[VS] Kizaru vs Doflamingo

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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

..... why is this even a thing doffy would put up a fight but he is not pushing kizaru past mid-Semi high maybe
Kizaru would without a doubt win but he would have to put effort


I rank doffy in terms of overall power level especially 1v1 a little bit below Marco
I firmly believe anything the white beard pirates did in maineford doffy could replicate it or do moves that is on that level no problem

How ever like how the whitebeard pirates are shown against an admiral they can put up good fight but would ultimately lose

 

[Cursed Prince]

I see Kizaru losing, based on everything we've seem from him at marineford. With moves like ever white and Doffy's incredible toughness I can see him winning high difficulty, although that's only because it's a bad match-up imo

 

[king madara]

Kizaru wins this. Kizaru can move at high speed. Doflamingo will not be able to keep up with him.

 

[arv993]

..... why is this even a thing doffy would put up a fight but he is not pushing kizaru past mid-Semi high maybe
Kizaru would without a doubt win but he would have to put effort


I rank doffy in terms of overall power level especially 1v1 a little bit below Marco
I firmly believe anything the white beard pirates did in maineford doffy could replicate it or do moves that is on that level no problem

How ever like how the whitebeard pirates are shown against an admiral they can put up good fight but would ultimately lose

Marco was a bad matchup towards kizaru, nothing indicated that kizaru could hurt Marco. It was a stalemate, kizaru had to rely on sea stone even when Marco turned his back and was vulnerable. So in that matchup they were actually equal. But kizaru lower end of high diffs doffy.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Kizaru high diffs Doflamingo.

I see Kizaru losing, based on everything we've seem from him at marineford. With moves like ever white and Doffy's incredible toughness I can see him winning high difficulty, although that's only because it's a bad match-up imo

Dude, Kizaru had feats parallel to Akainu, who by all accounts could have killed Whitebeard himself at Marineford. What are you smoking?

 

[Cursed Prince]

Kizaru high diffs Doflamingo.


Dude, Kizaru had feats parallel to Akainu, who by all accounts could have killed Whitebeard himself at Marineford. What are you smoking?

Feats parallel to Akainu? All i saw him use was speed hax, pretty much everything else was ineffective. His destructive power is lower than Doffy's I'd say and he's vulnerable to armament. With Doffy's style he's going to catch Kizaru and that's gg

 

[loj]

Kizaru mid diff

 

[Punk Hazard]

Feats parallel to Akainu? All i saw him use was speed hax, pretty much everything else was ineffective. His destructive power is lower than Doffy's I'd say and he's vulnerable to armament. With Doffy's style he's going to catch Kizaru and that's gg

He was able to hold down Whitebeard's Bisento with one leg, just Akainu did. His light bullet was able to stop Whitebeard from proceeding onward, and was able to phase through a direct hit from Whitebeard despite him in all likelihood using Haki. He was able to clash with Marco, who was also able to stalemate Akainu.

 

[Passerby]

Kizaru one shots lol
Since when was Doflamingo Admiral/Yonko level lol

 

[Wrappering_]

Basil Hawkins stomps both, or does he?

OT: I think this is a one-sided battle, I mean if it were any other Admiral, I might've said Doffy, but Kizaru is on a different level.

 

[loj]

I see Kizaru losing, based on everything we've seem from him at marineford. With moves like ever white and Doffy's incredible toughness I can see him winning high difficulty, although that's only because it's a bad match-up imo

@bold

you must be absolutely kidding me right now

 

[Punk Hazard]

Kizaru one shots lol
Since when was Doflamingo Admiral/Yonko level lol

Doflamingo has better physical feats than Fujitora, so he's not as far below as you think.

 

[Cursed Prince]

He was able to hold down Whitebeard's Bisento with one leg, just Akainu did. His light bullet was able to stop Whitebeard from proceeding onward, and was able to phase through a direct hit from Whitebeard despite him in all likelihood using Haki. He was able to clash with Marco, who was also able to stalemate Akainu.

Marco was able to stalemate them both only because of the nature of his abilities. That's what most fights in OP come down to; Abilities. Doffy is nothing like Marco, he can't phase through attacks. But he can attack from virtually anywhere, set strings as traps around him and imbue them with armament haki(and conqueror's). He also has a defense that's arguably stronger than Whitebeard's, I'm not sure if it was age or style that made him fight so recklessly. If you picture them fighting, you can imagine how Doffy's style is perfect for use against those with speed hax logia abilities. The only reason he lost to Luffy is that Luffy had an impenetrable defense that Kizaru doesn't have. So if they fought, I'm saying Kizaru wouldn't be able to put him down efficiently and with the way he moves he would get caught sooner rather than later

 

[Punk Hazard]

Marco was able to stalemate them both only because of the nature of his abilities. That's what most fights in OP come down to; Abilities. Doffy is nothing like Marco, he can't phase through attacks.

