Sage/Fox integration.

[Honord Sage]

In Manga it says the second haft is sealed in Minato who is sealed in The Dead god. Haft a Fox is more than any other creature out their. Naruto has large chakra reserve more than anybody. And Naruto has Unlimited Natural Energy He can tap on from Nature. So if Naruto combines all 3 chakras into one equally divided and control it might be more than the Fox had before it was divided and sealed away by Minato into Himself and Naruto. We will have to wait till Naruto starts training.

 

[Qcks]

Actually... according to chapter 503, Minato sealed half of the fox using the Dead demon seal, however, he used an 8 trigrams seal to seal Kushina and the other half of the fox.
So... Naruto does contain the entiriety of the fox's chakra, but it's contained within 2 seperate seal systems on his body.
This actually coincides nicely with what we've been shown of the seals on Naruto's body. The main seal on Naruto's stomach is the eight trigrams seal and the seal on Naruto's hand is the key to dead demon seal.
The Eight trigrams seal is the amount that allows a small trickle of the Fox's power to come out, but it also allowed a small amount of Kushina's chakra to trickle out as well.

 

[Honord Sage]

Original sealed is now gone, Naruto now has The SO6P Seal on Him I ones theories that the Frog Scroll could be holding the second haft of the chakra. If Naruto has all The Fox Chakra that great, But personally I think Naruto will integrate all 3 Chakras into one Naruto's own, Sage and Fox. In normal chakra you have physical and spiritual energy, in Sage you mix Physical,Spiritual,with Natural energy a 3 way split. By adding the Fox it would balance out to 4 way. I think that would be more power than anybody else and the skills that it would bring.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Original sealed is now gone, Naruto now has The SO6P Seal on Him I ones theories that the Frog Scroll could be holding the second haft of the chakra. If Naruto has all The Fox Chakra that great, But personally I think Naruto will integrate all 3 Chakras into one Naruto's own, Sage and Fox. In normal chakra you have physical and spiritual energy, in Sage you mix Physical,Spiritual,with Natural energy a 3 way split. By adding the Fox it would balance out to 4 way. I think that would be more power than anybody else and the skills that it would bring.

The other half of the Nine-Tails' chakra is sealed within Minato, not in the Frog Scroll. But what's interesting is, if Madara intends to revive the Jubi, then he will need both halves of the fox's chakra to seal into the Demon Sealing Statue, not only the part Naruto has. In order for Madara's Moon's Eye Plan to work, he will need to have recovered Minato's body after his death, and also capture Naruto so both the yin and yang of the Nine-Tails' chakra can be sealed. Maybe that's what he did - perhaps the coming chapter will clarify this issue for us. It's not likely, but still, possible.

 

[Honord Sage]

The other half of the Nine-Tails' chakra is sealed within Minato, not in the Frog Scroll. But what's interesting is, if Madara intends to revive the Jubi, then he will need both halves of the fox's chakra to seal into the Demon Sealing Statue, not only the part Naruto has. In order for Madara's Moon's Eye Plan to work, he will need to have recovered Minato's body after his death, and also capture Naruto so both the yin and yang of the Nine-Tails' chakra can be sealed. Maybe that's what he did - perhaps the coming chapter will clarify this issue for us. It's not likely, but still, possible.

Yes maybe next chapter could shed some light. But Madara is in for a surprise Naruto now has the Seal of The SO6P, Madara may not be able to open such a seal its before His time. When He attacked Minato and Kushina He was only dealing with the Uzumaki seal. Now He has to deal with the SO6P Seal and its in a different league of its own.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Yes maybe next chapter could shed some light. But Madara is in for a surprise Naruto now has the Seal of The SO6P, Madara may not be able to open such a seal its before His time. When He attacked Minato and Kushina He was only dealing with the Uzumaki seal. Now He has to deal with the SO6P Seal and its in a different league of its own.

That is true. But considering Madara has extensive knowledge on the Sage of the Six Paths, he might know how to get around the seal. It seems that Madara knows everything, revealing information through careful observation or experience, such as Kushina's seal, which he deduced contained some of Minato's markings that would alert Minato to Kushina's situation if she was in danger.

