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6 gate Lee vs hebi Sasuke

Conditions: Lee starts in 6 gates and can maintain gates for 8 minutes. Sasuke starts in CS2.

Restrictions: summonings and genjutsu

Location: Sasuke vs Deidara

Distance: 30 meters
 

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6G Gai>>GG Lee first of all just how Base Gai>>Base Lee. Let's get that out of the way. Lee isn't fast enough to blitz Sasuke. Asa Kujaku can be blocked by CS2's wings and the vast majority of Lee's physical strikes. Sasuke also has Chidori Nagashi, Chidori Katana (Lee can't clash with him even if someone wants to bring that Lee uses a Kunai argument here :lol), so in CQC Sasuke has the advantage here. Lee doesn't have the speed like Gai does to clash with someone of Sasuke's own speed and caliber in Kenjutsu, while unarmed, especially against a weapon you can't clash against.

Sasuke takes Lee out. Worst case scenario he outlasts the 6th Gate and kills 5th Gate Lee with no effort.
 
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6G Gai>>GG Lee first of all just how Base Gai>>Base Lee. Let's get that out of the way. Lee isn't fast enough to blitz Sasuke. Asa Kujaku can be blocked by CS2's wings and the vast majority of Lee's physical strikes. Sasuke also has Chidori Nagashi, Chidori Katana (Lee can't clash with him even if someone wants to bring that Lee uses a Kunai argument here :lol), so in CQC Sasuke has the advantage here. Lee doesn't have the speed like Gai does to clash with someone of Sasuke's own speed and caliber in Kenjutsu, while unarmed, especially against a weapon you can't clash against.

Sasuke takes Lee out. Worst case scenario he outlasts the 6th Gate and kills 5th Gate Lee with no effort.

I haven't read/watched the series in some time, but exactly are you basing this off of? When has Gai shown superior speed feats at base?
 

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It was established early on the Sasuke has no issues keeping up with Lee in base speed.

Sharingan supplements Sasuke's lack of speed against a Gated Lee, and I'm not even entirely convinced that Lee would be faster in Gates than base Hebi Sasuke.

Sasuke wins mid-diff at best for Lee.
 

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I haven't read/watched the series in some time, but exactly are you basing this off of? When has Gai shown superior speed feats at base?

Well first of all, Base Gai was stated to be faster than Kakashi back in Part 1. Lee has displayed no speed of that level in Base alone. Second of all Gai has a 5 in all physical stats while Lee has 4.5s in strength and speed.

Gai can clash w/ Kisame despite being unarmed. Lee has received no hype nor has he shown any kind of speed feat on that level.
 

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It was established early on the Sasuke has no issues keeping up with Lee in base speed.

Sharingan supplements Sasuke's lack of speed against a Gated Lee, and I'm not even entirely convinced that Lee would be faster in Gates than base Hebi Sasuke.

Sasuke wins mid-diff at best for Lee.
Whoa hold up I wouldn't go as far as to say base hebi Sasuke is faster than gated Lee but I do agree that he wins
 

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Whoa hold up I wouldn't go as far as to say base hebi Sasuke is faster than gated Lee but I do agree that he wins

I would. What Part 2 feats does Lee have with Gates? I honesty have no clue.
 

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Well I'm not interested in this guys theory but I guess this can give you somewhat of an idea how fast Madara's tsb is
 

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Well first of all, Base Gai was stated to be faster than Kakashi back in Part 1. Lee has displayed no speed of that level in Base alone. Second of all Gai has a 5 in all physical stats while Lee has 4.5s in strength and speed.

Gai can clash w/ Kisame despite being unarmed. Lee has received no hype nor has he shown any kind of speed feat on that level.

So, this is based off hype and the unreliable databook, No actual comparable feats? Ok
 

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So, this is based off hype and the unreliable databook, No actual comparable feats? Ok

The databook cited things that actually happened in the Manga. Not to mention the databook isn't unreliable. Only to people who have no idea what they are talking about when they cite it.
 
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The databook cited things that actually happened in the Manga. Not to mention the databook isn't unreliable. Only to people who have no idea what they are talking about when they cite it.

is the stat side of the databook somewhat reliable?
 
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is the stat side of the databook somewhat reliable?

As long as you know that it doesn't take enhancements and Ninjutsu (unless it's the Ninjutsu stat) into account, that an equal score doesn't mean two people are equal in that field and that it doesn't cover anything past chapter 402 it's more reliable than most things.
 

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The databook cited things that actually happened in the Manga you clown. Not to mention the databook isn't unreliable. Only to people who have no idea what they are talking about when they cite it. :lol But I can't say I didn't expect an asinine response from an asinine poster such as yourself. :lol

You're referring to the databook, which you claim cites all things that have happen in the manga, which is false.. Databook is inconsistent on many accounts.

Mentioning databook stats? Really? Lol
 
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You're referring to the databook, which you claim cites all things that have happen in the manga, which is false.. Databook is inconsistent on many accounts.

Mentioning databook stats? Really? Lol

-DB talks about Gai's reflexes, cites him battling Kisame without a weapon on his own and says it's because he's fast. Last time I checked that actually happened in the Manga you moronic twit.
-Manga states that Gai is faster than someone who is faster than Lee.
-DB rates him higher.

Your only response is "lol DB incosistent" even though when it comes to stats and events that actually happened in the Manga they aren't. You can't even show me any inconsistency strong enough to warrant the DB unusable.
 
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If Lee is able to use Asakujaku, which are literally punches so fast they ignite the air (which means it's hot as f*ck), I don't see CS2 tanking. Plus, there's no way 6 gated Lee is not as fast or faster than Hebi Sasuke.

Lee has literally the exact training methods as Gai, so although I wouldn't say he's as fast as Gai since he is more unexperienced, I'd say it's reasonable to say a 6 Gated Lee is PRETTY DARN FAST.
 

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If Lee is able to use Asakujaku, which are literally punches so fast they ignite the air (which means it's hot as f*ck), I don't see CS2 tanking.

doubt that [ ][ ]
 

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doubt that [ ][ ]

Good point, but a point blank Asakujaku (arguably hotter than Fireball) would not be tanked. The force of the punches plus the heat would be too much.
 
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