EMS Madara's PS vs Kurama

[NarutoX28]

No, he wasn't correct, though your bias makes you incapable of understanding much of anything.
Under no circumstance would you be able to claim something so ridiculous and the example he used to support it had no bearing with the idea that he was trying to prove.

It's rather dishonest to attempt to ridicule someone without posting the context of his statement.

 

[TheSages456]

It's rather dishonest to attempt to ridicule someone without posting the context of his statement.

There's a line limit for sigs and his claim is the context of his statement. What you're suggesting for is the details he used to support it.

He said that one could claim that people are as big as Biju since nothing is drawn to scale. He then posted a scan of Onoki under Madara's meteor with the mountains far in the background and used this to say that Onoki would be the size of Kurama's head based on how big he was compared to the mountains in the background.
That isn't a size inconsistency nor does it even constitute as evidence for his claim. That is perspective and nothing more, unlike the scan of Shinsuusenju and Kurama.

If I could fit the entire statement in my sig, it would look 100 times more idiotic.

 

[Waltz]

...And..Mind you, Its wrong for me to cut Onooki out of the original scan and post him in another scan to show that the scale of Kishimotos drawings aren't consistent yet hes cutting and pasting and resizing portions of scan segments completely disregarding the angle of the image it's being pasted onto and scale inconsistencies as well as the inaccuracies brought forward by paint.exe and thinks he's correct because he resized it to compliment another scan of the kyuubi being in SS's palm. Then he says its perspective :lol I'm just glad he maintained the Cambria font in the sig ;p​

 

[Warlocks]

madara he himself said ps = bijuu

so no 1 wins

 

[sixpaths15]

madara's ps would beat the phuck out kurama mid diff at most.

 

[Lord Tywin]

I'm going to need some feats of Kurama doing that.

Madara said his La rivaled the bijuu. Bijuus 1-8 are clearly out of the question, so he was referring to Kurama.
The. We have the very first statement made in the manga, giving Kurama the ability to smash mountains with his tails.
The we have Sasuke vs Naruro fight. Sasuke's PS is obviously stronger than Madara's, and Rikudo enhanced half kurama is >non enhanced full Kurama.
By statement, Kurama's tails are =Madara's PS slash. But it should have greater durability, given it's ability to resist juubi's laser, which destroyed a mountain range.
We also have BSM Naruto and CM Susanoo being equal in striking power.

 

[BLAZE]

There's a line limit for sigs and his claim is the context of his statement.

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[Booker]

Madara said his La rivaled the bijuu. Bijuus 1-8 are clearly out of the question, so he was referring to Kurama.
The. We have the very first statement made in the manga, giving Kurama the ability to smash mountains with his tails.
The we have Sasuke vs Naruro fight. Sasuke's PS is obviously stronger than Madara's, and Rikudo enhanced half kurama is >non enhanced full Kurama.
By statement, Kurama's tails are =Madara's PS slash. But it should have greater durability, given it's ability to resist juubi's laser, which destroyed a mountain range.
We also have BSM Naruto and CM Susanoo being equal in striking power.

You cannot compare the feats of a Jinchuriki Chakra Avatar of Kurama to the actual Kurama. Kurama is made of flesh and bone, the 9-Tail twins (forgot their names) were able to eat his flesh. I still see no reason why Madara's sword wouldn't go right through Kurama.

 

[Holy God]

Madara said Perfect Susano'o is the equivalent of a Tailed Beast. They're equal.

 

[Lord Tywin]

You cannot compare the feats of a Jinchuriki Chakra Avatar of Kurama to the actual Kurama. Kurama is made of flesh and bone, the 9-Tail twins (forgot their names) were able to eat his flesh. I still see no reason why Madara's sword wouldn't go right through Kurama.

The gold and silver brothers were inside his stomach.
And it doesn't matter Naruto's avatar is just chakra. The durability doesn't increase or decrease. It applies to a physical kurama too

 

[Booker]

The gold and silver brothers were inside his stomach.
And it doesn't matter Naruto's avatar is just chakra. The durability doesn't increase or decrease. It applies to a physical kurama too

So?

Based off what? Because you want it to? No, the durability feats of an Avatar do not apply to Kurama himself. Kurama is not a chakra avatar. This is a terrible argument, it's like saying Madara can tank whatever PS tanks because PS is Madara's chakra.