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What strategy Madara has to circumvent the Sage of the Six Paths' seal, will be a surprise to all. Even if he has none, at least he will be able to reveal some information that can start some new debates on these forums. A lot of these arguments on this website have been over things Madara has said, such as being able to "see" the First Hokage in Naruto, which everyone interpreted as proof of Naruto's Senju descent. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Honord Sage]

I know, when it reality Madara was tacking about the Will of Fire a Senju Philosophy that Madara keep butting heads over the Fist Hokage and that contradicts The Uchiha Philosophy of Force as the Peace keeper, That Madara espouse out load to all.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

I know, when it reality Madara was tacking about the Will of Fire a Senju Philosophy that Madara keep butting heads over the Fist Hokage and that contradicts The Uchiha Philosophy of Force as the Peace keeper, That Madara espouse out load to all.

I completely agree with you. When Naruto and Sasuke fought at the Valley of the End, Kakashi noted that their lives were remarkably similar to those of Hashirama and Madara's.

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Now that similarity has amplified to such an extent they are mirrors of these two men that once fought here, with Hashirama being the victor in the end.

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

I know, when it reality Madara was tacking about the Will of Fire a Senju Philosophy that Madara keep butting heads over the Fist Hokage and that contradicts The Uchiha Philosophy of Force as the Peace keeper, That Madara espouse out load to all.

Who is the Fist Hokage and what does espouse mean.-ROFLMAO

Also weren't you one of the ones saying that naruto is not senju. Now there is a contradiction for ya

 

[Honord Sage]

Who is the Fist Hokage and what does espouse mean.-ROFLMAO

Also weren't you one of the ones saying that naruto is not senju. Now there is a contradiction for ya

Philosophy and Blood are two different things Naruto is not a Senju is true, Naruto dose believe in the Senju Philosophy that Love can bring peace and understanding. Madara believes in the use of force against anything kill it before it becomes a problem. What people here keep confusing is Philosophy with Bloodlines. They have eyes and ears yet they do not see or hear, they react to a word here and their without the full context. And Espouse is to accept
, Support a certain position or believe it came to The English language from the French.

 

[Honord Sage]

Funny how people see contradiction when their non, must be something they drank.

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

Philosophy and Blood are two different things Naruto is not a Senju is true, Naruto dose believe in the Senju Philosophy that Love can bring peace and understanding. Madara believes in the use of force against anything kill it before it becomes a problem. What people here keep confusing is Philosophy with Bloodlines. They have eyes and ears yet they do not see or hear, they react to a word here and their without the full context. And Espouse is to accept
, Support a certain position or believe it came to The English language from the French.

You are sort of correct I do react to words of yours but if it is out of context it is because you have no sense of proper grammar. Hell it doesn't even have to be proper I just wanna understand anything you say and can't and I am pretty sure I am not the only one. And you contradicted yourself in that previous statement again Madara is not killing everyone he sees as a threat if this were true then he would have killed Kakashi and Sakura when Naruto was talking to Sasuke, also he has obviously demonstrated the power to own Naruto and capture him but hasn't he doesn't care about that Uchiha BS anymore that's one of the reasons he destroyed the Uchiha with Itachi. He wants to control the ninja world not destroy it.


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Peace

 

[Honord Sage]

You are sort of correct I do react to words of yours but if it is out of context it is because you have no sense of proper grammar. Hell it doesn't even have to be proper I just wanna understand anything you say and can't and I am pretty sure I am not the only one. And you contradicted yourself in that previous statement again Madara is not killing everyone he sees as a threat if this were true then he would have killed Kakashi and Sakura when Naruto was talking to Sasuke, also he has obviously demonstrated the power to own Naruto and capture him but hasn't he doesn't care about that Uchiha BS anymore that's one of the reasons he destroyed the Uchiha with Itachi. He wants to control the ninja world not destroy it.


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Peace

No contradiction you just do not know your predicates, your subject or middle terms, your inferences and assumptions are base on fatly thinking. I was train Logic, Aristotle the Father of logic. In all arguments you must have a subject and a predicate, what can united or separated a statement that is your middle term. And my college professors Never complain about my grammar in any language. I Majored in Philosophy and Political Science. English is my second language, Spanish my first. I speck, write, and read In the following Languages, Spanish,English,Latin, Greek (Ancient and Modern) French and Portuguese. I wroth my Thesis in Latin.
Again in Madara you are the one not thinking. I said Madara's philosophy is to use force on what they perceived to be a problem, before it gets out of hand. Both Madara and Sasuke are drunk with their powers, believing that no matter what it will get them what ever they want, when they want it. But They're going to be surprise at the changes that are coming.

