[VS] Admiral Kizaru (borsalino) Vs. Admiral Akainu

[HashiraMadara]

Are you challenged? I addressed every part of your post.

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If Roger would not mid diff an admiral what was special about the word Pirate King, what's different about it from a Yonko[/COLOR]

 

[TRE MERCER]

Akainu wins high diff

If aokiji lost high diff then Kizaru doesn't stand a chance

This is so wrong Kuzan is easily portrayed to be the weakest.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Does Aokiji have leadership qualities?

Yes. He's led Buster Calls, and Sengoku saw him fit for the position, so he obviously has leadership qualities.

Unlike Akainu Kizaru "peek a boo'd" Newgate to get that shot which to me means no significance.

Nope. Whitebeard swung his Bisento at him, Kizaru phased through it, held it down with one foot, and then shot Whitebeard. Whitebeard was the one who tried to sneak attack Kizaru, and Kizaru turned the tables.

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If Roger would not mid diff an admiral what was special about the word Pirate King, what's different about it from a Yonko[/COLOR]

The Pirate King is whoever accomplishes a specific task in his era. For Roger, it was be the first person to go across the entire world. For this era, it's find One Piece. To be a Yonko you just need obscene strength, lots of territory, and a substantial amount of followers.

 

[Lord Tywin]

It was never once stated that WB's potency with his Devil Fruit decreased with age. The only things noted to have weakened in WB were his stamina and his reflexes. The only difference between prime and old WB, as given in the manga, is that prime WB can fight longer and see faster.

You realize these are parts of battle strength as well, right? Reflexes is a huge part of it. You're saying it yourself that his reflexes were higher in prime. This gap could allow whiteboard to counter the damage he took at MF of he was younger by dodging or any other means. So don't come out saying that the difference is reflexes casually, like it's not a huge factor

 

[Punk Hazard]

You realize these are parts of battle strength as well, right? Reflexes is a huge part of it. You're saying it yourself that his reflexes were higher in prime. This gap could allow whiteboard to counter the damage he took at MF of he was younger by dodging or any other means. So don't come out saying that the difference is reflexes casually, like it's not a huge factor

I understand this. What I'm saying is that the fact that Kizaru, Kuzan, and Akainu all could contend comfortably with Whitebeard's attack power shows they're not below his level like the fellators in here will try to make seem like fact.

 

[-Akuma-]

It was never once stated that WB's potency with his Devil Fruit decreased with age. The only things noted to have weakened in WB were his stamina and his reflexes. The only difference between prime and old WB, as given in the manga, is that prime WB can fight longer and see faster.

A sick and old Newgate never ****ed up a current top tier. He jumped Akainu, and didn't even KO him or take him out of the war. When he and Akainu fought in a straight fight, Whitebeard lost.

It was said his strength in general decreased meaning that the potency in his fruit should have, you don't just pick up the Guea and eat it going straight to WB level.

Old Newgate completely ****ed Akainu up while holding back power from his Gura, which he had to the whole war.

 

[Apple Knight]

Their Both very Strong but Akainu wins this fight.

 

[arv993]

It was never once stated that WB's potency with his Devil Fruit decreased with age. The only things noted to have weakened in WB were his stamina and his reflexes. The only difference between prime and old WB, as given in the manga, is that prime WB can fight longer and see faster.

A sick and old Newgate never ****ed up a current top tier. He jumped Akainu, and didn't even KO him or take him out of the war. When he and Akainu fought in a straight fight, Whitebeard lost.

You mean a sick old and hurt wb managed to stalemate akainu. I like how you say only stamina and reflexes like those are very meaningless things in a fight. A young wb would be harder to hit and with higher stamina be a better tank then he was at MF when he was getting heart attacks. I wouldn't say mid diff but prime wb would high diff an admiral. Oda clearly hyped the old hen above current admirals only kaido is given hype that can challenge the likes of roger, prime garp, prime wb and Shiki.


And attack power isn't everything in a fight and characters like Doffy are proof of it luffy can be superior in firepower and still lose, wb was on par and DC wise better than admirals and him with better reflexes and stamina would make him a monster that the admirals would lose to without a doubt albeit giving him a high diff fight. The admiral d riding is insane on the base there's absolutely no otherworldly hype given by oda which was given to almost all the top tiers of the previous gen.

 

[Punk Hazard]

You mean a sick old and hurt wb managed to stalemate akainu. I like how you say only stamina and reflexes like those are very meaningless things in a fight.

I like how you completely missed the point. The difference between Akainu vs WB young and old would just be Akainu and WB matching each other's blows for longer.

A young wb would be harder to hit

How? Speed and movement has never been shown to WB's forte.

and with higher stamina be a better tank then he was at MF when he was getting heart attacks.

Yup, like I said above, he'd going be longer. Which means it'd just be more of Akainu vs WB before the heart attack, which is them deflecting magma and quakes.

Oda clearly hyped the old hen above current admirals

Where?

wb was on par and DC wise better than admirals

Except his Quakes and Akainu's magma was easily matched. WB has never shown greater destruction feats than Akainu.

