Nagato vs DSM Kabuto

[KCN]

Location is Nagato vs Itachi, Bee and Naruto
Distance is 50 meters
Knowledge is full

 

[KidGamer65]

Nagato wins mid-high diff. Closer to mid.

The only abilities that matter here for Kabuto are Sound Gen, White Rage, Muki Tensei and Liquefication. Sound Gen can be blown away w/ Fuuton. White Rage can be blown away w/ Shinra Tensei, and Muki Tensei can be overpowered by Asura Path. If he calls Manda II Chibaku Tensei traps it along with Kabuto. If at any point Nagato decides to nuke Kabuto w/ CST then it's a wrap since Kabuto won't survive that even with liquefication.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kabuto was scared of the Rinnegan in spite of having full knowledge. I think that's as simple as it gets honestly.

 

[KCN]

Nagato wins mid-high diff. Closer to mid.

The only abilities that matter here for Kabuto are Sound Gen, White Rage, Muki Tensei and Liquefication. Sound Gen can be blown away w/ Fuuton. White Rage can be blown away w/ Shinra Tensei, and Muki Tensei can be overpowered by Asura Path. If he calls Manda II Chibaku Tensei traps it along with Kabuto. If at any point Nagato decides to nuke Kabuto w/ CST then it's a wrap since Kabuto won't survive that even with liquefication.

I think the only jutsu that screws Kabuto here is Chibaku Tensei. CST can be avoided by hiding inside Manda 2's body, which if Manda can take C0 without any body disfiguration, then the larger and more powerful Manda 2 should be able to handle that. Agreed with everything else.

Kabuto was scared of the Rinnegan in spite of having full knowledge. I think that's as simple as it gets honestly.

I agree Nagato wins. I have seen people defend Kabuto in the past before though; was wondering if they'd show up.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Nagato takes it.

Kabuto was also afraid for Obito with 1 Rinnegan.

 

[Edogawa]

I think the only jutsu that screws Kabuto here is Chibaku Tensei. CST can be avoided by hiding inside Manda 2's body, which if Manda can take C0 without any body disfiguration, then the larger and more powerful Manda 2 should be able to handle that. Agreed with everything else.

Uh, no. Taking something which killed you isn't going to mean you can take an attack that blew up a +10km village, which is constructed from dense layers of earth.

OT: Nagato low diff. All of Kabuto's attacks are countered by Nagato's, while Kabuto presents no counter to Nagato's lethal moves. Either Pain or Nagato stomp Kabuto.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Nagato takes it Mid-High Diff

 

[KCN]

Uh, no. Taking something which killed you isn't going to mean you can take an attack that blew up a +10km village, which is constructed from dense layers of earth.

OT: Nagato low diff. All of Kabuto's attacks are countered by Nagato's, while Kabuto presents no counter to Nagato's lethal moves. Either Pain or Nagato stomp Kabuto.

Manda 2 is almost the same as the turtle island, which is bigger than Konoha. If you take into consideration Manda 2's overall superiority to Manda, who albeit died but took C0 with no body disfiguration then Manda 2 should be able to take CST sacrificing it in the process. Also consider Kabuto's liquefaction and various regeneration techs; Manda will take the brunt of the damage leaving Kabuto unharmed, and even if he took some damage it would be miniscule.

 

[Kakashistomps]

Manda II is way bigger than Kurama and Nagato's CT is like Tiny ball for it...

 

[Edogawa]

Manda 2 is almost the same as the turtle island, which is bigger than Konoha. If you take into consideration Manda 2's overall superiority to Manda, who albeit died but took C0 with no body disfiguration then Manda 2 should be able to take CST sacrificing it in the process. Also consider Kabuto's liquefaction and various regeneration techs; Manda will take the brunt of the damage leaving Kabuto unharmed, and even if he took some damage it would be miniscule.

The turtle is certainly not bigger than Konoha, when two accepted calcs say Konoha's radius is +20km and the turtle island was dwarfed by Hirudora. Manda 2 is about the length of Perfect Susanoo, with a little more durability than his predecessor, which hardly makes a difference.

Anyway, like I said; the attack Manda died from had much lower magnitude than CST, just by analyzing the level of DC they caused: one created a small crater and the other destroyed a dense constructed layer of earth, so the latter is distinctly more powerful.

As far as Kabuto's regeneration methods, the liquefaction is vulnerable to lightning nature and body shedding can all be dealt with Human Path, Chakra receivers or Chibaku Tensei. There are many ways Nagato can one-shot Kabuto.

 

[KCN]

The turtle is certainly not bigger than Konoha, when two accepted calcs say Konoha's radius is +20km and the turtle island was dwarfed by Hirudora. Manda 2 is about the length of Perfect Susanoo, with a little more durability than his predecessor, which hardly makes a difference.

Anyway, like I said; the attack Manda died from had much lower magnitude than CST, just by analyzing the level of DC they caused: one created a small crater and the other destroyed a dense constructed layer of earth, so the latter is distinctly more powerful.

