Temari vs Hidan
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Forbidden Technique
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Your point is garbage. That's my point. Go right ahead and believe that Pain failing against a much stronger version of Naruto is a sound counter argument to Deidara failing against early Shippuden Naruto. Not worth my time, since you're deciding on being moronic.
And, no, I wasn't trying to debate accomplishments. Based on the mistranslation (which is all you had to point out), I was of the belief that Itachi and Kisame were doing all the important missions, while Kakuzu and Hidan were bounty hunting non-notable Shinobi, which de-hypes the killing potential statement of Atsugai. Nothing more, nothing less. Notice EZQ's response to that post (who actually comprehended the exact point), and your reply, which actually ironically is what blew everything right out of proportion. Lmao, my goodness, what an absolute joke. Ol' boy addressed every possible angle of my post, missed the actual point, then wants to accuse me of blowing things out of proportion when I respond to the shit he started.
Notice how no fucks were given in regards to anyone else, besides Itachi and Kisame? Of course not. Pain casually states that the Zombie duo were dead, definitely showed his concern. Deidara wanted to be
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, but Pain didn't care. The Akatsuki's plans relied in Itachi and Kisame's hands. Yeah, common sense that you're lacking. Either your brain cells are literally fried or you're trolling. Now that I found out they attracted a bunch of Jonin and Chuunin caliber attention? Definitely didn't know that already. My God, lmao. Congratulations, that's pretty impressive. Definitely aids whatever pathetic standpoint you're trying to defend, because Itachi and Kisame definitely haven't attracted the attention of anyone far above that.
Yeah, that tends to happen when you're incapable of refuting something. You're simple minded. You think everything that everyone has accomplished makes it on panel? The answer is no. Their worth is a reflection of their accomplishments and contributions to the organization. When Deidara died, his worth was made known by the remaining Akatsuki members [
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]-[
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]. When the Zombie duo died, I'm so sorry, but not a fuck. Even with expressing the sense of Deidara's loss, his job within the Akatsuki wasn't as important as Itachi and Kisame's, as I already pointed out.Notice how everything I mentioned is backed up by the manga with at least some logical conclusion. You're quite clearly a bit frustrated, pounding nonsense on your keyboard. So, yes, you can stop - or continue on, because it's also a bit comical.
Fair enough, I do not have an issue conceding when something actually makes a shred of logical sense.
Lol, not true at all. Deidara struggled heavily taking down Gaara, who didn't enter any form of Biju mode, while he quite easily defeated the 3 Tails. Also, given the fact that Yugito was an imperfect Jin, she can't harness the full power of her Biju. There is a huge size difference between the two [
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]. I'm not undercutting nothing, manga facts only buddy. You're just reaching for the stars. Lol...
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Obito valued Kisame infiltrating the Cloud village over actually capturing Bee, so you can shut up already. You have no valid points, and you continue to absolutely butcher the Naruto manga on an usual basis. Just quit it.
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Lol so you have nothing to say again but your own interpretations and assumptions of characters feelings and off panel stuff lmao? Got it. Just say that next time instead of trying to make an argument out of it.
If everyone argued like this with no substance but pure gut feelings there would no end, literally pulling shit straight out of your ass.
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That's just using its chakra at best a cloak, not going Bijuu Mode, which Ni did.
Lol @FT trying to show me scale to say it wasn't a full bijuu, when every panel the scale is different and inconsistent. Kishi can't even get the scale down 2 pages in a row and this guy brings a panel from years later lmao.
What this guy doesn't get is she can't control her Bijuu but she can willingly enter it (allow her Bijuu to take over) as shown, makes sense since she's from the cloud and couldn't fully master it like Bee. But somehow to allow your Bijuu to take over you have to be a perfect Jin to this guy. It wouldn't even make sense for it NOT to be the full Bijuu because that would show she has mastery over it to control it, once the Bijuu takes over it takes over there are no in betweens once it has both tails out its a done deal. If there was one tail he would have an argument.
To top this all off Hidan is literally shouting out she completely transformed into her Bijuu.
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lel why despite him being jin for 40 years [
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].His prime purpose being to control the bijuu [
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]even gaara was able to transform into bijuu when he went on to sleep.Willingly or unwillingly does not matter when both are non perfect jin
Would need more proof then that, Kisame would have made note of him going Bijuu mode, he never mentioned a thing about fighting his Bijuu.
It's not that hard for Kishi to make it known Kisame took down a Bijuu.
I don't do speculation on this level. Especially an argument talking about accomplishments.
