Hebi Sasuke vs Kimmimaro

[ChocolateVanilla]

Location: Rock Lee vs Kimmimaro

Intel: Manga

Distance: 50 m

Intent: Kill

Restrictions: Summons, Kirin.

Kimmimaro is healthy.

Scenario 2: CS2 is restricted for Sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke stomps if you read the Manga properly.

 

[DrProof]

This fight isn't as one-sided as the majority might think. Especially with the exclusion of Snake Summonings, and Kirin (though, he wouldn't get the chance to prep such). There's still the argument of Genjutsu, though that is broken via CM transitioning. Then there's the argument of speed, which is countered due to Kimimaro's KKG, being able to sprout bones from every portion of his body's exterior.

Then there's the argument of Sharingan precog, which is bypassed by Kimimaro's unorthodox fighting style (same way Bee fooled Sasuke's Sharingan with his fighting style). Then it comes down to Chidori Spear... If Sasuke goes into CQC then just uses Chidori Spear in close proximity somewhere fatal eg; cutting off Kimimaro's head, or piercing his heart, Kimimaro will die.

I give it to Hebi Sasuke majority vote. Though, Kimimaro has his chances. Don't sleep on him.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kimimaro has the experience and capabilities needed to fight and even overwhelm Hebi Sasuke in CQC, but he's outclassed when we take into consideration of Sharingan Genjutsu and the fact that CS2 merely slows down Kimimaro and hinders his Taijutsu ability.

 

[ToshiZO]

I'm gonna go ahead and sleep on Kimimaro cause thats what Kishi did.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

I forgot to handicap CS2 for Sasuke, but I'll add another scenario.

 

[NarutoX28]

This fight isn't as one-sided as the majority might think. Especially with the exclusion of Snake Summonings, and Kirin (though, he wouldn't get the chance to prep such). There's still the argument of Genjutsu, though that is broken via CM transitioning. Then there's the argument of speed, which is countered due to Kimimaro's KKG, being able to sprout bones from every portion of his body's exterior.

Then there's the argument of Sharingan precog, which is bypassed by Kimimaro's unorthodox fighting style (same way Bee fooled Sasuke's Sharingan with his fighting style). Then it comes down to Chidori Spear... If Sasuke goes into CQC then just uses Chidori Spear in close proximity somewhere fatal eg; cutting off Kimimaro's head, or piercing his heart, Kimimaro will die.

I give it to Hebi Sasuke majority vote. Though, Kimimaro has his chances. Don't sleep on him.

Please give this guy a cookie, he knows what he's talking about.

 

[DrProof]

I'm gonna go ahead and sleep on Kimimaro cause thats what Kishi did.

Deadass.

Please give this guy a cookie, he knows what he's talking about.

I used to fw Kimimaro heavy, I know a lot about dude. But I also know how broken Hebi Sasuke is.

 

[Icelerate]

What does fw mean?

Anyway I'm going to go with Sasuke low-mid difficulty. He hard counters Kimi and is overall stronger as well.

 

[NarutoX28]

I think a Taijutsu battle would be more interesting to be honest. Dealing with Taijutsu Masters such as Kimimaro with Shunshin + Linear Attacks which is Hebi Sasuke's primary focus isn't necessarily effective, but people tend to think so.

 

[DrProof]

What does fw mean?

Anyway I'm going to go with Sasuke low-mid difficulty. He hard counters Kimi and is overall stronger as well.

Sasuke in no way, hard counters Kimimaro. Literally, the only thing going for Sasuke excluding Summonings is Chidori Spear, and even then I'd imagine Kimimaro being fast enough to dodge a fatal assault (though this being manga knowledge, the burden of no knowledge screws him here). If this were full knowledge, Kimimaro would be able to dodge Chidori Spear from causing a fatal wound, passively regenerating thanks to his KKG, and continuing the fight.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

What does fw mean?

F*cks with

 

[NarutoX28]

Sasuke in no way, hard counters Kimimaro. Literally, the only thing going for Sasuke excluding Summonings is Chidori Spear, and even then I'd imagine Kimimaro being fast enough to dodge a fatal assault (though this being manga knowledge, the burden of no knowledge screws him here). If this were full knowledge, Kimimaro would be able to dodge Chidori Spear from causing a fatal wound, passively regenerating thanks to his KKG, and continuing the fight.

I'm doubtful of Chidori Spear tagging Kimimaro considering it's a linear attack designed for surprise attacks. There's practically no emphasis on its speed and even Orochimaru reacted to the attack while on his death-bed even when he was completely off-guard.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Sasuke extremely low diff

 

[DrProof]

I'm doubtful of Chidori Spear tagging Kimimaro considering it's a linear attack designed for surprise attacks. There's practically no emphasis on its speed and even Orochimaru reacted to the attack while on his death-bed even when he was completely off-guard.

Yeah, but that wasn't in close proximity. In Close Range, Kimimaro would have no time to counter the attack, unless prematurely notified on the technique.

 

[NarutoX28]

Yeah, but that wasn't in close proximity. In Close Range, Kimimaro would have no time to counter the attack, unless prematurely notified on the technique.

That's true, but I don't believe the technique is quick enough to tag Kimimaro. That attack is only designed for surprise attacks which gave me the implication that it's not quick enough to use in close-mid range combat and it's targeted in such a linear fashion that I can't see Kimimaro being tagged by the hit.

 

[DrProof]

That's true, but I don't believe the technique is quick enough to tag Kimimaro. That attack is only designed for surprise attacks which gave me the implication that it's not quick enough to use in close-mid range combat and it's targeted in such a linear fashion that I can't see Kimimaro being tagged by the hit.

Contradictory fam. The point of a Hebi Sasuke going into close proximity (when I say close range, I mean literally hand to hand range), is to use Chidori Spear. At that range it is nearly impossible to dodge, Kimimaro is indeed speedy, and has quite the finesse to dodge it from mid range, and close range (if not in CQC). It'd be something like this:

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Kimimaro's Bones = Gaara's Sand Sphere's spikes.

Sasuke would merely need to dodge Kimimaro for couple of seconds, before being overwhelmed similar to how he performed vs Killer B, then use Chidori Spear to end it.

 

[Eng nawashi]

CS2 merely slows down Kimimaro and hinders his Taijutsu ability.

For the same readon CM2 should slow Sasuke down as well,whatever this reason is .I guess it is the growth of extra giant limps .

 

[BLAZE]

There's still the argument of Genjutsu, though that is broken via CM transitioning.

huh what

 

[DrProof]

huh what

Genjutsu can be broken through interruption of an external chakra. The curse mark counts as an external source of chakra due to it not being of the same genetic makeup as its host. Genjutsu affects the user's active chakra wavelengths, not the inactive.