Who's Stronger?

Who's Stronger?

  • Nagato Uzumaki

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • EMS Sasuke

    Votes: 11 57.9%

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TheSages456

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Answer me this, what would happen if Sasuke manifested that particular Susanoo he put around Kurama with no Kurama around?

He can't. He needs to wrap his Susano'o around Kurama for it to take that form.
 

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He can't. He needs to wrap his Susano'o around Kurama for it to take that form.
Sorry but that isn't making much sense to me. What exactly is preventing Sasuke from manipulating the Susanoo into a humanoid form like all the other forms of Susanoo. Why does this particular Susanoo only have a form for a 4 legged, 9 tailed creature?
 

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Sorry but that isn't making much sense to me. What exactly is preventing Sasuke from manipulating the Susanoo into a humanoid form like all the other forms of Susanoo. Why does this particular Susanoo only have a form for a 4 legged, 9 tailed creature?
Because that's simply how Majestic Attire looks. It doesn't change the fact that this supposed "Perfect Susano'o" is shown with a completely different sword than when it's fully introduced.
 

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Sorry but that isn't making much sense to me. What exactly is preventing Sasuke from manipulating the Susanoo into a humanoid form like all the other forms of Susanoo. Why does this particular Susanoo only have a form for a 4 legged, 9 tailed creature?

Just ignore that guy. None of his posts ever make sense.

You can tell he's grasping at straws when he compares the swords, even though Madara and Rinnegan Sasuke formed theirs out of their own PS's arms, while EMS Sasuke formed his from Kurama's chakra avatar, which is where the visual difference comes from, plus he ignores literally all other similarities in favor of that little straw.

Him and Edogawa are a red flag for this section.
 
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EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto's Chakra Constructs manifested at different times, so how exactly was EMS Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o dependent on Naruto's chakra?

As for the topic, EMS Sasuke shits.
 

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Because that's simply how Majestic Attire looks. It doesn't change the fact that this supposed "Perfect Susano'o" is shown with a completely different sword than when it's fully introduced.

lol are you going to ignore all the key similarities PS and MA Susanoo share (large human sized diamond, plated samurai armor, scaly arms, pointy tengu nose) for the swords not being the same.

Don't you think it's a bit stupid how a Susanoo variant can't be used without a bijuu :lol when all the other susanoo have human forms?
 

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lol are you going to ignore all the key similarities PS and MA Susanoo share (large human sized diamond, plated samurai armor, scaly arms, pointy tengu nose) for the swords not being the same.

Don't you think it's a bit stupid how a Susanoo variant can't be used without a bijuu :lol when all the other susanoo have human forms?
Yes. Majestic Attire having visual similarities to Perfect Susano'o does not equate the 2.

Madara's Majestic Attire possessed the weapons of his Perfect Susano'o while Sasuke's did not.

Sasuke did not layer this
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onto Kurama. If he did, they would possess the same katana.
 

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I cannot believe to this day people claim Sasuke cannot manifest his own Perfect Susano'o after maturing with his EMS. Sasuke defeats Nagato with almost no impediment after materializing his PS, loses without.
 

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>When Danzo was crushed blood splattered everywhere. The same didn't happen with Shin. There's no hard evidence Shin has some apple-like properties which prevent him from being crushed like Danzo. Sasuke says it himself he was going to get Shin tinto Konoha for questioning.

If Shin wasn't crushed like a grape while Danzo was, then that's just a feat of Shin's durability. Just like his other feats making Sasuke's exaggerated feats look like a sissy. And he didn't that particular Shin for questioning, if he could get another of his genetic clone, since all of them possess same information.

>How do you know the motion lines mean Sasuke and Madara used the same force? Madara clearly used superior force because his blade cuts mountains with it's shockwave alone. Sasuke's pS has already shown DC which should be at the very least be around Madara's level. A shockwave should've completely destroyed Shin's hideout even if it was in a stabbing motion but Sasuke held back.

I highlighted to you the rate of motion line in both instances, and just the two had about the same rate. The only difference between the two instances is, Sasuke swung the blade at 180 degree and Madara swung it at 360 degree; all of the field wherever Shin positioned at were destroyed.

