Who's Stronger?
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Edogawa, are you being completely serious on this post :|. No offense, this is some of the most ridiculous things I've heard on here. I understand if you loathe Sasuke's character but there's no need to grossly underrate him.
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I don't loath cosplay You little keyboard angry kids need to stop taking cartoon discussion too serious. If you disagree with the premise, propose a counter-argument and avoid ad hominem, otherwise, you'll be ignored like the fodders I don't reply to. To answer your question: Yes, I sincerely believe Nagato shit-stomps EMS Sasuke and beats Rinnegan Sasuke. You find that ridiculous? Guess what...
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.First, Sasuke wasn't even completely serious against Shin. So you can't judge the power of sasuke's PS based on that. If he was serious Shin would've been splattered when Sasuke grabbed him with the Susanoo hands.
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Nope. How can that even be true. Sasuke everything Nagato has. Preta is the only problem.
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Tantalus Thief
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>If Sasuke intended to kill Shin then why didn't he crush him like a grape when he had him in his PS hand.
>Yes Sasuke can use some of his strongest powers while still holding back. He cearly wasn't going all out. And had 2 reasons not to. For one Sakura was in there and his PS already had insane DC so it would be unwise to use that while she is around. Plus he didn't want to kill Shin. Don't know why you said "Sasuke intending to kill Shin." when he said that he was going to get Shin into konoha.
>I don't get the part about PS swing. I can decide how fast a sword can swing and the force behind it. It's the same for PS and I don't see a reason why it wouldn't. It's an avatar afterall that completely is controlled by the user's movements. So it's speed and force is adjustable. PS is not a gun where it's impossible to adjust force.
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I'll pose a similar question to you: Hold an apple and try to crush it, will it work? No, because the force your hand is applying to crush the apple is not great enough to crush it into pieces. The analogy is the same as here: the force PS applied to its hand couldn't crush Shin like a grape. Well, Danzo wasn't crushed like a grape either.
Now before you reply to me, don't take my words out of context. I said a crushing force and not a cutting force. PS cutting tip of mountains doesn't equal to crushing anything by grabbing.
It's not ''some'', it's his ''strongest'' power which is PS, and he's not holding back if he's manifesting PS when he had other means. Sakura is there? This is your execuse? Naruto used 9 elemental Rasenshurikens and
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, so that means nothing. Let's analyze the event.The distance between Sakuran and Shin:
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Sakura was already far away from Shin. PS swings the blade at 180 degree, meaning the shockwave travels from the direction Shin is at, and no one could caught by it.
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The motion line Sasuke swings the blade at means he's applying full force to it.
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The same rate of motion line Madara applies a swing to his blade.
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When the animators animate this, then my argumentation is correct.
neosmith500
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LMAO , Sasuke focused his power into a stab in order to destroy shin's weapons , and capture him LOL..
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even a 4 y.o will see the difference but tard is still bullshitting sasuke wants to kill shin when explictly states he didn't
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TheSages456
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Nagato is stronger since this Sasuke has V3 Susano'o at most. ST deflects Sasuke's arrows. CT ends this.
Majestic Attire by itself is not Perfect Susano'o.
Majestic Attire by itself is not Perfect Susano'o.
Tantalus Thief
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If it's not PS then why does it have the same diamond, katanas, pointy nose, samurai shoulder armor and mountain cutting abilities like PS? I think majestic attire is PS that wraps around a tailed beast. PS is majestic attire with no bijuu in it. But yes no form of Susanoo below pS will make Sasuke win.
>When Danzo was crushed blood splattered everywhere. The same didn't happen with Shin. There's no hard evidence Shin has some apple-like properties which prevent him from being crushed like Danzo. Sasuke says it himself he was going to get Shin tinto Konoha for questioning.
>How do you know the motion lines mean Sasuke and Madara used the same force? Madara clearly used superior force because his blade cuts mountains with it's shockwave alone. Sasuke's pS has already shown DC which should be at the very least be around Madara's level. A shockwave should've completely destroyed Shin's hideout even if it was in a stabbing motion but Sasuke held back.
>You can't deny Sasuke didn't want to kill Shin. Sasuke used PS because he already had it on. Sasuke also puprosefully missed stabbing Shin in the stomach because like I said he wanted him arrested for questioning. Later he deactivitates because it wasn't neccassary. Shin isn't even close to being around Sasuke's level so PS was never needed other than flight to his hideout.
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TheSages456
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If Sasuke had Perfect Susano'o against Obito, then there isn't any reason that he would've went at him in V3 Susano'o.
No, Sasuke's Majestic Attire didn't even possess the same blade that his Perfect Susano'o does.
His Majestic Attire displayed no mountain cutting power either, so I don't even know what you're talking about here, but he never had the chance to, so I'm not using that as evidence. He doesn't have the same blade.
Majestic Attire is just Susano'o wrapped around Kurama by definition. The power of such corresponding to the version of Susano'o that the user has access to at the time.
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Tantalus Thief
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Sasuke unlocked it at that moment with him fusing it with Naruto's avatar.
They do possess the same blade. It's a Susanoo katana.
I know Sasuke's iso susanoo never displayed it. I was referring to madara's as an example of how majestic attire and PS have the same properties.
My main point is that majestic attire clearly shares traits and power to PS. So I believe that it is PS but wrapped around Kurama.
Lol this thread can't have that many post.
It's obvious you guys won't convincce edogawa so why to keep it? He keeps acting like "don't take cartoon animation too serious" but you read his posts and he's TOO damn serious, and the ridiculousness of his premise is bigger than the power gap between Sasuke and Nagato.
I've made my entrance, goodbye.
It's obvious you guys won't convincce edogawa so why to keep it? He keeps acting like "don't take cartoon animation too serious" but you read his posts and he's TOO damn serious, and the ridiculousness of his premise is bigger than the power gap between Sasuke and Nagato.
I've made my entrance, goodbye.
KidGamer65
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Lol of course the same clowns are arguing nonsense like "Iso Susanoo isn't Perfect Susanoo" even though Iso Susanoo is literally shown to be the same armor as PS, but wrapped around Kurama. How the actual fuck can you armor Kurama with a version of Susanoo you don't even possess in the first place?
And don't even get me started and that retarded moron Madara Rules. Lmao. PS couldn't kill shin with a direct hit but it can force Naruto to use his Avatar to combat it. :lol
And don't even get me started and that retarded moron Madara Rules. Lmao. PS couldn't kill shin with a direct hit but it can force Naruto to use his Avatar to combat it. :lol
I know right. The edogawa guy has to be joking. No one who understands the manga can genuinely believe that. His name is edogawa not Madara Rules btw.
I also agree on the first. The iso susanoo is literally perfect susanoo manipulated to cover Kurama. i really don't get why people can't put 2 and 2 together and deny it is that.
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TheSages456
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Sasuke just unlocking it at that point sounds nonsensical. Nothing happened to him where he could have "unlocked it" after getting drop slammed. All he did was lose Naruto's chakra cloak.
Naruto & Sasuke could have used that combo throughout the entire duration of their fight against Obito.
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The difference with Madara's Majestic Attire is that it possesses every single trait of Madara's Perfect Susano'o, including the sword.
Sasuke's Majestic Attire and his Perfect Susano'o don't even possess the same weaponry.
Majestic Attire taking on the design of Perfect Susano'o seems to be a trait of the jutsu and it seems pretty obvious to me that Ems Sasuke wouldn't be manifesting a fully standing Perfect Susano'o.
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