Sasuke's Chakra Control is something else ... Part I.

[Jokule67]

Core chakra? Absolutely not. Kurama hands over kneaded chakra to Naruto. His BM avatar isn't even made by him. You can see the scans I gave to Micheal on the previous page. Which begs the question; where does Naruto fit in all this anyway?

Naruto doesnt have to knead kyuubi chakra. What he does is mix it with his own and manipulate it. He is master at controlling the chakra.

You think Sasuke Susano'o is made by him? His eyes create the being. Sasuke puts in work by stabilizing the otherwise flaring chakra. Its a testament to both of their mastery over their respectiive chakras.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

[GLOW][/GLOW]

Is that what you've taken from our friendship Shazzy? I would never attack you, only drop logic.

We had a friendship? Thats news to me.

 

[shelke]

Naruto doesnt have to knead kyuubi chakra. What he does is mix it with his own and manipulate it. He is master at controlling the chakra.

You think Sasuke Susano'o is made by him? His eyes create the being. Sasuke puts in work by stabilizing the otherwise flaring chakra. Its a testament to both of their mastery over their respectiive chakras.

So, Kurama's chakra can be used unkneaded, which he why it exploded in his face many times because he couldn't make a mini-tbb? And which is why Bijuus and Kurama always present (and even state) that they are presenting kneaded chakra to him? Furthermore, Kurama doesn't put any of Naruto's feats even close to Sage's. Post a scan from the manga if he did.

Damn, I even posed those Itachi and Madara scans. No, man, a Uchiha fairy does it. Susanoo is used without the eyes, FYI, it is simply unlocked through them. Another incorrect claim.

Face it, Naruto can only hope to match this level.

 

[Michael]

I'll just leave this here and be on my way.

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[LoZelda101]

Cool. Now wtf is COAT? Lol

 

[Jokule67]

And? The mode grants automatic "universal grasp of all things," and still Naruto asks for kneaded chakra. He is not the Sage of the Six paths. His CC isn't at the SO6P, otherwise, Kurama or anyone, would have stated so and his feats would have shown so. Since no one did, it isn't.

And you dont think Sasukes Rinnegan grants him control over bijuu? Or chakra ratios?

If you seriously think Narutos CC isnt on Sasukes level you have a few screws loose.

 

[shelke]

And you dont think Sasukes Rinnegan grants him control over bijuu? Or chakra ratios?

If you seriously think Narutos CC isnt on Sasukes level you have a few screws loose.

Rinnegan provides CC? This is absurd! Genjutsu is through Sasuke's own skill. I guess Sage is wrong as well in his implicature of Sasuke's skill. Everyone is.

It isn't. The manga makes no such claims. None at all. Instead of being emotionally moved, why not post scans and prove everyone wrong? I am sure you can do so, as you have the manga backing you. So, what's stopping you from getting the scan?

 

[shelke]

Cool. Now wtf is COAT? Lol

Creation of all Things.

I'll just leave this here and be on my way.

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So, you basically stated what I did? "Something that is used to connect people?"

Wow, you showed me.

 

[Jokule67]

So, Kurama's chakra can be used unkneaded, which he why it exploded in his face many times because he could make a mini-tbb? And which is why Bijuus and Kurama always present (and even state) that they are presenting kneaded chakra to him? Furthermore, Kurama doesn't put any of Naruto's feats even close to Sage's. Post a scan from the manga if he did.

Damn, I even posed those Itachi and Madara scans. No, man, a Uchiha fairy does it. Susanoo is used without the eyes, FYI, it is simply unlocked through them. Another incorrect claim.

Face it, Naruto can only hope to match this level.

The fact that Susanoo is "unlocked" proves they dont make it dude. Its already there and develops on its own.

The only reason it exploded in his face was because he hadnt mastered it yet. He mastered it later on in the battlefield. The mechanics of TBB never change. Mixing the black/white chakra is vital. Kurama doesnt do that. Naruto does.

I dont have to face anything dude. Nice thread but your last statement is untrue. Unrivaled feat definately. But his chakra control is not on a level other God tier characters cant reach. Not in the least.

Given the same chance Naruto could easily handle the bijuu chakra. However I do believe he is the only other capable of this. Madara maybe.

 

[lndra]

He has superb CC.

 

[6thHokage]

This thread rustled Michael's jimmies.

 

[Jokule67]

Rinnegan provides CC? This is absurd! Genjutsu is through Sasuke's own skill. I guess Sage is wrong as well in his implicature of Sasuke's skill. Everyone is.

It isn't. The manga makes no such claims. None at all. Instead of being emotionally moved, why not post scans and prove everyone wrong? I am sure you can do so, as you have the manga backing you. So, what's stopping you from getting the scan?

You made the point of Naruto having SPSM yet dismissed Sasukes own Rinnegan which has literal control over biju chakras.

Yes Rinnegan is a tool that Sasuke handles well but you cant deny that without it he cant manipulate that chakra. He uses paths the meld the chakra dude.

Naruto matched it with his own Nature Energy. Without control hed turn to stone as we all know. Everything with chakra recquires chakra control.

But like I said, Superb job on Sasukes part. I cant deny a feat as awesome as Bijuu Susano'o and the feat is unrivaled.

 

[shelke]

The fact that Susanoo is "unlocked" proves they dont make it dude. Its already there and develops on its own.

The only reason it exploded in his face was because he hadnt mastered it yet. He mastered it later on in the battlefield. The mechanics of TBB never change. Mixing the black/white chakra is vital. Kurama doesnt do that. Naruto does.