So I found what it said about Yugito in the databook. "She was made Nibi's jinchuuriki at the age of two. At the end of a detestable training that was imposed on her, she was able to control her transformation into Nibi at will. She gained confidence in herself through hard work."
So its exactly as I said, she went through that cloud training and she was able to transform into Nibi at will. If Roshi could do that it would outright state that in the databook.
Aside from the perfect jins only Nii has been mentioned to master it to this extent. And that is a manga fact.
So its exactly as I said, she went through that cloud training and she was able to transform into Nibi at will. If Roshi could do that it would outright state that in the databook.
Aside from the perfect jins only Nii has been mentioned to master it to this extent. And that is a manga fact.
But why are FT and Tosh debating this like a Kisame and Itachi vs Hidan and Kakuzu thread? The former is 100 times stronger than the later.
But FT said Hidan and Kakuzu were scrubs with scrub missions which is totally mistaken. No need to compare it with two high kage level shinobis lmao. I don't get why ft even brought that into the table.
They took down a bijuu transformation. Kakuzu's elemental blasts obviously were a key here since Hidan's stick can't do shit there.
But FT said Hidan and Kakuzu were scrubs with scrub missions which is totally mistaken. No need to compare it with two high kage level shinobis lmao. I don't get why ft even brought that into the table.
They took down a bijuu transformation. Kakuzu's elemental blasts obviously were a key here since Hidan's stick can't do shit there.
No one was arguing 2v2. The guy was trying to snake the notion that Itachi and Kisame were doing more for the organization, but then he failed because they only took down 1 Jin just like every akatsuki group, past that he was rambling about a whole bunch of feelings and hunches of his.
Forbidden Technique
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Incapable of refuting anything, thus retorting to save facing. Got it.
Again, stating that Yugito let her Bijuu completely take over, doesn't aid your standpoint. Deidara took down and captured the 3 Tails Biju with much less effort than he did with Imperfect Jin Gaara, who didn't utilize any form of Biju transformation.
Um, no. As I explained to Toshizo - Based on that incorrect manga translation, I was of the belief that Itachi and Kisame were doing all the important missions, while Kakuzu and Hidan were bounty hunting non-notable Shinobi, which de-hypes the killing potential statement of Atsugai that you presented. That was the sole reason of bringing up the scan of Itachi and Kisame. It wasn't to debate this, that, and the third. Toshizo decided to blow his load and escalate everything far beyond that, without the capability of backing his assertions up, then elects to ironically bitch about it all. Never intended to waist my time with this.
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Ok. But even with the incorrect tranlation, how can you say that about a team that took down Yugito? Obviously, Hidan's moveset is not very useful against a large beast. That's why i said, that Kakuzu's attacks probably were the most importants in that fight.
Finishing her off=/= taking her down.
And i'm not saying they are all that great. I'm saying is more logical to think that Kakuzu's elemental attacks where the keys when fighting bijuus, and not Hidan's, since Hidan can't do shit to a beast of that size with his moveset.
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Please FT don't be ignorant.
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Kakuzu himself stated he has no care for "scrubs" and clearly his drive for money leads him into taking down only the most valuable of shinobi in the bingo book :lol Ala his encounters with Kin, Jin and the rumored Tobirama. Learn more about the characters you bash my man.
Not to mention they had more relevance in a rushed arc than Kisame did in the whole manga, which I find quite sad tbh he deserved more than ultimately sacrificing himself for info that wasn't all that relevant.
Also bold is completely false
Lord Tywin
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Lmaoooo Forbidden Technique seriously stfu. You haven't brought one serious point worth consideration, I'm not like you I would give credit where it's due, you're fanboying rn garggling Kisame's cum.
I didn't escalate anything you brought a false scan and I addressed it, you went on to make it an argument instead of simply saying "my bad it was a mistranslation".
I didn't escalate anything you brought a false scan and I addressed it, you went on to make it an argument instead of simply saying "my bad it was a mistranslation".
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Stalemate.
Every time Hidan gets close to Temari she blows him away. Hidan wakes up the next morning in a far away land and travels to find her again only to be blown away again. Rinse and repeat for the next 60 years until Temari dies of old age. Hidan unfairly claims victory by virtue of living longer.
Every time Hidan gets close to Temari she blows him away. Hidan wakes up the next morning in a far away land and travels to find her again only to be blown away again. Rinse and repeat for the next 60 years until Temari dies of old age. Hidan unfairly claims victory by virtue of living longer.