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Hideout not being destroyed was result of Sasuke swinging the blade at a focused angle. 5 Kages weren't taken out by a slash of PS because it swung the blade at a different position than they were.

>You can't deny Sasuke didn't want to kill Shin. Sasuke used PS because he already had it on. Sasuke also puprosefully missed stabbing Shin in the stomach because like I said he wanted him arrested for questioning. Later he deactivitates because it wasn't neccassary. Shin isn't even close to being around Sasuke's level so PS was never needed other than flight to his hideout.

These are just excuses. Sasuke using his PS means Sasuke is going all out, since he's manifesting his full power/strongest technique. Sasuke intending to capture Shin for questioning is another excuse, since he could capture another of his genetic clone, which all possess same information.
 

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Lol at edogawa neg repping me because of my lack of english. That only says how stupid you are boy

bruh the clown is prime example of an Illiterate on Internet

If Shin wasn't crushed like a grape while Danzo was, then that's just a feat of Shin's durability.
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If Shin wasn't crushed like a grape while Danzo was, then that's just a feat of Shin's durability. Just like his other feats making Sasuke's exaggerated feats look like a sissy. And he didn't that particular Shin for questioning, if he could get another of his genetic clone, since all of them possess same information.



I highlighted to you the rate of motion line in both instances, and just the two had about the same rate. The only difference between the two instances is, Sasuke swung the blade at 180 degree and Madara swung it at 360 degree; all of the field wherever Shin positioned at were destroyed.

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Hideout not being destroyed was result of Sasuke swinging the blade at a focused angle. 5 Kages weren't taken out by a slash of PS because it swung the blade at a different position than they were.



These are just excuses. Sasuke using his PS means Sasuke is going all out, since he's manifesting his full power/strongest technique. Sasuke intending to capture Shin for questioning is another excuse, since he could capture another of his genetic clone, which all possess same information.


He referred to adult shin. Yes he has clones but adult shin was the leader and has a perspective they need info on. Besides the manga said Sasuke was going to capture him for interrogation. You can't deny what the manga has said.
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ySasuke using PS doesn't mean he went all out. He didn't even use Chidori or it's full Destructive capability with it. He just used it to stab and grab Shin then he deactivated it. Again manga has said he wanted the adult Shin. Manga>our words.
 
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He referred to adult shin. Yes he has clones but adult shin was the leader and has a perspective they need info on. Besides the manga said Sasuke was going to capture him for interrogation. You can't deny what the manga has said.
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ySasuke using PS doesn't mean he went all out. He didn't even use Chidori or it's full Destructive capability with it. He just used it to stab and grab Shin then he deactivated it. Again manga has said he wanted the adult Shin. Manga>our words.

They're all genetic clones of each other, and all of them have the same information; whether Shin being a leader or not did not affect the Intel they needed, so that point is moot. Manga doesn't disagree with my assertion.

1. Sasuke's strongest technique is PS and he manifested it to capture Shin.
2. Sasuke swings the sword and he cut off Shin's arm off at best, along with the field destroyed.

Your analogy can be compared to Madara vs Hashirama, with the former's goal to get Hashirama's DNA, but that didn't prevent Madara from going all out on Hashirama. Saying Sasuke didn't do his best against Shin is just an excuse, and pity one in that. Just to let you know, PS swords were dodged before by Hashirama and Kaguya, so if you're angry at how Shin made PS look pathetic, then you can look at prior fights.
 

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Nagato >= EMS Sasuke. Chakra absorption TKO
 

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Susanoo is nothing but chakra, meaning it's an easy target for preta path. Nagato can also kuchiyose the Gedo Mazo and has the Rinnegan's outer path to which ems saske has no counters.

we know what a single rinnegan did to obito, obito who was able to defy death, black zetsu and performed feats that only original indra or ashura could!

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"it's chakra and eye power was SO STRONG"

double rinnegan nagato defeats ems sasuke, perfect susanoo is non-factor given preta or Cerberus (preta or shinra tensei protection against amaterasu) rest is easy with soul dragon
 
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