[VS] Itachi vs Masked Man (kid obito)

[LoZelda101]

sc1: itachi vs masked man (no intel)

sc2: itachi vs masked man (itachi has intel)

sc3: itachi vs masked man/ kurama. (with full intel)

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quick itachi jutsu notes:

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- sharingan/MS precog
- crow feints
- shadow clones
- shadow clone explosion (feint)
- visual genjutsuv1 (obvious illusion)
- visual genjutsuv2 (reality simulator)
- body Vgenjutsu(finger)(reality simulator)
- time tsukuyomi (time dilation)
- amaterasu
- susanoo
- totsuka
- yata (please don't rely on this)
- fireball
- water release
- kunai (blindspot target)
- stat speed (5)
- stat gen (5)
- stat nin (5)
- stat seal (5)
- stat IQ (5)
- stat tai (4.5)
- stat strength (3.5)
- stat stamina (2.5)

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Masked Man (kid obito)

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-intangible kamui
-chains
-sharingan/MS precog
-visual genjutsuv1
- wood release

 

[Kakashistomps]

Itachi can win 1st and 2nd, but 3 he loses bc of Kurama..
I am not quite sure tho

 

[KidGamer65]

So the Obito that fought Minato? Itachi wins scenarios 2 and 3, and possibly 1.

-His Mokuton is fodder.
-His only line of offense worth mentioning is Kamui.
-If he tries to warp Itachi w/ Kamui Susanoo's activation cancels it and damages if not outright kills Obito.
-Clone feints would work wonders here in S2 and 3 since he has intel.


Oh wait, he has Kurama in S3. Obito would win with ease.

 

[DrProof]

So the Obito that fought Minato? Itachi wins scenarios 2 and 3, and possibly 1.

-His Mokuton is fodder.
-His only line of offense worth mentioning is Kamui.
-If he tries to warp Itachi w/ Kamui Susanoo's activation cancels it and damages if not outright kills Obito.
-Clone feints would work wonders here in S2 and 3 since he has intel.


Oh wait, he has Kurama in S3. Obito would win with ease.

You sure about that last one? Itachi's Sharingan would probably be able to overpower Kid Obito's control over Kurama. If all else fails Totsuka that bitch.

 

[KidGamer65]

You sure about that last one? Itachi's Sharingan would probably be able to overpower Kid Obito's control over Kurama. If all else fails Totsuka that bitch.

Yeah, but Obito won't give him the opportunity to counter act his Genjutsu as he'll have his hands full trying not to get warped in the first place, and Bijuu Dama takes seconds to charge and release, so if he's dealing with Obito, he won't be able to stop Bijuu Dama from being fired then it's GG since he won't survive it.

 

[DrProof]

Yeah, but Obito won't give him the opportunity to counter act his Genjutsu as he'll have his hands full trying not to get warped in the first place, and Bijuu Dama takes seconds to charge and release, so if he's dealing with Obito, he won't be able to stop Bijuu Dama from being fired then it's GG since he won't survive it.

Yata Mirror be like:

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Reflect the Bijuu Dama back @ Kurama/Obito.

Itachi solos. You don't believe Yata could do that fam?

 

[KidGamer65]

Yata Mirror be like:

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Reflect the Bijuu Dama back @ Kurama/Obito.

Itachi solos. You don't believe Yata could do that fam?

Nah. Yata's hype is empty hype. The only thing supporting the claims people make for this shield is a statement Black Zetsu made about it being invincible. It being a spirit weapon isn't evidence that's it's invincible unlike every other thing that was hyped to be invincible, unbreakable, or ultimate.

 

[LoZelda101]

Can this version Obito warp his opponents or he has just intangibility?
If he can not warp, Itachi can win 1st and 2nd, but 3 he loses bc of Kurama..
I am not quite sure tho

yes he can warp.

So the Obito that fought Minato? Itachi wins scenarios 2 and 3, and possibly 1.

-His Mokuton is fodder.
-His only line of offense worth mentioning is Kamui.
-If he tries to warp Itachi w/ Kamui Susanoo's activation cancels it and damages if not outright kills Obito.
-Clone feints would work wonders here in S2 and 3 since he has intel.


Oh wait, he has Kurama in S3. Obito would win with ease.

interesting, does this apply if obito instantly warps the moment he touches itachi? I was thinking he'd engulfed obito in flames to force him to warp it away by going tangible then strikes him with susanoo version2 arm.

nvm: I see what you're saying. activate susanoo to push back obito (force him to go intangible) that's a cool idea lol

 

[Kakashistomps]

yes he can warp.

Yup, from start i thought it was SZ kid Obito...
Itachi still can win 1,2 not sure about 3

 

[DrProof]

Nah. Yata's hype is empty hype. The only thing supporting the claims people make for this shield is a statement Black Zetsu made about it being invincible. It being a spirit weapon isn't evidence that's it's invincible unlike every other thing that was hyped to be invincible, unbreakable, or ultimate.

That is true. However, black zetsu being Kaguya's will (indirectly possessing Kaguya's memories more than likely seeing as Zetsu went back to it's original master (kaguya) vs Madara), I'd hold the statement to be true. Someone of Kaguya's stature knowing about Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade? They have to be legendary items from her time.

Her will praising such items can't be for nothing, it can't be baseless. Sure the feats aren't there, but the hype is very well believable due to the very person who made it out to be true. If it were anyone else the statement would be null, but it's Kaguya indirectly, which brings me to believe the statement tbh.