 

[Lord Tywin]

So?

Based off what? Because you want it to? No, the durability feats of an Avatar do not apply to Kurama himself. Kurama is not a chakra avatar. This is a terrible argument, it's like saying Madara can tank whatever PS tanks because PS is Madara's chakra.

Organs are less durable than outer body...

Kurama is literally a chakra monster. The avatar Naruto uses is chakra in a fluid form. The same chakra retains its strength and becomes solid, which is the full kyuubi. If anything, full kyuubi's body should be stronger, since it's solid chakra.

 

[Booker]

Organs are less durable than outer body...

Kurama is literally a chakra monster. The avatar Naruto uses is chakra in a fluid form. The same chakra retains its strength and becomes solid, which is the full kyuubi. If anything, full kyuubi's body should be stronger, since it's solid chakra.

Not true. Kurama is a living being. Hence, as you pointed out, why he has organs. Comparing an Avatar made of the Chakra of the Nine-Tails is not the same as the Nine-Tails himself.

Again, refer to my example with Madara and PS.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Not true. Kurama is a living being. Hence, as you pointed out, why he has organs. Comparing an Avatar made of the Chakra of the Nine-Tails is not the same as the Nine-Tails himself.

Again, refer to my example with Madara and PS.

i never said he wasn't a living being. and it doesn't change a thing. He's entirely made of chakra, and that chakra is shaped to look like a fox. He has organs, and organs are less durable than outer body. Hence why I mentioned gin/Kim's ability to eat its flesh.
Madara point makes no sense. Madara bring out his chakra to form susanoo. Kurama is the chakra in both instances. One form is less solid than the other.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Not true. Kurama is a living being. Hence, as you pointed out, why he has organs. Comparing an Avatar made of the Chakra of the Nine-Tails is not the same as the Nine-Tails himself.

Again, refer to my example with Madara and PS.

Booker what was your old username?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Kurama would be able to withstand any attack that Perfect Susano'o can dish out. The fight would basically be like Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o vs Naruto's avatar except the battle would be less refined.

Madara would win based on portrayal.

how does portrayal help PS

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[KidGamer65]

Kurama fires 11 Bijuu Dama and PS goes bye bye.

 

[LightningNinja]

Kurama fires 11 Bijuu Dama and PS goes bye bye.

It took 11 Bijuu Dama + PS blades and Choujou Kebutsu to destroy half of PS, How 11 Bijuu Dama alone going to destroy it?
Also, what prevents from PS to counter the Bijuu Dama with his swords shock waves? Madara won't just stand there.
last thing, What do you think that will happen if Madara will close the distance and will enter to a cqc battle with kurama?

 

[KidGamer65]

It took 11 Bijuu Dama + PS blades and Choujou Kebutsu to destroy half of PS, How 11 Bijuu Dama alone going to destroy it?
Also, what prevents from PS to counter the Bijuu Dama with his swords shock waves? Madara won't just stand there.
last thing, What do you think that will happen if Madara will close the distance and will enter to a cqc battle with kurama?

It was damaged to the point where it couldn't be maintained, and those BD didn't hit him directly. It'll probably take another wave of BD after the 11 though to finish off Susanoo.

And how do the shockwaves from the sword counter Bijuu Dama? At best it'd cause them to explode which is counter intuitive.

Though actually, if Madara enters CQC and Kurama uses those nukes then PS would protect Madara but Kurama would probably be too injured to continue. So I'll say Madara wins.

 

[Booker]

i never said he wasn't a living being. and it doesn't change a thing. He's entirely made of chakra, and that chakra is shaped to look like a fox. He has organs, and organs are less durable than outer body. Hence why I mentioned gin/Kim's ability to eat its flesh.
Madara point makes no sense. Madara bring out his chakra to form susanoo. Kurama is the chakra in both instances. One form is less solid than the other.

Chakra doesn't need organs to live. Kurama in his full form is entirely made of chakra, but that doesn't mean he isn't also flesh and bone.

The example is fine, as the Jin Avatar is using Kurama's chakra to form a fluid and mallueable avatar. Unless you'd like to suggest that Kurama in his full form is able to stretch his limbs?

Booker what was your old username?

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