What will happen to Europe in the future?

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And also how the **** can germans and other european people be scared of immigrants in their own ****ing country? (Not in general)
You got no pride or what? I see german people i know telling me they change paths when they see some immigrants (mostly turks) at night. I really hope that turkey lets the million immigrants to europe.
Would be fun
What does the country have to do with the people again? It doesn't matter in which country you are, shitty people are dangerous regardless of the location. As 3rd Raikage mentioned, the kind of people I was talking about usually move in groups and often already have experience with violence. The common civilized european can not relate to these things and doesn't want to either. Even if I had a chance against violent men, I wouldn't want to resort to violence to defend myself. That is against my way of life.

I also don't know how pride would help you when there is one guy or more with a knife in front of you.
 

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Liberal values, democrasy and secularity during the long period of peace after WW2 have taught europeans to be civilized (with the exception of polish, hungarian and tzech people). Thus we don't have the mentality to face third world savages like some of the people you are referring to are. Also most of them (migrants, refugees) move in packs of 10-15 people. Europeans don't do that. And the other reason is that muslim migrates are overpresented in crime statistics. So if you cross paths with a turk gang at night vs when you cross paths with white people, in light of statistics you are more likely to get robbed/raped by the muslim migrants.

You're location says Germany, but you don't talk like a native. You talk like an outsider. Are you an immigrant perhaps? What an utter despicaple thing to say that you would enjoy a immigrant flow to Europe. That's not good for anybody!



Based on what? The fact they have taken million refugees in to their country to give them a safe haven?
Then why do most german teens try to change their behaviours to those of their "immigrants" regarding the way they talk and what else there is? Its just those who have racist familys who are mostly against immigrants, no, not the ones who came here a few years ago, but those who were here for like 50+ years as workers.

Trust me, muslims wouldnt do any harm, in fact theyd be the first one to help if anything happens, and germans, as i experienced it, would be the one harming you, because their society is ****ed up. Clean your media washed brain mate, i guess youre 100% german/dutch/american, whatever? Youre not able to think as both cultures
 

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What does the country have to do with the people again? It doesn't matter in which country you are, shitty people are dangerous regardless of the location. As 3rd Raikage mentioned, the kind of people I was talking about usually move in groups and often already have experience with violence. The common civilized european can not relate to these things and doesn't want to either. Even if I had a chance against violent men, I wouldn't want to resort to violence to defend myself. That is against my way of life.

I also don't know how pride would help you when there is one guy or more with a knife in front of you.
Im just talking about my citizenships because thats what i experienced, it could also be the dutch and arabs for example. Prejudices wont change, no matger the country. Europeans are brainwashed by the media
 

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Then why do most german teens try to change their behaviours to those of their "immigrants" regarding the way they talk and what else there is? Its just those who have racist familys who are mostly against immigrants, no, not the ones who came here a few years ago, but those who were here for like 50+ years as workers.

Trust me, muslims wouldnt do any harm, in fact theyd be the first one to help if anything happens, and germans, as i experienced it, would be the one harming you, because their society is ****ed up. Clean your media washed brain mate, i guess youre 100% german/dutch/american, whatever? Youre not able to think as both cultures
Oh they'd be first to help if anything happens? Hmm..I wonder if that applies to terrorist attacks?

ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.


16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".


22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).


The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).


Terrorism Research Institute Study: 51% of mosques in the U.S. have texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% have texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% have no violent texts at all.


MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)



Do you think these statistics are worrying? If so I'd advice you to start focusing on the mindset that is causing terrorism and racism. Racism doesn't come on it's own. Stereotypes are there for a reason. So before you go blindly shouting your mouth about germans being racist, while they have given alot of people a safe haven including you I suppose(?), take a look at the facts.​
 
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Im just talking about my citizenships because thats what i experienced, it could also be the dutch and arabs for example. Prejudices wont change, no matger the country. Europeans are brainwashed by the media
So the trash-part of the people that flooded Europe is only a bunch of actors that were hired by the media in order to brainwash the local citizens? I can't believe that you are really in Germany and don't see all the problems we currently have.
 

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So the trash-part of the people that flooded Europe is only a bunch of actors that were hired by the media in order to brainwash the local citizens? I can't believe that you are really in Germany and don't see all the problems we currently have.
Medias blaming refugees for everything happening here, every incidence is titled "muslim refugee bombs paris brussels". No, the media in europe brainwashes people telling them thst refugees and especially muslims are at fault for whats happening in this world. Or a scenario where i can talk about, erdogan. Everyone in eirope is against him, saying that he is hitler2 and turkey is not safe anymore due to him. German media doesnt talk about their problems anymore, they only bash turkey. Thats why i dont care what happens anymore in europe. Thus the people in my city, friends, try to argue with me saying that "media" said that, cmon, the media fcked us ip.
Btw where are you from bevause you said "we currently have". If youre german we can talk in private, i love this topic :)
 