 

[Demonic.]

Itachi murks that ass

 

[LoZelda101]

Yup, from start i thought it was SZ kid Obito...
Itachi still can win 1,2 not sure about 3

Yeah. what about kurama. technically he is under obito's control. I don't know if he could break that to gain control over it in time to save him. then again he does have amaterasu and totsuka blade.

 

[LoZelda101]

That is true. However, black zetsu being Kaguya's will (indirectly possessing Kaguya's memories more than likely seeing as Zetsu went back to it's original master (kaguya) vs Madara), I'd hold the statement to be true. Someone of Kaguya's stature knowing about Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade? They have to be legendary items from her time.

Her will praising such items can't be for nothing, it can't be baseless. Sure the feats aren't there, but the hype is very well believable due to the very person who made it out to be true. If it were anyone else the statement would be null, but it's Kaguya indirectly, which brings me to believe the statement tbh.

please... anything but yata. is there no other way?

 

[DrProof]

please... anything but yata. is there no other way?

You gave Obito, Kurama. What else do you expect.

 

[Kakashistomps]

Yeah. what about kurama. technically he is under obito's control. I don't know if he could break that to gain control over it in time to save him. then again he does have amaterasu and totsuka blade.

Kurama himself can not break out from Obito' Genjutsu, but idk what will happan if Itachi tries to use Tsukuyomi on Kurama in oder to control it himself ot break him out of Obito' control... if Kurama shots Tbb it will hard for Itachi to tank it with Susasno+Yata(it is up to u if u believe Yata hype, v4 alone can't Tank Kurama's Tbb)and also Obito will be sneaky and tries to warp him while he is fighting Kurama.... idk really...

 

[Booker]

Round 1: Itachi loses, gets warped instantaneously. By his

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Obito was stalling when he tried to warp Minato from behind. Who knows why, dramatic effect? Point is that if Obito could instantly warp as soon as he touches, Itachi isn't winning here.

Round 2: With intel this is a different story, since Itachi knows specifically what to look out for and counter. Itachi wins via clone feints. I honestly see Obito getting cocky, going for the warp, and dying from an exploding clone.

Round 3: All depends on Yata's hype. If it holds Itachi cuts seals Kurama and can take on Obito. I'm not so sure his stamina can hold to do both, however.

Even assuming Yata's hype is real, I say Itachi loses. He doesn't have the stamina to fight Kurama with Susano'o and still have some chakra to battle Obito as well.

 

[LoZelda101]

You gave Obito, Kurama. What else do you expect.

because I don't want to start the inevitable yata vs hype argument. For christ sakes, your name dr. proof. lmao. I'm certain itachi arsenal is good enough to deal with bijuus without it. after all, his job was to hunt down bijuus/jinks.

Itachi murks that ass

lol your signature.

 

[Kakashistomps]

because I don't want to start the inevitable yata vs hype argument. For christ sakes, your name dr. proof. lmao. I'm certain itachi arsenal is good enough to deal with bijuus without it. after all, his job was to hunt down bijuus/jinks.

U think he can somehow avoid it? Or stop Kurama before he shots it? For example like pain did? Using different jutsu ofc?
U also say ur opinion

 

[KidGamer65]

That is true. However, black zetsu being Kaguya's will (indirectly possessing Kaguya's memories more than likely seeing as Zetsu went back to it's original master (kaguya) vs Madara), I'd hold the statement to be true. Someone of Kaguya's stature knowing about Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade? They have to be legendary items from her time.

Her will praising such items can't be for nothing, it can't be baseless. Sure the feats aren't there, but the hype is very well believable due to the very person who made it out to be true. If it were anyone else the statement would be null, but it's Kaguya indirectly, which brings me to believe the statement tbh.

Being Kaguya's will=/= Having Kaguya's memories. Two completely different things first of all. Him going back to Kaguya doesn't prove that as he already knows who created him and what his mission is. Only thing being her will means is that he's basically her servant. Black Zetsu living a long time doesn't prove that the hype of the items is true, and Yata and Totsuka being from her time is a reach if I've ever seen one. Black Zetsu has lived from Kaguya's sealing to the current day. They could be from any time period in between that 1000 years.

Black Zetsu being Black Zetsu and having more knowledge than almost every character in the series doesn't mean that his obvious hyperbolic statement isn't hyperbole based on nothing at all. Madara has knowledge of all of Hashirama's abilities, knowledge of things related to Rikudo and the Juubi yet he claimed his Susanoo can cut apart anything in the universe. Yet we all know that's not true. Hyperbolic statement for dramatic effect. Nothing more than that. Him being knowledgeable doesn't give credence to the hype he gave his Susanoo so why would BZ's knowledge give credence to Itachi's Mirror and Sword?

Especially for a claim as ridiculous that Yata can tank every attack shown in the Manga even if they were all put together and Totsuka can cut through any defense.

 

[KidGamer65]

yes he can warp.


interesting, does this apply if obito instantly warps the moment he touches itachi? I was thinking he'd engulfed obito in flames to force him to warp it away by going tangible then strikes him with susanoo version2 arm.

nvm: I see what you're saying. activate susanoo to push back obito (force him to go intangible) that's a cool idea lol

The first strategy wouldn't work anyway since Obito can just slip through the flame, and if Itachi strikes while Obito is warping then he'll get hit and get damaged, he won't be able to slip through it.