Update: Accurate Power progression between Naruto and Sasuke

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sauke need 8.5 bijuu stalemate with naruto +0.5 kurama:bdpf:

sauke use ct to seal them and steal all bijuu chakra used Ameno but failed to anything to naruto
did u read same manga as us

wow u r acting like naruto already knew every rsm tech and used it against sasuke :|

By pure facts naruto should have low dif sasuke

rina+ems sasuke=rsm naruto+0.5 kurama

rina+ems sasuke+8.5bijuu=rsm naruto+0.5 kurama+ne mangafact:sigar:

What tf are talking about 8.5 & 0.5 like what . Chakra is chakra guy , he only absorbed a lil bit , you acting like Sasuke had them sealed with him the whole battle . All Sasuke did was refill the missing chakra that he used so far so that he can overpower Naruto and he did . All this talk about him having 8.5 bijus is ****ing dumb and it makes you sound like an idiot
 

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Kid Gamer you make absolutely no sense . Sasuke has Susanoo arrows that can most definitely counter Bijuudamas stoop the nonsense
And for the last ****ing time , Naruto does NOT HAVE ASURA AVATAR . Ashura's avatar is only exclusive to him . The only thing Naruto did was create a form similar to that w Kurama's avatar and 2 clones so again IT IS NOT ASHURA's AVATAR

You Sasuke fanboys just keep crawling out of the wood work. Sasuke has no Arrows that counter bijuu Dama. The only thing he has that can counter Bijuu Dama offensively is his Chidori w/ PS. If you want to claim things you better prove it you stupid joke of a poster.

And lmao you retards need to stop crying about terminology. No shit he doesn't have Ashura's actual Avatar. That's just what people call it since it's easier to say that than saying "the avatar that looks like Ashura's but isn't". You act like this changes a thing about your shitty argument. :lol


Again you are an idiot . Sasuke was obv running low on chakra , he knew that both him and Naruto was low on chakra so he knew that if he can find a way to gather a lil more chakra that he can overpower Naruto and he did . Even when Naruto gather all of the Nature energy , Sasukes Indra arrow was still stronger having lighting bolts as the size of kirins dropping from the sky . . When Sasuke obtain that new susanoo Naruto couldn't even touch him dude , he was getting his ass knocked back and forth like it was nothing . And btw the way if he didn't use Bijuu , he woulda still found a way to stalemate Naruto so again stop dickriding

Sasuke showed nothing that'd hint he was running low on chakra, not like it matters anyway, because that doesn't change the fact that a fresh RSM Naruto is stronger than a fresh RG Sasuke w/o Bijuu or w/o Nature Energy.

-Sasuke needs the Bijuu to defeat RSM Naruto at full power.
-Sasuke w/ the Bijuu can only tie RSM Naruto after he's taken in the NE.

Fact. Don't quote me again unless you have something intelligent to say.


And what is the bold based on? Oh wait, it's from your disgusting little wet dreams about a fictional character. Gtfo son. Lmao hilarious how you came into this thread guns blazing because people are telling the truth about your favorite. Pathetic.
 

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Thread got wrecked so fast u would think SM Minato did it , but seeing the way Kidgamer handled this nonsense i'd bump it up to BM Minato..
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You Sasuke fanboys just keep crawling out of the wood work. Sasuke has no Arrows that counter bijuu Dama. The only thing he has that can counter Bijuu Dama offensively is his Chidori w/ PS. If you want to claim things you better prove it you stupid joke of a poster.

And lmao you retards need to stop crying about terminology. No shit he doesn't have Ashura's actual Avatar. That's just what people call it since it's easier to say that than saying "the avatar that looks like Ashura's but isn't". You act like this changes a thing about your shitty argument. :lol




Sasuke showed nothing that'd hint he was running low on chakra, not like it matters anyway, because that doesn't change the fact that a fresh RSM Naruto is stronger than a fresh RG Sasuke w/o Bijuu or w/o Nature Energy.

-Sasuke needs the Bijuu to defeat RSM Naruto at full power.
-Sasuke w/ the Bijuu can only tie RSM Naruto after he's taken in the NE.

Fact. Don't quote me again unless you have something intelligent to say.


And what is the bold based on? Oh wait, it's from your disgusting little wet dreams about a fictional character. Gtfo son. Lmao hilarious how you came into this thread guns blazing because people are telling the truth about your favorite. Pathetic.


Dude if Naruto shot out the Bijuudama , Sasuke would most definitely stalemate it w Susanoo arrow wtf , that was shown already when he obtained his new susanoo and used lightning arrows , Sasuke susanoo can stalemate Naruto Bijuudamas you idiot. .
If they were both fresh then I doubt Sasuke would even need to use the bijus when he can easily walk up and absorb Naruto or even trapped him CT . The mans don't need the Bijuu to beat Naruto . All he ever needed was chakra , he didn't rely on any of their abilities or kkg , he only chakra so again stop . . If he was fresh he would've most likely used that new susanoo off rip seeing that he can use it in the boruto movie , all Sasuke need was chakra b .
 