Marco doesn't phase through attacks either. Oda stated in SBS that Marco has a tangible body that's covered in special flames. When an attack pierces through Marco's body, it's doing just that: Piercing through a tangible form that is then regenerated.

Marco stalemated Kizaru through the two of them clashing with their normal, untransformed-limbs. Even if Doflamingo couldn't replicate the effectiveness of Marco's kick, he can recreate the nature of that exact kick through using Haki.

But he can attack from virtually anywhere, set strings as traps around him and imbue them with armament haki(and conqueror's). He also has a defense that's arguably stronger than Whitebeard's, I'm not sure if it was age or style that made him fight so recklessly. If you picture them fighting, you can imagine how Doffy's style is perfect for use against those with speed hax logia abilities. The only reason he lost to Luffy is that Luffy had an impenetrable defense that Kizaru doesn't have. So if they fought, I'm saying Kizaru wouldn't be able to put him down efficiently and with the way he moves he would get caught sooner rather than later

I highly doubt this. If Luffy could avoid those strings and even break them, then fighters on the level of Kizaru would be able to as well. Not to mention that Kizaru is also capable of long-range combat.

 

[Clouds]

Since doflamingo got nearly one shotted by Kuzan id give this to Kizaru low-mid diff.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Since doflamingo got nearly one shotted by Kuzan id give this to Kizaru low-mid diff.

Nearly one-shotted? He wasn't even paying attention to Kuzan when he launched the ice to freeze him and was able to break out of it before it froze his innards. That in no way resembles being near a one-shot.

 

[Clouds]

Nearly one-shotted? He wasn't even paying attention to Kuzan when he launched the ice to freeze him and was able to break out of it before it froze his innards. That in no way resembles being near a one-shot.

He froze him and everything around him with his hands in his pockets. He was also clearly paying attention since Kuzan gave him a warning before launching that attack. And by the time doffy escaped he could have gotten his head blown off.

 

[Cursed Prince]

Marco doesn't phase through attacks either. Oda stated in SBS that Marco has a tangible body that's covered in special flames. When an attack pierces through Marco's body, it's doing just that: Piercing through a tangible form that is then regenerated.

Marco stalemated Kizaru through the two of them clashing with their normal, untransformed-limbs. Even if Doflamingo couldn't replicate the effectiveness of Marco's kick, he can recreate the nature of that exact kick through using Haki.


I highly doubt this. If Luffy could avoid those strings and even break them, then fighters on the level of Kizaru would be able to as well. Not to mention that Kizaru is also capable of long-range combat.

Kizaru's toughness is nowhere near Luffy's, I think you guys are overestimating the Admirals imo. I don't see how Kizaru could break through the strings especially if they're imbued with Haki or otherwise. In terms of brute strength, which would be the only way to break through them if he gets caught, Luffy is above all the Admirals except Sengoku. It's his specialty. Now Kizaru could dodge, but he can only do that for so long especially since he's so predictable. And Doflamingo could take enough attacks to be able to grasp his speed

Actually I take that back, forgot Kizaru was fighting hand to hand with Rayleigh

 

[Punk Hazard]

He froze him and everything around him with his hands in his pockets. He was also clearly paying attention since Kuzan gave him a warning before launching that attack. And by the time doffy escaped he could have gotten his head blown off.

First of all, Kuzan's hands being in his pockets means absolutely nothing. Kuzan doesn't have a power that requires him to physically exert himself. He froze miles upon miles of water for five whole days just by dipping his fingers inside.

Kuzan warned him, but Doflamingo took his attention off of Kuzan and put it back on Smoker, as Kuzan froze him while he was delivering another attack to Smoker. Nothing indicates that Doflamingo took so much time to break that it'd be a window for Kuzan to attack him, not to mention that nothing indicates that Doflamingo couldn't have avoided it if he was paying attention to Kuzan instead of Smoker.

Kizaru's toughness is nowhere near Luffy's, I think you guys are overestimating the Admirals imo. I don't see how Kizaru could break through the strings especially if they're imbued with Haki or otherwise. In terms of brute strength, which would be the only way to break through them if he gets caught, Luffy is above all the Admirals except Sengoku. It's his specialty. Now Kizaru could dodge, but he can only do that for so long especially since he's so predictable. And Doflamingo could take enough attacks to be able to grasp his speed

Power-scaling. Kizaru could stand up to Whitebeard and keep him from moving forward, but you think he's less tough that Luffy? Kizaru took a kick from Marco, someone who could push Akainu, and didn't receive a scratch, but Lufy was injured by someone who can't beat Admirals(Doflamingo).

Luffy is above all the Admirals in brute strength? So you think Luffy is above Whitebeard too in brute strength?