Trans-Atlantic SLAVE trade was a LIE

[Loki d]

When Colombus arrived there were already blacks on plymouth rock in this so called New World...

1. It's near impossible to travel across the atlantic with so many slaves let alone in the way they portrayed the slave cabins and what about food and water??

2. Where are all these slave ships bruh???? *****s can find dinosaur bones from millions of years ago but no slave ships...

3. West Africans tell a different story...have no stories about trading/selling their people but instead wars with the white men...some Africans say they got their information about African American history from Westerners when it comes to slavery..

4. If you look at many places in the world, the natives in these lands are mostly black aka darker skin tone.

5. Why did black americans go from negro to colored people to African American??

6. Apparently the first europeans that landed here saw black people already here....documented...

7. It was told that the native americans (Arawaks) that lived in the Carribeans went extinct but there no evidence at all that these people existed....all you see is just black people...

There is more but let me stop there....

I don't believe in any of that religious blacks are the real Hebrews crap....but I know for a fact that through common sense that black people are natives to Americas too...

The Slave trade happened but not the exaggerated way the American agenda loves to push....tbh how can you fight against Native Americans and handle a massive slave trade across a stormy ass ocean known to rock modern steel ships...

 

[YowYan]

You know..that quote in Your sig doesn't help Your case.

 

[Wrappering_]

They were not slaves, they were workers with bad contracts.

 

[Mizutoki]

You need to add resources to all these claims. Yeah we can find dinosaur bones and not find slave ships but theres just way to many reasons as why we cant.

 

[Loki d]

You need to add resources to all these claims. Yeah we can find dinosaur bones and not find slave ships but theres just way to many reasons as why we cant.

Do you know those reasons?? I would be happy if you could inform me...

 

[HashiraMadara]

Any evidence, theory, talks of Abu Bakr II(brother to the richest man who ever lived Munsa Musa) the Malian royalty who crossed Atlantic before anyone in the world are quickly destroyed as they shade the accepted fact on slave trading etc.

He(Abu Bakr) built "vessels" to cross Atlantic etc 200 years before any European. However on books's opinion are separated on he made it on the Caribbean and others he never succeeded.
There is huge evidence of African traces in America before any European settler BUT CALLING THIS ULTIMATE TRUTH AND TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE A LIE WOULD BE UTTER NAIVETE AND FOOLISHNESS

 

[YowYan]

When Colombus arrived there were already blacks on plymouth rock in this so called New World...

1. It's near impossible to travel across the atlantic with so many slaves let alone in the way they portrayed the slave cabins and what about food and water??

2. Where are all these slave ships bruh???? *****s can find dinosaur bones from millions of years ago but no slave ships...

3. West Africans tell a different story...have no stories about trading/selling their people but instead wars with the white men...some Africans say they got their information about African American history from Westerners when it comes to slavery..

4. If you look at many places in the world, the natives in these lands are mostly black aka darker skin tone.

5. Why did black americans go from negro to colored people to African American??

6. Apparently the first europeans that landed here saw black people already here....documented...

7. It was told that the native americans (Arawaks) that lived in the Carribeans went extinct but there no evidence at all that these people existed....all you see is just black people...

There is more but let me stop there....

I don't believe in any of that religious blacks are the real Hebrews crap....but I know for a fact that through common sense that black people are natives to Americas too...

The Slave trade happened but not the exaggerated way the American agenda loves to push....tbh how can you fight against Native Americans and handle a massive slave trade across a stormy ass ocean known to rock modern steel ships...

I'm genuinely interested in This topic though. Can You provide anything with substance?

 

[Loki d]

I'm genuinely interested in This topic though. Can You provide anything with substance?

Well I had watched several videos and it was mainly this one that helped me form my own opinion on the subject matter:

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I know for a fact that black people were already here in the Americas...in terms of evidence there are photos of black Indians...Frederick Douglas never referred to himself as African like many others...I've come across many quotes from black figures in U.S. history who say shit like "God made me a stranger in my own home" or MLK's "an exile in his own land"...

In my opinion slavery was real but the slave trade exaggerated some negroes were already here plus the numbers don't add up with the slave trade story...they change the amount of slaves every other year....I remember a different figure as a young boy...

 

[HashiraMadara]

Well I had watched several videos and it was mainly this one that helped me form my own opinion on the subject matter:

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I know for a fact that black people were already here in the Americas...in terms of evidence there are photos of black Indians...Frederick Douglas never referred to himself as African like many others...I've come across many quotes from black figures in U.S. history who say shit like "God made me a stranger in my own home" or MLK's "an exile in his own land"...

It it's not a 100% fact :sdo: neither is the trans atlantic slaves. They may even be both true :sdo:

 

[Mizutoki]

Do you know those reasons?? I would be happy if you could inform me...

Sure from just reading around the internet.
My first and best answer would be recycling, those ships that youre looking for toward the end of the trade were transitioned for different uses.
Secondly the same ships that are called slave ships were no different from regular ships carrying merchant.

What I said does not prove or disprove anything.
Simply putting it this is mostly pointless to start a thread. We don't have the proof or history.

