[Discussion] How long can Prime WB last in Marineford?

[Passerby]

What if it was Prime WB at Marineford? This version supposedly can easily evade Squards attack and wont get jumped by random fodder.
Also his Crew will be a bit more relaxed because this time they wont have to shout "Oyaji!!!" every time something happens to him.

IMO They should be able to save Ace though I bet WB will still have to sacrifice himself to buy his Crew time to leave.

 

[JStar King]

If it was prime Whitebeard in the Marineford Arc, there would be no more Akainu. Akainu was pissing his pants when he stood behind him. Plus, I don't think Blackbeard can touch him in his prime either.

 

[kimb]

If Prime White Beard fought in Marineford;

• Ace would still be alive
• Aokiji would be dead
• Akainu would be dead
• Blackbeard wouldn't have the Gura Gura no mi
• Doflamingo would have been killed for killing Oars jr.
• Dressrosa arc wouldn't happen.
• Time skip wouldn't happen.
• Blackbeard wouldn't be Yonko
• Sabo wouldn't have the Mera Mera no mi

 

[cajin]

Akainu would kick his ass.

 

[JStar King]

Akainu would kick his ass.

Nice Fanfic. If Whitebeard was in his prime. It would be a different story. Akainu would be dead

 

[Forbidden Tale]

I think Ace would still be alive.

I think Ace would still die in the war.

Whitebeard pirates with old WB, were still capable of freeing Ace from the execution platform. Ace wasn't killed because Whitebeard Pirates couldn't save him, but because he was pissed by Akainu's insults and instead of trying to run away, he clashed directly with Akainu.

If Ace tried to run away, he would likely survive enough for Red Hair Pirates to show and stop the war.

Only other way for Ace to survive would be if Prime WB is strong enough to take Sengoku, Garp, Akainu, Kisaru and Aokiji at the same time, while his 'sons' are retreating, which I doubt he is capable of. There are also some characters like Mihawk who wanted to fight Whitebeard, and later BB pirates would arrive to take WB's head.

So I definitely don't think Prime Whitebeard could deal at the short period of time with Sengoku, Akainu, Aokiji, Kisaru, Mihawk, Blackbeard, Wolf, Shillew, Catarina, Avalo, Vasco, Burgess, Doc Q, Laffite, Van. Somone would still slip out and kill Ace.

The only way in which Ace would survive (but I do not think it's matter is it Prime WB or Old WB) would if Whitebeard himself koed Ace and give orders to Marco to carry him away, but either way (Prime or Old) I think WB would meet his end in the Marineford.

 

[chopstickchakra]

What if it was Prime WB at Marineford? This version supposedly can easily evade Squards attack and wont get jumped by random fodder.
Also his Crew will be a bit more relaxed because this time they wont have to shout "Oyaji!!!" every time something happens to him.

IMO They should be able to save Ace though I bet WB will still have to sacrifice himself to buy his Crew time to leave.

They "saved" Ace at MF without WB sacrificing himself, Ace only died because he refused to leave when his window was open.

When you say "Prime" do you mean Prime or WB not with a disease but still the same age? Because in his prime he was rivaled only by Roger and Garp. If that's the Prime you mean then I agree with Venom.

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

white beard in his prime is still average yonko lvl, the WG isn't a bunch of scrubs if they were why hasn't the 4 yonko just annihilate them that moment. yea they all hate each other but my enemies enemies are my allies right? also white beard is a scrub compare to shanks. two armed shanks o jizzus..... dude stopped the war.

 

[Phact]

Madara wipes the floor with all of them...

I think if Garp(old) was more serious in the war he would give Whitebeard(prime) a good fight.

 

[Jacosta1]

Akainu would kick his ass.

Now, your just talking nonsense. May I remind you, prime WB was considered to be on "PAR" with Gold D Roger who just happens to be the Pirate King. Oda also stated that prime WB could've destroyed the entire planet.

Conclusion: WB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Akainu

 

[chopstickchakra]

I think Ace would still be alive.

Whitebeard pirates with old WB, were still capable of freeing Ace from the execution platform. Ace wasn't killed because Whitebeard Pirates couldn't save him, but because he was pissed by Akainu's insults and instead of trying to run away, he clashed directly with Akainu.

If Ace tried to run away, he would likely survive enough for Red Hair Pirates to show and stop the war.

Only other way for Ace to survive would be if Prime WB is strong enough to take Sengoku, Garp, Akainu, Kisaru and Aokiji at the same time, while his 'sons' are retreating, which I doubt he is capable of. There are also some characters like Mihawk who wanted to fight Whitebeard, and later BB pirates would arrive to take WB's head.

So I definitely don't think Prime Whitebeard could deal at the short period of time with Sengoku, Akainu, Aokiji, Kisaru, Mihawk, Blackbeard, Wolf, Shillew, Catarina, Avalo, Vasco, Burgess, Doc Q, Laffite, Van. Somone would still slip out and kill Ace.

The only way in which Ace would survive (but I do not think it's matter is it Prime WB or Old WB) would if Whitebeard himself koed Ace and give orders to Marco to carry him away, but either way (Prime or Old) I think WB would meet his end in the Marineford.

Your post confuses me.

You say you think he'd still be alive but then go on to say he'd still get killed while trying to run away protected by Prime WB?