I dont have to face anything dude. Nice thread but your last statement is untrue. Unrivaled feat definately. But his chakra control is not on a level other God tier characters cant reach. Not in the least.

No, it doesn't. Already proved you wrong through the scans. Kindly, stop posting fan-fictions and bring out manga statements. Susanoo doesn't develop on its own. If it did, then Sasuke wouldn't have different versions of Complete and V3 Susanoo like Madara for MS and EMS.

So, you proved me right, that the chakra requires kneading, which he doesn't do on his own? The dude doesn't even make the damned avatar. Doesn't make the chakra used for it. What does he do himself anyway as he has that unmatched CC according to you?

Which God-Tier Shinobi characters? The Sage? Sasuke matches him. Madara, maybe does, as well. Kaguya? Nobody matches her. Naruto? Gets kneaded chakra. Seriously, where is the manga scan of Kurama claiming that "Naruto, you have done this like the Sage." In lieu of flip flopping, get the scan.

 

[shelke]

You made the point of Naruto having SPSM yet dismissed Sasukes own Rinnegan which has literal control over biju chakras.

Yes Rinnegan is a tool that Sasuke handles well but you cant deny that without it he cant manipulate that chakra. He uses paths the meld the chakra dude.

Naruto matched it with his own Nature Energy. Without control hed turn to stone as we all know. Everything with chakra recquires chakra control.

But like I said, Superb job on Sasukes part. I cant deny a feat as awesome as Bijuu Susano'o and the feat is unrivaled.

What do you mean by that anyway? Which part of Rinnegan grants Chakra control? Post a scan.

Which path allows to mold the chakra? I cannot wait to read this!

Sorry, but that is Frog Sage Mode's problem. Both Kabuto and Hashirama absorb and put out access NE to use techs. Furthermore, Kurama made the three-headed avatar and Kurama sent in the NE. Again, you absolutely fail to back up your claim that Naruto matches Sasuke in manner here.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

SSS is the strongest family in NV hands down. Whoever disagrees is just salty.

Sakura has destroyed the uchiha name even sasuke doesn't wear the emblem because of her and Sakura will destroy sarada potential like she destroyed the uchiha clan.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Great thread! You backed up your claims with nothing but Manga scans!

I also wanted to add that 16 years old Sasuke is able to do both Elemental manipulation and Shape manipulation all with one hand in the form of Chidori spear and he did that without Orochimaru's knowledge=No one to guide him, on his own all in one hand, when it took Naruto Kakashi's help in order to do RS which requires elemental and shape manipulation as well with the help of 3 clones.

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every day I always wonder more of what the f**k ws jman and Naruto doing all these years lmao. Good point. Plus he taimed lightning with his Kirin jutsu.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Sakura has destroyed the uchiha name even sasuke doesn't wear the emblem because of her and Sakura will destroy sarada potential like she destroyed the uchiha clan.

I agree! Mooooooo Vulpini.

 

[lndra]

What do you mean by that anyway? Which part of Rinnegan grants Chakra control? Post a scan.

Which path allows to mold the chakra? I cannot wait to read this!

Sorry, but that is Frog Sage Mode's problem. Both Kabuto and Hashirama put out access NE to use techs. Furthermore, Kurama made the three-headed avatar and Kurama sent in the NE. Again, you absolutely fail to back up your claim that Naruto matches Sasuke in manner here.

I don't think he's saying that the Rinnegna provides chakra control, although it would be stupid to deny that all of their overall abilities were increased through their power ups (Such as; Chakra pool, chakra control, strength, speed, durability, life force, etc.,) -- I think he's saying that Sasuke utilized a Path to help sort out the Bijuu Chakra (Outer Path) in order to place it into his Susano'o.

Still it's Sasuke's feat regardless, he's just saying he utilized a technique to do it rather than just 'doing it'. If that makes sense, or if I'm reading his posts right.

 

[shelke]

This thread rustled Michael's jimmies.

When did they ever stop rustling?

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, but Sasuke did utilize Outer Path to use his Susano'o on the Gedo Manzou as Madara would of done (or anyone with the Rinnegan) if they had the actual vessel in front of them.

Since when is PS a Mezo vessel? Since when can anyone use it in a manner Sasuke did?

 

[Jokule67]

No, it doesn't. Already proved you wrong through the scans. Kindly, stop posting fan-fictions and bring out manga statements. Susanoo doesn't develop on its own. If it did, then Sasuke wouldn't have different versions of Complete and V3 Susanoo like Madara.

So, you proved me right, that the chakra requires kneading, which he doesn't do on his own? The dude doesn't even make the damned avatar. Doesn't make the chakra used for it. What does he do himself anyway as he has that unmatched CC according to you?

Which God-Tier Shinobi characters? The Sage? Sasuke matches him. Madara should as well. Kaguya? No body matches her. Naruto? Gets kneaded chakra. Seriously, where is the manga scan of Kurama claiming that "Naruto, you have done this like the Sage." In lieu of flip flopping, get the scan.

Dude Naruto matches his feat with his own NE. Hed turn to stone if he couldnt control it. He merges his, fox, and NE.

Regarding Susano'o, they dont imagine and create it. Sharingan determines what it looks like. It goes through stages on its own based on emotions. You are dead wrong about Susano'o.

Like I said before without Rinnegan he cant mold all that chakra. Just like Naruto needs his bijuu affinities/chakra.

Call it fanfic but you know its true.