaru received the same treatment at that same moment. Another misunderstood moment. That moment wasn't to dehype Mihawk or Kizaru. It was to hype up Marco and Jozu with Mihawk being known as the world strongest swordsman and Kizaru being known as an admiral. That's why the observers were shocked by their respective attacks being blocked. They were the ones used as a reference to hype them up and you can only be used as a reference when you're considered to be in that pinnacle of power
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Mihawk may be a better swordsman than Shanks, but Shank's haki shits on Mihawk.
In an actual fight Shanks should be able to defeat mihawk with mid-high diff. Mihawk isnt pushing Shanks to Extreme High Diff.
In an actual fight Shanks should be able to defeat mihawk with mid-high diff. Mihawk isnt pushing Shanks to Extreme High Diff.
For sure bro! I Agree. Plus, Whitebeard is dead now though. So Kaido has this title no matter what. Although this was never brought up while Whitebeard was alive.. so I'm not too sure what Oda was implying with that.. probably just genius story telling as always lol
Here we go again with the Shanks haki splitting fighting styke theory but the mid-high difing of Mihawk is something new. I'd be surprised if he is even stronger at all, let alone mid-high diffing Mihawk. Damn the Shanks wankers keep getting worst by the second. Can't wait for when Blackbeard crushes him to end that overhyping
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You know BB wouldn't deflate any hype from anyone since he's the wielder of the 2 strongest fruits of their class though right?
He had those fruits when he ran from Akainu preskip and he is still considered weaker than Kaido post-skip,so? Bssides i'm not saying it would be bad but at least it'd destroy the Shanks image conception people keep having concerning him fight. It doesn't take much for it to happen. Just look at Kid now who gets downplayed when he lost to the strongest top tier alive
. People now treat him like trash and we're in Urouge's era now who used to be considered as one of the weakest
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never saw Mihawk's haki, concludes Shanks haki shits on Mihawk's
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Easily stopped Akainu's magma fist and he was able to clash with Old WB (without Marineford injuries) when Shanks told him to stop Ace from going after Blackbeard
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I am sure after Cody stopping Luffy after going G4 and defeating Mingo would be a huge feat...
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Coby couldn't stop Luffy even if his body was made of seastone. Also Akainu didn't seem nearly as tired as Luffy after Doffy at MF.
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Here's Akainu stopping WB's swing the same way Shanks stopped Akainu's punch. So I'm assuming you'll agree WB is below Akainu the same way you say Shanks is above Akainu?
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