I've always been an advocate of Itachi>Ms Obito based on manga statements and feats. However, the manga does imply that Itachi doesn't know about Obito's intangibility and how it works... So with Obito having the clear manga intel advantage, he undoubtedly wins.
Without intel, Obito has the advantage in the beginning of the fight, but as the fight goes on the advantage will quickly turn into itachi's favor. logically obito could just warp behind itachi and snatch him away. But base upon obito's previous fights he tends to just phase through everything till he comes close to his target then warp him. but knowing itachi's intellect and reaction timing; by the time obito gets that close he'd figured out a strategy how to defensively counter him after 1-2 failed attempt jutsus.
If itachi tried to cqc obito, he'll inevitably lose since he lacks an out to kamui unlike minato. (thou, KG said susanoo could work) however, base upon itachi's previous fights. he'd likely use a clone or long range tech asap. so unless obito dodges it (which I doubt) he'll phase through it, which will instantly start giving intel to itachi's quick thinking. at this point. all itachi would have to do is use clones to test the water. (kamui intel) then once he figured out a strategy, he'll likely use feints such as clone explosion or crow spawn to leave obito vulnerable the moment obito solidifies to grab itachi, then itachi quickly strikes with susanoo punch/karate chop. worst case scenerio, if obito is in itachi's LoS and is ready to solidify in order to grab him if amaterasu is fast enough. it'll force obito to go back or stay in ghost mode thus sparing itachi and giving him more intel. it's the similar situation danzo's guards baited obito.
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tl:dr
The longer the fight goes on, the faster and more likely itachi will win.
Without intel, Obito has the advantage in the beginning of the fight, but as the fight goes on the advantage will quickly turn into itachi's favor. logically obito could just warp behind itachi and snatch him away. But base upon obito's previous fights he tends to just phase through everything till he comes close to his target then warp him. but knowing itachi's intellect and reaction timing; by the time obito gets that close he'd figured out a strategy how to defensively counter him after 1-2 failed attempt jutsus.
If itachi tried to cqc obito, he'll inevitably lose since he lacks an out to kamui unlike minato. (thou, KG said susanoo could work) however, base upon itachi's previous fights. he'd likely use a clone or long range tech asap. so unless obito dodges it (which I doubt) he'll phase through it, which will instantly start giving intel to itachi's quick thinking. at this point. all itachi would have to do is use clones to test the water. (kamui intel) then once he figured out a strategy, he'll likely use feints such as clone explosion or crow spawn to leave obito vulnerable the moment obito solidifies to grab itachi, then itachi quickly strikes with susanoo punch/karate chop. worst case scenerio, if obito is in itachi's LoS and is ready to solidify in order to grab him if amaterasu is fast enough. it'll force obito to go back or stay in ghost mode thus sparing itachi and giving him more intel. it's the similar situation danzo's guards baited obito.
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tl:dr
The longer the fight goes on, the faster and more likely itachi will win.
Agreed with most except a longer fight being in Itachi's favor. Stamina is his weakness (this is alive itachi mind you ), while obito has hashiramas dna, he'd have no problem with a prolonged fight.
Edit: even though he is up against an Uchiha, I still think genjutsu is Itachi's best shot, not for paralyzing like with orochimaru, but just for stunning long enough to land a hit. Susano is probably useless,so if I were itachi I'd go for 3-4 kage bunshins simultaneously using the shuriken tech, letting obito think he can win and land a hit, then a genjutsu in the midst of all that to slow him down for a counter attack.
Agreed with most except a longer fight being in Itachi's favor. Stamina is his weakness (this is alive itachi mind you ), while obito has hashiramas dna, he'd have no problem with a prolonged fight.
Edit: even though he is up against an Uchiha, I still think genjutsu is Itachi's best shot, not for paralyzing like with orochimaru, but just for stunning long enough to land a hit. Susano is probably useless,so if I were itachi I'd go for 3-4 kage bunshins simultaneously using the shuriken tech, letting obito think he can win and land a hit, then a genjutsu in the midst of all that to slow him down for a counter attack.
lol damn, forgot about stamina. luckily he's uchiha, so if itachi holds back from using tsukuyomi and stage 3-4 susanoo he should have enough potency to use few amats, clones and Fire releases. I try my best to not rely on genjutsu or yata since alot of people downplay it, so I don't even bother including it except in situational battles like killer B. as for susanoo, I think @Kidgamer. said or atleast I think he said, he could activate susanoo the moment obito solidifies to grab itachi, it'll push back or force obito to go intangible. can't remember if he said kamui can or can't go inside someone avatar (susanoo) since it's sasuke's chakra. or something like that.
Obito will always wins a battle between any Ms user due to kamui. Itachi will be forced to use his MS. In other words his stamina and chakra will be constantly depleting while Obito trolls him.
