[VS] Kisame vs kakashi (war arc)

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Bad matchup for Kisame. Electricity conducts with water, meaning Raiton will conduct with Suiton

Wrong Ration can only conduct water when the body of water is smaller than the conduction of ration being added WD is to large or any other of kisame's large scale water jutsu. Its like dropping a radio in a Olympic pool and expecting to kill someone
 

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The sand the water, and the lightning were a combination jutsu. The sand was used to block Preta from absorbing the water + lightning. If Madara stopped using Preta he would be hit by the suiton + raiton = paralysis.

Simple af. He wasn't absorbing the lightning, and water.

Lmao, wtf? EZQ was right. Read the context. "If you don't like the sand, just stop absorbing the jutsu! (Referring to the Suiton+Lighting) Though, THEN you'll be zapped by the lightning water dragon missile and immobilized". It's saying if Madara wants to get rid of the sand, then he's going to have to stop using Preta Path (because sand can't be absorbed) and use something else. However, if he cancels Preta Path to counter the sand, then the water/lightning combo will immobilize him. So either Madara was going to get sealed away from the sand, or he was going to get immobilized and then taken out by Jinton is what the Kage thought.

And, no. Samehada tastes the flavor of different chakras that it absorbs.

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It simply didn't like the taste of the Katon chakra, which is why it complained to Bee about it. No reason to believe it won't like Raiton chakra, especially when it canonically absorbed it already without any disliking towards it. Also, elemental attacks have never ever shown to retain it's properties while being absorbed. Any jutsu in general, actually. When a jutsu is being absorbed, it's properties have always been cancelled out. So with accuracy from the manga, Samehada absorbs almost anything within it's maximum chakra capacity.
 

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Lmao, wtf? EZQ was right. Read the context. "If you don't like the sand, just stop absorbing the jutsu! (Referring to the Suiton+Lighting) Though, THEN you'll be zapped by the lightning water dragon missile and immobilized". It's saying if Madara wants to get rid of the sand, then he's going to have to stop using Preta Path (because sand can't be absorbed) and use something else. However, if he cancels Preta Path to counter the sand, then the water/lightning combo will immobilize him. So either Madara was going to get sealed away from the sand, or he was going to get immobilized and then taken out by Jinton is what the Kage thought.

And, no. Samehada tastes the flavor of different chakras that it absorbs.

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It simply didn't like the taste of the Katon chakra, which is why it complained to Bee about it. No reason to believe it won't like Raiton chakra, especially when it canonically absorbed it already without any disliking towards it. Also, elemental attacks have never ever shown to retain it's properties while being absorbed. Any jutsu in general, actually. When a jutsu is being absorbed, it's properties have always been cancelled out. So with accuracy from the manga, Samehada absorbs almost anything within it's maximum chakra capacity.

Chakra flavor hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 

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Lmao, wtf? EZQ was right. Read the context. "If you don't like the sand, just stop absorbing the jutsu! (Referring to the Suiton+Lighting) Though, THEN you'll be zapped by the lightning water dragon missile and immobilized". It's saying if Madara wants to get rid of the sand, then he's going to have to stop using Preta Path (because sand can't be absorbed) and use something else. However, if he cancels Preta Path to counter the sand, then the water/lightning combo will immobilize him. So either Madara was going to get sealed away from the sand, or he was going to get immobilized and then taken out by Jinton is what the Kage thought.

And, no. Samehada tastes the flavor of different chakras that it absorbs.

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It simply didn't like the taste of the Katon chakra, which is why it complained to Bee about it. No reason to believe it won't like Raiton chakra, especially when it canonically absorbed it already without any disliking towards it. Also, elemental attacks have never ever shown to retain it's properties while being absorbed. Any jutsu in general, actually. When a jutsu is being absorbed, it's properties have always been cancelled out. So with accuracy from the manga, Samehada absorbs almost anything within it's maximum chakra capacity.



