[Spoilers] Madara is not a Zetsu clone!! Contains Theory as well!!!
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Honord Sage
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Madara and Zetsu do have a connection to each other, Kishi has not yet reveled it but it's their, The questions are when did they first meet? Why do they seem to need one another? Madara of legends was a Loner, When and why they seems to need each other? And why they always back the other at critical moments out of the blue?
silenceofthelambs
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At this point it seems like Zetsu repairs body parts for Madara (who gives Zetsu something in return, but what that is has yet to be seen), hinting that they might have some kind of mutualistic relationship. Kabuto's medical abilities include reviving dead cells, so could Zetsu possibly have the same power? There are still many questions, but it looks as if Zetsu heals Madara whenever he suffers some injury (most times, minor) in battle, such as against Fu and Torune when he lost an entire arm.
Honord Sage
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Could it be that Madara chakra is nourishment for Zetsu? Or Madara's Genjutsu abilities keeps the split Personalities in light Zetsu and Dark Zetsu from coming into conflict over one a noter? Which ever it is it's their. Hopefully Kishi may drop some small hints here and their.
silenceofthelambs
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That is certainly possible. Madara's chakra keeps Zetsu "alive" somehow, and Zetsu returns the favor by repairing Madara's body parts. Zetsu's light and dark half communicate with each other, but one might have tried taking over the other in the past (if both halves have such intentions). But I don't think this is true because Zetsu's halves share each other's thoughts as well, so one half would know what the other is planning. However, I have a question for you: considering what Madara has told us about his plans, and how he intends to resurrect the Jubi, do you think that Madara has Minato's corpse in storage somewhere, since he sealed the other part of the Nine-Tails' chakra within himself? And that he will utilize it when the Nine-Tailed Fox can finally be sealed in the Demon Sealing Statue? I can't recall a specific chapter, but didn't someone say somewhere that Minato's body was never found after he died? Sarutobi was there in chapter 503, but somehow I have the feeling that a certain character said that sentence somewhere. I could be wrong, but what are your thoughts, since you seem to have a good, practical knowledge of the Naruto world?
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zetsu to me seems somewhat parasitic and in a way it seems madara might actually be the host of some sort and zetsu holds regenerative properties.it almost seems as if to stay alive and to stay in one piece they need eachother.zetsu holds madara together and fills in his 'empty shell' and madaras otherworldly chakra gives zetsu the power chakra and energy he needs to perform the feats he does.
would anyone care to add on this?especially you silence?
Honord Sage
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We may see in next chapter what Happen to Minato's Body. We will see if Madara retrieved it, Or the 3rd Hokage might have had it destroyed to prevent someone from extracting its secrets. AMBU OPS dose dispose bodies when its convenient or maybe the 3rd had it buried in an undisclosed location.
silenceofthelambs
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Zetsu might be benefiting at the expense of Madara, but if Madara has stated that he is only a "mere shell of [his] former self," then the question is: what is Zetsu benefiting off of? If Madara is as weak as he says, then there would be nothing of value for Zetsu to extract from Madara. In other words, Madara might very well have a portion of his power that he held before and during his fight with Hashirama, which he now keeps hidden from all - so the Kages will underestimate him when they go into battle.
If you remember Zetsu's spore technique, which he used against the Fifth Mizukage to replenish Sasuke's chakra, then this might be something that Zetsu does for Madara. Zetsu keeps Madara alive by supplying him with a constant flow of chakra, explaining how and why he has managed to live so long. But in that case, how long have Madara and Zetsu known each other? It seems their history together goes far back, perhaps to the point after Madara's loss to Hashirama Senju at the Valley of the End.
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To add on, Madara might really be an empty shell of his former self, and possesses none of his former power. Instead, Zetsu must feed off of other people's chakra to give Madara, so he has some form of power to remain alive. Also, it has been stated in the manga that Zetsu can make a perfect copy of anyone's chakra just by touching them. Is that an ability that Zetsu somehow "gave" Madara? It would explain the reason why Madara decided to fight Minato, to remember the signature of his chakra, and possibly to use it for himself. Like Samehada, which drains a person's chakra to give to Kisame so his stamina remains alive and well, Madara could be doing the same thing, by just touching an opponent, he can use some of their chakra for his own. Would it explain why Madara chose to have his arm infected by Torune, to receive some of his chakra? Would it explain why Madara chose to receive the blow of the Rasengan and the Contract Seal, to utilize Minato's chakra as his own? If you notice in chapter 503, Minato recongized the fact his chakra was all but gone.
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Was this Madara's doing? I hope to find out.
silenceofthelambs
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If I can find the chapter that says Minato's body was never retrieved by Konoha, then I will. Somehow it seems so familiar, that line, but I can't recall who said it or where it was spoken. I will dig through some older chapters and try to get back to you with his information. Thank you, though, for your opinions. You clearly have a solid and developed knowledge of this manga.
kisamexRocks
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If they have a connection and Zetsu repairs Madara, either Zetsu feeds upon Chakra in return or Zetsu eats bodies. So perhaps Madara kills people in order to let Zetsu feed.
Just a theory but when Madara teleported Fu and Torune, maybe he killed them and is letting Zetsu feed on them.
Just a theory but when Madara teleported Fu and Torune, maybe he killed them and is letting Zetsu feed on them.
Honord Sage
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You may be right that Zetsu's provide His tech to Madara in return for bodies, Zetsu resembles a Venus Fly Trap that slowly breaks down animal material for sustenance and in return uses His plant like regeneration tech to heal Madara wounds and over all health. Its obvious that Madara and Zetsu need each other more than any other members in their organization. If Madara plans fail He can started over again as long as Zetsu is on His side. I hope Kishi will clarified their relationship before the war starts, that way we can see were it leading each character more clearly.
maybe you correct but kishi always makes us go wrong.xd