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I've always said that out of the vote 2 versions of Naruto and Sasuke, Naruto was stronger. Mainly because Sasuke had his rinnegan for 30 minutes, still learning his powers. While Naruto new found powers came with a book guide called COAT.

As Adults, Sasuke is IN NO WAY inferior to Naruto. Sasuke has grew stronger in every category and Naruto hasn't.. Having 'Asura avatar' means absolutely nothing..
 
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You do realize that him gaining more chakra and unlocking new level power forced Naruto to the same right , Kid Gamer . The fact that Naruto used 2 Rasenshurikens , one w Wind release senjutsu enhanced , the other bijudama Rasenshuriken senjutsu enhanced and still got overpowered slightly by Sasukes indras arrow clearly shows you that Sasuke is superior mind you Sasuke was at an elemental disadvantage and still stalemated/overpowered Narutos techniques when they collided . Yeah okay
 
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Mind you Throughtout this whole battle the mans Sasuke still was using chakra to hold off the 9 tailed beasts , the Chibaku tenses and Sakura for 2 whole days bruh . So ofcourse Sasuke needed a lil more chakra if he was gonna fight Naruto
 

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You do realize that him gaining more chakra and unlocking new level power forced Naruto to the same right , Kid Gamer . The fact that Naruto used 2 Rasenshurikens , one w Wind release senjutsu enhanced , the other bijudama Rasenshuriken senjutsu enhanced and still got overpowered slightly by Sasukes indras arrow clearly shows you that Sasuke is superior mind you Sasuke was at an elemental disadvantage and still stalemated/overpowered Narutos techniques when they collided . Yeah okay
How did sasuke's over power narutos? That was never stated or shown lol
 

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Sasuke was actually stronger at vote 2. At full power his eye techniques wouldnt have dried out so easily and then he would have harnessed his bijuu susanoo again and kill naruto
 

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Dude if Naruto shot out the Bijuudama , Sasuke would most definitely stalemate it w Susanoo arrow wtf , that was shown already when he obtained his new susanoo and used lightning arrows , Sasuke susanoo can stalemate Naruto Bijuudamas you idiot. .
If they were both fresh then I doubt Sasuke would even need to use the bijus when he can easily walk up and absorb Naruto or even trapped him CT . The mans don't need the Bijuu to beat Naruto . All he ever needed was chakra , he didn't rely on any of their abilities or kkg , he only chakra so again stop . . If he was fresh he would've most likely used that new susanoo off rip seeing that he can use it in the boruto movie , all Sasuke need was chakra b .

Based on what? Oh wait, nothing. Just your idiotic wank. I want proof. Not shitty assumptions. Sasuke's Chidori Senbon w/ Bijuu PS stalemated Naruto's small BD in Kurama Mode. That's not regular PS nor is that a Susanoo Arrow nor is that him countering a regular sized Bijuu Dama you stupid cluck.

If both were fresh Naruto would whoop his ass as Sasuke can only match Naruto up to a standard Bijuu Dama. Sasuke can't counter anything stronger than that as his strongest move w/o the Bijuu is PS Chidori. Fact. If he could trap Naruto in CT he would've done that instead of failing to accomplish his mission. Where is the proof he can do this anyway? Him trapping the others is proof he can trap a far superior Naruto? :lol You sound stupid as usual.

Bold is based on nothing and is the same idiotic argument I've seen the only guy in this thread who actually agrees with you use. The power of chakra is what changes the strength of Ninjutsu. Sasuke being fresh doesn't change the power of his chakra. Sasuke having the chakra of all 9 Bijuu merged together (Juubi) does increase the power of his Susanoo's chakra which is why it got stronger and changed form. Sasuke's Susanoo looking like it did when he had the Bijuu is irrelevant. Looks are not power. Get that through your heads.

You sound stupid as hell saying that Sasuke can do what he needed the Bijuu to do, but without the Bijuu. Fresh RSM Naruto>Fresh RG Sasuke w/o Bijuu. Fact.

I've always said that out of the vote 2 versions of Naruto and Sasuke, Naruto was stronger. Mainly because Sasuke had his rinnegan for 30 minutes, still learning his powers. While Naruto new found powers came with a book guide called COAT.

As Adults, Sasuke is IN NO WAY inferior to Naruto. Sasuke has grew stronger in every category and Naruto hasn't.. Having 'Asura avatar' means absolutely nothing..

Lmao you Sasuke fanboys need to stop making these stupid ass excuses. It makes you guys look pathetic.

You do realize that him gaining more chakra and unlocking new level power forced Naruto to the same right , Kid Gamer . The fact that Naruto used 2 Rasenshurikens , one w Wind release senjutsu enhanced , the other bijudama Rasenshuriken senjutsu enhanced and still got overpowered slightly by Sasukes indras arrow clearly shows you that Sasuke is superior mind you Sasuke was at an elemental disadvantage and still stalemated/overpowered Narutos techniques when they collided . Yeah okay

No, it means that Sasuke w/ Bijuu equals Naruto w/ NE as the Manga shows. In raw power Sasuke is superior, something I already know. Does that change a thing being said here? No. Does it change the fact that Naruto w/o NE is stronger than Sasuke w/o the Bijuu? No, it doesn't. Stop making stupid excuses.
 