If Samehada tries to taste/eat Amaterasu, it's going to die. #ScienceFax #MangaFax #AbsoluteZeroTaughtMe
 

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Bet ya didn't know that water doesn't conduct electricity only the particles in it doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Not that it matters Kisame absorbs the raiton whether its conducted or not, he wins this pretty easily.
 

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Bet ya didn't know that water doesn't conduct electricity only the particles in it doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Not that it matters Kisame absorbs the raiton whether its conducted or not, he wins this pretty easily.

Yup this is right. A pure sample of H20 doesn't conduct electricity. Very interesting point to bring
 

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Yup this is right. A pure sample of H20 doesn't conduct electricity. Very interesting point to bring

I don't know how pure it would be though :lol but the electricity would probably not be very potently conducted.
 

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War arc Kakashi does not exist any Kakashi past Kakuzu fight could have done that giving that the were constantly replenished by Kurama's chakra

This statement has been shat on a lot of times.

Kakashi only got 2 chakra boost. One from Kurama that gave him 3x chakra boost and ended up quickly because he warped 2 times the Hachibi, and one chakra cloak from Naruto that allowed him to be able to (attempt) to warp the Juubi.

Kakashi after bleeding his eye (meaning his chakra was low af) warped himself from the other dimension with his own chakra reserves, and then, with normal chakra reserves again, he warped the gedo mazo's arm.
 

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This statement has been shat on a lot of times.

Kakashi only got 2 chakra boost. One from Kurama that gave him 3x chakra boost and ended up quickly because he warped 2 times the Hachibi, and one chakra cloak from Naruto that allowed him to be able to (attempt) to warp the Juubi.

Kakashi after bleeding his eye (meaning his chakra was low af) warped himself from the other dimension with his own chakra reserves, and then, with normal chakra reserves again, he warped the gedo mazo's arm.

Lol i even remember tre mercer used this on a debate of Gai vs Itachi saying gai was replenished or something like that, and you were the judge and said i was right
 

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Samehada tasting the flavour of chakra doesn't take anything away from the fact that Killer Bee clearly implied Samehada got burned. "Ok that was hot, didn't mean to burn...."

Tasting something says nothing about the properties (in this example temperature) of a particular food. You can eat a burning dish, how good or bad it tastes doesn't have to be related to the temperature of the food. We know samehada eats chakra that doesn't mean anything unfortunately regarding how the fireball was implied to be hot for it.
 

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kisame wins

his elemental jutsu R too dynamic for kakashi to ''tactic around'' any of them & counter w/ clones/kamui
 
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Samehadas absorbing properties are vastly overrated when talking about elemental attacks. Straight up chakra is a different thing altogether but even something as simple as a fireball had Samehada choking up.
Samehada wasn't choking up it hit Killer Bee because no where in this scan does it suggest Samehada was choking up.
 

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Samehada wasn't choking up it hit Killer Bee because no where in this scan does it suggest Samehada was choking up.

Arguing semantics? Bee clearly says there it was too hot, all that matters here.
 
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Arguing semantics? Bee clearly says there it was too hot, all that matters here.
That proves my point in the first place. Samehada doesn't like heat. Heat is carried with fire thus Samehada was angry when Bee used it to absorb the Katon. How is this suppose to be helping Kakashi though?
 

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That proves my point in the first place. Samehada doesn't like heat. Heat is carried with fire thus Samehada was angry when Bee used it to absorb the Katon. How is this suppose to be helping Kakashi though?

Cool?
 

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Yea. Just as long as you know your point was shut down.

Lmao are you ok? Who are you even arguing with? Seems you're talking to yourself, you didn't do anything but repeat what I already said in this thread. Stop quoting me.
 
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Lmao are you ok? Who are you even arguing with? Seems you're talking to yourself, you didn't do anything but repeat what I already said in this thread. Stop quoting me.
Never did i repeat myself i was just explaining why your Samehada doesn't work well against Elements claim was completely wrong.
 
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