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[Like Naruto]

Bb said "i used to respect you oldman, but you become old.. You cant even save one of your nakama" something like that, think about the prime whitebeard when marines caught one of his subordinates, they even might just let them off the hook even pirates was scared to touch whitebeard pirates( like buggy) think about it idiot.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

white beard in his prime is still average yonko lvl, the WG isn't a bunch of scrubs if they were why hasn't the 4 yonko just annihilate them that moment. yea they all hate each other but my enemies enemies are my allies right? also white beard is a scrub compare to shanks. two armed shanks o jizzus..... dude stopped the war.

So, why doesn't one of the Yonko side with Marines and destroy other Yonkos. In that case it's still enemies of my enemies is my friends??

Whitebeard in his prime is strongest character in series (with Roger), so he can't be just average yonko level (whatever that means).

Marines can't stop 4 Yonkos at the same time. They could if it were just Marine HQ vs 4 Yonkos (without their crew), since it was said that these two forces balance each other. But 4 Yonkos with their crews are too much for not just marines but for World Goverment as well. So, WG by you is scrup, considering Marine HQ + Shichibukai can't take them.

Before Marineford war, it was said that WG (Marines + Shichibukai) can't deal with Beast Pirates and Red Hair Pirates who just made contact, while they are preparing for war with Whitebeard pirates.

So, World Goverment (Marine HQ (Sengoku, Garp, Akainu, Aokiji, Kisaru, Tsuru, BC Vice Admirals, other Vice Admirals, Pacifistas) + Shichibukai (Mihawk, Boa Hancock, Marshall D. Teach, Gecko Moriah, Donquixote Dolfamingo, Bartolomew Kuma)) is not strong enough to beat Beast Pirates (Kaido, 3 Disasters, and other members) + Red Hair (Shanks, Benn, Lucky Roo, Yasopp, and other members) + Whitebeard pirates (Whitebeard, 14 Commanders, 16000 members).

The guy stopped the war, after
- Marines got huge losts in the war.
- Bleackbeard pirates arrived with 5 new members from level 6, so in worst possible scenarion happes, Marines would need to fight Red Hair Pirates, Whitebeard Pirates, Blackbeard Pirates and Impel Down Prisoners.
- Some strong guys from WG's side already retreated like Mihawk.

If any Yonko character or Yonko level threath appeard war would stop, it doesn't matter would Kaido, Big Mom or Dragon be in Shanks' position, war would end there.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Your post confuses me.

You say you think he'd still be alive but then go on to say he'd still get killed while trying to run away protected by Prime WB?

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I wanted to say "I do not think Ace would survive". -.-"

 

[YellowFang]

Yep...

Prime or not, WB wasn't going to walk out of there alive. As OP mentioned, in the end he'd have to face the slaughter to let his crew escape...
I still doubt if they could still manage to escape after WB's death. Soooo...

No, no significant changes in the outcome unless Shanks interferes again.

 

[TRE MERCER]

He still dies. If this was Prime WB we'd see Garp and Sengoku going all out. Idk if he's in his prime or not He isn't beating 3 admirals plus Garp and Sengoku.

 

[MickNerks]

If it was Prime Whitebeard:

- Ace still would have died
- WB pirates would have been able to escape
- Akainu would be dead
- Aokiji would be the current Admiral
- Blackbeard would not have Whitebeards Devil Fruit
- Garp and Sengoku would have likely killed Whitebeard in the end
- There would be no clash between the WB pirates in the BB pirates post timesip
- Shanks wouldnt have needed to end the war. With Akainu dead and the WB pirates escaping the war would probably have ended after Garp and Sengoku killed whitebeard

 

[sravan]

Man i laugh at some people who under estimate WB(both prime & old)..
If he was in his prime no one in MF has a chance to beat him..
He can just walk straight to the execution area by using his quakes to throw all the fodder marines away while the WB pirates gang bang admirals..
It would have taken less than an hour to retrieve ace..Ace will live this time because akainu will not be able to run his mouth since WB will kick him like a punch bag with non stop punches..
WB commanders can fight admirals in group(3 or 4 vs1),WB alliances can deal with shichibukai,garp & sengoku would be busy dealing with Luffy & co.
The only thing that was stopping WB there was ace because if ace was never captured by marines and the war is for any other reason WB can just destroy everything on marineford with his devifruit and all the df users on marineford will die(no akainu no aokiji no kizaru can survive seawater being a df user).

 

[Punk Hazard]

Ace would have still died. Ace's death had nothing to do with Whitebeard failing to do anything, it had to do with Ace running back to fight Akainu. WB's strength wouldn't have affected that variable.

Even in his prime, Akainu wouldn't survive fighting three Admirals in a row if they went all out. No one could.

If it was prime Whitebeard in the Marineford Arc, there would be no more Akainu. Akainu was pissing his pants when he stood behind him. Plus, I don't think Blackbeard can touch him in his prime either

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[JStar King]

Ace would have still died. Ace's death had nothing to do with Whitebeard failing to do anything, it had to do with Ace running back to fight Akainu. WB's strength wouldn't have affected that variable.

Even in his prime, Akainu wouldn't survive fighting three Admirals in a row if they went all out. No one could.


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