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

No contradiction you just do not know your predicates, your subject or middle terms, your inferences and assumptions are base on fatly thinking. I was train Logic, Aristotle the Father of logic. In all arguments you must have a subject and a predicate, what can united or separated a statement that is your middle term. And my college professors Never complain about my grammar in any language. I Majored in Philosophy and Political Science. English is my second language, Spanish my first. I speck, write, and read In the following Languages, Spanish,English,Latin, Greek (Ancient and Modern) French and Portuguese. I wroth my Thesis in Latin.
Again in Madara you are the one not thinking. I said Madara's philosophy is to use force on what they perceived to be a problem, before it gets out of hand. Both Madara and Sasuke are drunk with their powers, believing that no matter what it will get them what ever they want, when they want it. But They're going to be surprise at the changes that are coming.

look I don't care what make up degrees or languages you pretend to know!! I still have alot of trouble understanding most of your arguments because they are a) hard to read. b)make no sense and are based on your own fanfic not the manga.

 

[Honord Sage]

look I don't care what make up degrees or languages you pretend to know!! I still have alot of trouble understanding most of your arguments because they are a) hard to read. b)make no sense and are based on your own fanfic not the manga.

My Arguments are base on logic on whats available in Manga, and on inferences on how Kishi is moving the story. How hard is that to understand? Universal and the particular must be analyze to see the relationship to each if their one or not, only then can you extrapolate a possible outcome base on what the Author is thinking.

 

[Scary Yamato]

I think Honord sage's comments closely resemble sasuke, and SSJ3Gotenks resemble madara... Sasuke is the one going around trying to kill people who become a hindurance (Karen, Sakura, Kakashi, Danzo). Madara has a plan and is sticking to it. "Madara" has had multiple opportunities to kill people but hasnt. now the real test will be to see if Naruto's new powers will be enough, which is tough to tell at the mement because of sasuke's ultimate defence/attack (susan-oo... or however you spell it). I'm confident naruto can take out madara but sasuke will be the problem.

That power itachi gave naruto should come in handy soon

 

[Honord Sage]

What Madara perceives to be a trouble is indeed different from Sasuke, that is base on experience on Madara part. If this is the real Madara He has had over 100 years of revising what works and docent work. Sasuke lacks that experience, hatred and pain are ruling His moves. Madara core believe is that force properly apply at the right moment can achieve peace. With Madara concept and will establishing a world word wide peace on His concept of what peace is to Him. The only peace Sasuke seeks at this time is the peace of knowing that all His opponents are dead and Madara is that all opponents are subjugated to His will, or else He will use force to eradicated all opposition.

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

I think Honord sage's comments closely resemble sasuke, and SSJ3Gotenks resemble madara... Sasuke is the one going around trying to kill people who become a hindurance (Karen, Sakura, Kakashi, Danzo). Madara has a plan and is sticking to it. "Madara" has had multiple opportunities to kill people but hasnt. now the real test will be to see if Naruto's new powers will be enough, which is tough to tell at the mement because of sasuke's ultimate defence/attack (susan-oo... or however you spell it). I'm confident naruto can take out madara but sasuke will be the problem.

That power itachi gave naruto should come in handy soon

Thank you this is exactly what I am saying Madara even at his current level could destroy just about anyone he wanted to and taken all of the tailed beasts himself if he really wanted to he is using all of these different people for specific reasons. And he has had way too many chances to kill off main characters and hasn't if he was the way you paint him out to be then he would have killed Kakashi and Yamato just because he is weaker doesn't mean that anyone else is on his level right now not even Sasuke yet or Naruto it is going to take alot to get past his S/T jutsu it was even above the 4th's at least that we know of right now

 

[Honord Sage]

Force is force, if Madara uses the tail beast as He wants it will cast a genjutsu that takes away free will, you will think what Madara wants to think,You will dream what Madara wants you to dream. Peace by force ,You will be Madara Zombies, not much different from Kabuto's corpse. A false Peace. You might as well be dead if you have no free will to use.

 

[~Anubis~]

IT WOULD BE GREAT IF HE CAN COMBINE SAGE AND KYUUBI MODE.MADAR WON'T STAND A CHANCE WITH NARUTOxd