Without intel, Obito has the advantage in the beginning of the fight, but as the fight goes on the advantage will quickly turn into itachi's favor. logically obito could just warp behind itachi and snatch him away. But base upon obito's previous fights he tends to just phase through everything till he comes close to his target then warp him. but knowing itachi's intellect and reaction timing; by the time obito gets that close he'd figured out a strategy how to defensively counter him after 1-2 failed attempt jutsus.
If itachi tried to cqc obito, he'll inevitably lose since he lacks an out to kamui unlike minato. (thou, KG said susanoo could work) however, base upon itachi's previous fights. he'd likely use a clone or long range tech asap. so unless obito dodges it (which I doubt) he'll phase through it, which will instantly start giving intel to itachi's quick thinking. at this point. all itachi would have to do is use clones to test the water. (kamui intel) then once he figured out a strategy, he'll likely use feints such as clone explosion or crow spawn to leave obito vulnerable the moment obito solidifies to grab itachi, then itachi quickly strikes with susanoo punch/karate chop. worst case scenerio, if obito is in itachi's LoS and is ready to solidify in order to grab him if amaterasu is fast enough. it'll force obito to go back or stay in ghost mode thus sparing itachi and giving him more intel. it's the similar situation danzo's guards baited obito.
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tl:dr
The longer the fight goes on, the faster and more likely itachi will win.
This strategy only works if Obito decides to warp Itachi. To prevent a warp Itachi would either have to use V2 Susanoo or he'd have to use clones. He can't use both at the same time. If he's using clones Obito doesn't need warps to take him out. If he's not using Susanoo period he doesn't need warping to take him out as his offense is more than enough if it can land. (Giant Katon, Giant Kunai and Giant Shuriken).
This battle would basically be Obito wearing Itachi down until Susanoo becomes a non factor, then he wipes out his clones with Shuriken, Kunai and Katon and then kills Itachi himself.
What is Itachi means to stop himself from being warped? Obito warping speed has shown to be superior than Danzo striking speed. Itachi using Susanoo isn't going to help when Obito slips right through it.
lol damn, forgot about stamina. luckily he's uchiha, so if itachi holds back from using tsukuyomi and stage 3-4 susanoo he should have enough potency to use few amats, clones and Fire releases. I try my best to not rely on genjutsu or yata since alot of people downplay it, so I don't even bother including it except in situational battles like killer B. as for susanoo, I think @Kidgamer. said or atleast I think he said, he could activate susanoo the moment obito solidifies to grab itachi, it'll push back or force obito to go intangible. can't remember if he said kamui can or can't go inside someone avatar (susanoo) since it's sasuke's chakra. or something like that.
This strategy only works if Obito decides to warp Itachi. To prevent a warp Itachi would either have to use V2 Susanoo or he'd have to use clones. He can't use both at the same time. If he's using clones Obito doesn't need warps to take him out. If he's not using Susanoo period he doesn't need warping to take him out as his offense is more than enough if it can land. (Giant Katon, Giant Kunai and Giant Shuriken).
This battle would basically be Obito wearing Itachi down until Susanoo becomes a non factor, then he wipes out his clones with Shuriken, Kunai and Katon and then kills Itachi himself.
Fuu and torune hardly had any firepower yet Obito canonicaly tried to warp them. Safe to assume he'll try to do the same here. Also he won't have katon if he's wearing his mask (but w.e). Giant shuriken is a strong attack, but it doesn't have the same radius as itachi's shuriken techs that strike multiple targets, or conceivably attacks one target (obito) from multiple directions.
Also, don't remember if it was itachi or sasuke but one of them used rigged shuriken, sth that's ideal to counter attack obito's phasing.
It's a long shot, but if itachi can figure out what minato did he can feint with a clone(one that fools obito into thinking it's him) and hit him with totsuka during obito's attempted warping.
This strategy only works if Obito decides to warp Itachi. To prevent a warp Itachi would either have to use V2 Susanoo or he'd have to use clones. He can't use both at the same time. If he's using clones Obito doesn't need warps to take him out. If he's not using Susanoo period he doesn't need warping to take him out as his offense is more than enough if it can land. (Giant Katon, Giant Kunai and Giant Shuriken).
This battle would basically be Obito wearing Itachi down until Susanoo becomes a non factor, then he wipes out his clones with Shuriken, Kunai and Katon and then kills Itachi himself.
Lol yeah I strictly stayed focus on tobi rather than obito cause i had no idea who would win with the convenient offensive tech obito decides to finally use( Didn't he also have shadow clone? )So could itachi defeat the kamui only tobi?
What is Itachi means to stop himself from being warped? Obito warping speed has shown to be superior than Danzo striking speed. Itachi using Susanoo isn't going to help when Obito slips right through it.
Kamui takes longer to warp objects, are you saying amat, explosive clone and susanoo activation not fast enough to intercept the solid obito?
Explosive clone is great because say obito grabbed the wrong itachi or is force to deal with it first, the moment obito tries to grab it or does grab it. The clone explodes
And yes, his speed to use and switch with clones is very fast.