I'm also not disagreeing with you either, just trying my best to give you my reasons that you asked me for.
I'm asking for the source's in which you based your claims from, that I can study.

 

[Loki d]

I don't know where you're getting your information from, but the Caribbean was mostly inhabited by the Taíno, a subgroup of the Arawak, and these people were certainly not of the "black" you speak of. I'm from Puerto Rico and there are still a couple of our beautiful Taíno ancestors left, and trust me when I tell that they look nothing like the damn slaves the dirty, diseased, bastard Spaniards brought here to degrade our genes.

Nobody said that there couldn't be different types of tribes....Of course there was diversity back not everyone was from the same ethnic group.

 

[HashiraMadara]

We don't have the proof or history.

Proof and evidence are 2 different things

 

[Mizutoki]

Proof and evidence are 2 different things

If you mean Abu Bakr II. Theirs no evidence that he reached the Americas. All of which that say he did is based on word of mouth.

However there are supposed African remains that are being discovered thousands of years before the new world.
Again, this subject of ancient remains is barely touched.

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However this book is highly controversial and thus comes out having a bad reputation.

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

Any evidence, theory, talks of Abu Bakr II(brother to the richest man who ever lived Munsa Musa) the Malian royalty who crossed Atlantic before anyone in the world are quickly destroyed as they shade the accepted fact on slave trading etc.

He(Abu Bakr) built "vessels" to cross Atlantic etc 200 years before any European. However on books's opinion are separated on he made it on the Caribbean and others he never succeeded.
There is huge evidence of African traces in America before any European settler BUT CALLING THIS ULTIMATE TRUTH AND TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE A LIE WOULD BE UTTER NAIVETE AND FOOLISHNESS

I thought that vikings were first.

 

[Loki d]

It it's not a 100% fact :sdo: neither is the trans atlantic slaves. They may even be both true :sdo:

So much happened that we don't know about...tbh

If you mean Abu Bakr II. Theirs no evidence that he reached the Americas. All of which that say he did is based on word of mouth.

However there are supposed African remains that are being discovered thousands of years before the new world.
Again, this subject of ancient remains is barely touched.

You must be registered for see links

However this book is highly controversial and thus comes out having a bad reputation.

I disagree with there being Africans but I agree there were blacks here before Columbus.....many of the natives on the pacific islands were black...they didn't come on a slave ship.....these are natives that can be confused as foreigners due to their features

 

[Mizutoki]

So much happened that we don't know about...tbh

I disagree with there being Africans but I agree there were blacks here before Columbus.....many of the natives on the pacific islands were black...they didn't come on a slave ship.....these are natives that can be confused as foreigners due to their features

Nice edit lol
Well I dont think we will ever know for sure. I'm neutral I guess. I think its possible it happened and impossible.
Well not neutral but I seriously don't have the answers.

 

[HashiraMadara]

I thought that vikings were first.

I wouldn't refer to Green Land and Victorian Islands as the "real america"

 

[Sagebee]

I can't say I know the full history of slavery in America, but doesn't black people today in the Americas and America acknowledging itself prove it to be true? And there's enough historical proof to corroborate the story so I'm confused how you could possibly deny it.

 

[Alien X]

Sounds like you are very resourceful :|

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Have you ever been to West Africa??

The Colonial prisons that were set up on the Gold Coast to imprison innocent men women and children are still there to this day.

Nigerians would tell a different story wouldnt they. Because it was the Nigerians who allowed the Portugese to dock and trade with them. This included trading servants. It was after this that the French, British, Spanish, and Italians attacked and invaded the rest of Africa.

Yeah... thanks Nigeria; you should have told the Portugese to piss off.

The natives of America and the Caribbean were dark/black skinned people with jet black straight/curly hair.

The Arawaks did exist in Jamaica. When the British invaded they were literally wiped out but those who survived fled up to the mountainous areas of Jamaica. The Slaves being taken into Jamaica at this time by the British were from Ghana. Some of these Slaves fought against the British and defeated them and obtained their freedom througj literally being warriors. These freed (ghanaian) slaves then went to the mountai nous areas where they met the remaining Arawaks; the two tribes of people then mixed and a New Tribe/Society formed. These were known as the Jamaican Maroons.

Around 350+Million Slaves were taken from Africa over the course of 400 years. Some people say its upward of that number.

One of the first Slave Ships was to land was called 'The Great Ship Jesus' bearing in mind the Brits believed they were bringing religion. Even though the Africans had it from before, stemming from Ethiopia. Another slave ship was the Royal Britannia.

Regardless of whether you believe the black people to be the Children of Israel, or not; the fact is that they are still the original man and in that aspect you could say the children of Adam. Subsaharan black has no homoneanderthalensis DNA whereas europeans, asians and southasians do

In regards to why the complexion changed from African, to Caribbean/Afro American, i think that would partly be due to the fact that tribes mixed during the slave trade. As well as that, European DNA was mixed into the gene pool over the course of 400 years.

The transatlantic Slave Trade was NOT a lie.

Look arlund you. The banks, the government buildings, the farms tje fields, everything in society was actually set up iff of the backs blood sweat tears and the lives of innocent men women and children.

Of course there are slave ships. Ever been to the National British History Museum?