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Sasuke was actually stronger at vote 2. At full power his eye techniques wouldnt have dried out so easily and then he would have harnessed his bijuu susanoo again and kill naruto

More excuses. Him and Naruto ran out of chakra at the end because their final attacks used all that power + they took heavy damage from the explosions of their techniques. Sasuke being at full power wouldn't change a thing.
 

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It seems like people saying Sasuke is more powerful at the end are relying very heavily on hypothetical situations that aren't close to fact why lol
 

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More excuses. Him and Naruto ran out of chakra at the end because their final attacks used all that power + they took heavy damage from the explosions of their techniques. Sasuke being at full power wouldn't change a thing.

Sasukes susanoo acted as a vessel for chakra like a gedo statue.
if sasuke retained bijuu chakra inside himself via Preta Path. his eye abilities would never have ran out so soon giving him a chance to still use the bijuu he sealed in ct.
 

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Lol yea excuses lol.. Kishi over your dumb ass opinion.. Adult Sasuke is equal to RSM Naruto.. Kishi>> you.
 

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It seems like people saying Sasuke is more powerful at the end are relying very heavily on hypothetical situations that aren't close to fact why lol

How is the Boruto movie hypothetical?
 

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As far as kn6 vs Sasuke goes,i feel like it wouldn't really come to that point.naruto has no genjutsu defense

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We see hear that early part 2 Sasuke has the ability to go inside Naruto and stop him from accessing kyuubis power

I'm not saying I agree with everything on this thread but if part 2 Naruto went up against part 2 or any version after Sasuke,he would be unable to access the chakra at all.
 

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You can compare the damage they were doing to Momoshiki. And Sasuke's susanoo was being buffed by Naruto's power. At that moment they were fighting on par. :lol Physical blows were equal. Durability was equal. Speed was equal too. Literally the same case in the Boruto Movie, except Naruto and Sasuke are actually stated to be equal unlike in the Manga.


You really need to stop making excuses. Bold is probably the dumbest thing you could possibly say. This argument only requires Kishimoto to be aware of the power of his own characters. Stop trying to over complicate shit here. :lol Are you going to argue next that Kishimoto doesn't take into account the comparison of power between the MC and his rival? :lol Amazing. Read the Manga and you'll know that Sasuke and Naruto's power ups always drew them closer to the other. That's the point of the MC rival relationship.

And how do I value feats over the authors words? Kishimoto said Naruto=Sasuke, you just believe it's Ashura Mode Naruto when supporting evidence disagrees. The casual fan would look at Naruto and Sasuke in the movie after reading the guide and say that Naruto=Sasuke based on what was shown in the movie as that is what the casual fan will see. Not sure why you thought it'd be a good idea to try and make this point when it doesn't help yours at all.

So V3 with CM is equal to BSM? Does that mean, then, that PS>BSM? Because Kurama's chakra is not stronger than Sasuke's chakra, as he himself admits, so his chakra would do nothing to Sasuke's Susunoo, which comes from the strength of Sasuke's chakra.

It isn't because that's what you're assuming, whether you know it or not. You're previous comment argues that Sasuke=Ashura mode Naruto doesn't make sense to you, therefore, it's not what Kishi meant "Saying "Sasuke=Ashura Mode Naruto" is based on little to nothing and definitely not more than what the opposite conclusion has for support.", and even in your latest post "you just believe it's Ashura Mode Naruto when supporting evidence disagrees."That, therefore, means that you assume Kishimoto actually thought about which powers he would make them use in order for them to be equal in the movie, just as you look at feats. Not only that, it's begging the question, i.e. you're assuming the answer to the very question we're arguing about.

Feats are what i'm talking about. When Kishimoto made each power up he wasn't worried about how fast each one is going to make them, or how well it work against the other opponent. This is seen throughout both the movie and the manga, where abilities are thrown out or forgotten to keep the story moving forward.

You're argument is basically that Kishimoto meant those characters at that point because he wrote it in a guide about the movie.

But you don't take into account anything else, which is kind of like jumping to a conclusion. No, the casual audience won't just see the movie and forget about the abilities Naruto used in the manga. They won't forget that Naruto can use SM with Kurama. For all they know he was using it in the movie. People take a quote and ignore what else happened, which is why a fan like Forneverworld, or Sawyer7mage can believe that Sasuke lost VOTE 2, even though both characters were in the same state at the end of the fight. It's also why people here have the ability to make fun of someone for not knowing something. Casual fans aren't as attentive, nor are they going to argue about things like this. In fact, to my knowledge, you're the only one who even thought this way, which doesn't mean you're wrong on it's own, but it does mean that most people thought that it was meant in general, even here on NB, where most people aren't casual fans.

And again, there is literally no reason for someone to come to that same conclusion as you did, unless they had some interest in the power of each character, which neither casual, nor Kishimoto have.
 
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