 

[ToshiZO]

The classic old gen wank stays strong.

 

[Bogard]

*Sigh* And the admiral overrating continues... Half dead old Whitebeard almost 2shotted fresh Akainu. Prime Whitebeard was a tier above Akainu, deal with it

OT: Akainu extreme diffs for obvious reasons

The classic old gen wank stays strong.

Lmao funny what i posted right after this

 

[Punk Hazard]

*Sigh* And the admiral overrating continues... Half dead old Whitebeard almost 2shotted fresh Akainu.

Lol what? WB's two blows on Akainu didn't stop him from running through the war and clashing with Marco, Vista, Crocodile, and the other commanders by himself. If those two blows almost took out Akainu, then it means WB's crew is weak as shit for not being able to finish him off with all their commanders but 2 and dozens of their people.

Whitebeard didn't do nearly as much damage as you're wanking it to be

 

[Bogard]

Lol what? WB's two blows on Akainu didn't stop him from running through the war and clashing with Marco, Vista, Crocodile, and the other commanders by himself. If those two blows almost took out Akainu, then it means WB's crew is weak as shit for not being able to finish him off with all their commanders but 2 and dozens of their people.

Whitebeard didn't do nearly as much damage as you're wanking it to be

He was so weakened he couldn't even avoid a fall and it took several minutes for him to recover(in the meantime Whitebeard was dealing with the marines and Blackbeard pirates) before he actually came back still panting. Akainu did shit against the commanders. He had half the marines as support. I love how people always ignore this when it comes to the Akainu wank

 

[ToshiZO]

Noooo don't start.

 

[arv993]

I like how you completely missed the point. The difference between Akainu vs WB young and old would just be Akainu and WB matching each other's blows for longer.


How? Speed and movement has never been shown to WB's forte.


Yup, like I said above, he'd going be longer. Which means it'd just be more of Akainu vs WB before the heart attack, which is them deflecting magma and quakes.



Where?


Except his Quakes and Akainu's magma was easily matched. WB has never shown greater destruction feats than Akainu.

His haki allowed him to avoid attacks from even his allies where as later he got stabbed by squardo and was called a a shell of himself. His DC is better and his stamina would allow him to last longer and why Tf would he get a heart attack when he was young like are u serious right now.

Where's akainu's worlds strongest man hype(this was from when he is young and right after roger passed, garp got marines hero and Rogers equal hype, where is akainu hype coming anything close to that. And roger is on par with worlds strongest man in strength when they were young and even now only kaido gets the best hype of all of the current fen where he is given the best hype you can be given saying that on a 1v1 pick kaido. Yea akainu matched a sick old and hurt wb that's equal hype lol give me a break

You are wanking akainu beyond belief. You casually don't even consider stanina and reflexes like they mean zero in battle. I guess we measure ppl on just if they match attacks. Luffy>Doffy by that dumb standard.

Noooo don't start.

Yea cuz u two have the losing argument no hype to back it up plain and simple.

 

[ToshiZO]

His haki allowed him to avoid attacks from even his allies where as later he got stabbed by squardo and was called a a shell of himself. His DC is better and his stamina would allow him to last longer and why Tf would he get a heart attack when he was young like are u serious right now.

Where's akainu's worlds strongest man hype(this was from when he is young and right after roger passed, garp got marines hero and Rogers equal hype, where is akainu hype coming anything close to that. And roger is on par with worlds strongest man in strength when they were young and even now only kaido gets the best hype of all of the current fen where he is given the best hype you can be given saying that on a 1v1 pick kaido. Yea akainu matched a sick old and hurt wb that's equal hype to w/e mentioned.

You and toshi casually don't even consider stanina and reflexes like they mean zero in battle. I guess we measure ppl on just if they match attacks. Luffy>Doffy by that dumb standard.

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[Punk Hazard]

He was so weakened he couldn't even avoid a fall and it took several minutes for him to recover

Bullshit. The bottom of the cavern that Whitebeard made was filled with water. Unless it takes Akainu ten minutes to fall a few meters, then he was able to recover right away, seeing as he didn't fall into the water and drown.

(in the meantime Whitebeard was dealing with the marines and Blackbeard pirates) before he actually came back still panting.

Because burning through the ground with magma is just instantaneous. And where was he panting?

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Akainu did shit against the commanders. He had half the marines as support. I love how people always ignore this when it comes to the Akainu wank

No he didn't. Show me in one of those panels where Marines other than Akainu were in that area of ice.

 

[mishoa]

Wow, people actually still think Admirals=Yonko:hyper:

Three couldn't take a sick and dying WB down. Not to mention Oda clearly told us Admirals+Shichibukai collectively=Yonko's collectively.

 

[arv993]

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Atleast come up with a funny meme or something so I can laugh. I kno u don't have solid rebuttal that's the least u could do.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Wow, people actually still think Admirals=Yonko:hyper:

Three couldn't take a sick and dying WB down. Not to mention Oda clearly told us Admirals+Shichibukai collectively=Yonko's collectively.

Nope. Oda said Warlords=Yonko=Marine HQ.