As far as Kabuto's regeneration methods, the liquefaction is vulnerable to lightning nature and body shedding can all be dealt with Human Path, Chakra receivers or Chibaku Tensei. There are many ways Nagato can one-shot Kabuto.

Hirudora didn't dwarf the island. The blast radius encompassed a perimeter of it, that's all [

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] by enveloping a section of the island. Manda and Manda II aren't even close in power, size, width... nothing. Of course CST is much stronger than C0, but Manda II likewise is much stronger and has an overall stat boost all around, which is exponentially greater than the original Manda. Plus consider that Manda will absorb the brunt of the attack, so Kabuto's healing and liquefaction should handle any potential damage which may come his way.

I know. I'm talking strictly about CST here. I think Nagato wins, if you read my previous posts.

 

[Edogawa]

Hirudora didn't dwarf the island. The blast radius encompassed a perimeter of it, that's all [

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]. Manda 2 literally moved the island's position, almost flipping it in the process [

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] by enveloping a section of the island. Manda and Manda II aren't even close in power, size, width... nothing. Of course CST is much stronger than C0, but Manda II likewise is much stronger and has an overall stat boost all around, which is exponentially greater than the original Manda. Plus consider that Manda will absorb the brunt of the attack, so Kabuto's healing and liquefaction should handle any potential damage which may come his way.

I know. I'm talking strictly about CST here. I think Nagato wins, if you read my previous posts.

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It dwarfed it. The angle from behind shows a proportionate size of the two, which Hirodura dwarfs the island from just the back, meaning if the angle was drawn to encompass the entire two, Hirodura would dwarf it based on how from a small angle dwarfed the island. Well, you don't know how much Manda II is stronger than his predecessor, so trying to estimate based on hasty unknown non-existent feats is just speculation.

 

[KCN]

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It dwarfed it. The angle from behind shows a proportionate size of the two, which Hirodura dwarfs the island from just the back, meaning if the angle was drawn to encompass the entire two, Hirodura would dwarf it based on how from a small angle dwarfed the island. Well, you don't know how much Manda II is stronger than his predecessor, so trying to estimate based on hasty unknown non-existent feats is just speculation.

Do you know what dwarf means? It means to overshadow and make something seem insignificant. Therefore, it has to be bigger than said variable you're comparing it to. If Hirudora "dwarfed" the turtle island, then the island would be destroyed along with everybody on it. Your scan isn't representative of the entire island, it simply shows a section from behind the island, where the rest of the island (front and vertical length of the island) isn't being represented. Hirudora is bigger vertically, but that isn't saying much as you're comparing it to a woodland area... of course it's gonna be longer -- you'd have a point if you were comparing it to mountains. Like I just showed you, Naruto's team were actively seeking Gai, so there were trying to reach him yet the they still saw the blast from a sizeable distance, rather than get dragged into it. You're severely overestimating Hirudora's size, please.

 

[Edogawa]

Do you know what dwarf means? It means to overshadow and make something seem insignificant. Therefore, it has to be bigger than said variable you're comparing it to. If Hirudora "dwarfed" the turtle island, then the island would be destroyed along with everybody on it. Your scan isn't representative of the entire island, it simply shows a section from behind the island, where the rest of the island (front and vertical length of the island) isn't being represented. Hirudora is bigger vertically, but that isn't saying much as you're comparing it to a woodland area... of course it's gonna be longer -- you'd have a point if you were comparing it to mountains. Like I just showed you, Naruto's team were actively seeking Gai, so there were trying to reach him yet the they still saw the blast from a sizeable distance, rather than get dragged into it. You're severely overestimating Hirudora's size, please.

I'll post anime if you're not convinced with manga, seeing as how it's blur.

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It's encompassing the back of the island Hirudora, which shows the latter much bigger. Dwarf may not have been the correct word to describe, so I'll give you that, but the premise is still right. Besides the point, I don't see how arguing size is relevant; you haven't shown that the island is bigger than Konoha.

 

[Obitos]

U have to restrict Kabuto otherwise it isn't even a fight.... if u restrict ET i am not sure who wins it is 50/50 IMO

 

[Zexion~]

Getting skimmed by a blast and dying =/= tanking a force meant to crush things into the ground, however Manda 2 is larger and can't it liquify?

CT ends it regardless

 

[TRE MERCER]

Nagato wins mid-high diff. Closer to mid.

The only abilities that matter here for Kabuto are Sound Gen, White Rage, Muki Tensei and Liquefication. Sound Gen can be blown away w/ Fuuton. White Rage can be blown away w/ Shinra Tensei, and Muki Tensei can be overpowered by Asura Path. If he calls Manda II Chibaku Tensei traps it along with Kabuto. If at any point Nagato decides to nuke Kabuto w/ CST then it's a wrap since Kabuto won't survive that even with liquefication.

Umm no. Chibaku tensei does not end Manda II.

 

[KidGamer65]

Umm no. Chibaku tensei does not end Manda II.

Lmao don't even try to argue otherwise.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Umm no. Chibaku tensei does not end Manda II.

Tre Mercer back with the Manda wank. JK, how does he counter it? going underground?

 

[Warlocks]

Nagato wins