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Medias blaming refugees for everything happening here, every incidence is titled "muslim refugee bombs paris brussels". No, the media in europe brainwashes people telling them thst refugees and especially muslims are at fault for whats happening in this world. Or a scenario where i can talk about, erdogan. Everyone in eirope is against him, saying that he is hitler2 and turkey is not safe anymore due to him. German media doesnt talk about their problems anymore, they only bash turkey. Thats why i dont care what happens anymore in europe. Thus the people in my city, friends, try to argue with me saying that "media" said that, cmon, the media fcked us ip.
Btw where are you from bevause you said "we currently have". If youre german we can talk in private, i love this topic :)
That's enough information for me to not deal with you anymore. Defending trashy immigrants as well as Erdogan. You really are a special one, huh.
 

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That's enough information for me to not deal with you anymore. Defending trashy immigrants as well as Erdogan. You really are a special one, huh.
Oh we got one of those brainwashed racists here, btw i voted for erdogan

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Oh we got one of those brainwashed racists here, btw i voted for erdogan

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Why don't you go live under Erdogans rule then? Instead you are taking advantage of european hospitality, using the technology they invented. You seem to have no problem exploiting our wealth, civilized services and modern innovations, but you are quick to deem most of us racists? Also can you please point one or even two articles in the media that are based on false information? You talk like there is no problem, like muslims aren't overpresented in the crime statistics and like we should just close our eyes. We had problems before migrants and we have more problems now. Just because we have problems that aren't cause by migrants doesn't mean that there aren't problems that are caused by them.
 
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Why don't you go live under Erdogans rule then? Instead you are taking advantage of european hospitality, using the technology they invented. You seem to have no problem exploiting our wealth, civilized services and modern innovations, but you are quick to deem most of us racists? Also can you please point one or even two articles in the media that are based on false information? You talk like there is no problem, like muslims aren't overpresented in the crime statistics and like we should just close our eyes. We had problems before migrants and we have more problems now. Just because we have problems that aren't cause by migrants doesn't mean that there aren't problems that are caused by them.
well my family is here since mid 1900 and i, during my young age of 18, got literally no chance to go back to turkey, but, i will when im old, i promise you this

Wealth? have you ever been to the more modern cities in turkey? I swear its 100 times better than any city in europe. Have you been in istanbul during the coup a few moths ago? I have. If this wouldve happened in the us or europe people would be all like "ok sorry im scared coup is successfull" because you are cowards. Where di you got the fact that muslims are the ones doing thosr crimes? In fact its mostly american or people in their own country doing those. Yeah, sure there may be immigrants causing trouble aswell, but its not just them how the media depics them. Wow a syrian pasport was found next to the bomber of paris yeah it hasnt been burned by the flames of course
 

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well my family is here since mid 1900 and i, during my young age of 18, got literally no chance to go back to turkey, but, i will when im old, i promise you this

Wealth? have you ever been to the more modern cities in turkey? I swear its 100 times better than any city in europe. Have you been in istanbul during the coup a few moths ago? I have. If this wouldve happened in the us or europe people would be all like "ok sorry im scared coup is successfull" because you are cowards. Where di you got the fact that muslims are the ones doing thosr crimes? In fact its mostly american or people in their own country doing those. Yeah, sure there may be immigrants causing trouble aswell, but its not just them how the media depics them. Wow a syrian pasport was found next to the bomber of paris yeah it hasnt been burned by the flames of course
Um sorry but no the us it wouldnt happen the red necks and other gun owners would fight back that is why we have the 2nd ammendment while it is a double edged sword it is there incase of invasion, or the government becomes tyranical, or to fight insurrection

Also if you so richly love turkey and think it is the cats meow go live there no one can force you to stay
 

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Yes, Merkel messed up big time here and I truly hope that her time as the leader is over by the next election. But still, those disgusting right-wing parties like AfD must never come into a position of power. It would be even worse for Germany and Europe. Not just for the immigrants, but also for other minorities like LGBT and the german citizens in general. We don't need another era of fascism.
I don't think Merkel messed up in any way. She played her part very well, that muppet.

And also how the **** can germans and other european people be scared of immigrants in their own ****ing country? (Not in general)
You got no pride or what? I see german people i know telling me they change paths when they see some immigrants (mostly turks) at night. I really hope that turkey lets the million immigrants to europe.
Would be fun
Wouldn't you be scared of some shady looking people about to cross your path in the middle of the night? The general native populace of scandinavian countries and other EU nations are very sober and good at negating conflicts. Many muslim immigrants are exactly the opposite. Not just muslims, ofc, but the majority are. Fact remains; criminality rates skyrocket when east-asian, north-african, middle-eastern immigrants settle. You can't argue with the statistics. Their whole value-pattern is more primitive than Europeans. Period.

And, for the record; before you try to pull off the victim-card, I always defend muslims when it comes to terrorism. When bombs and mass shootings are involved in Europe, it is most likely planned to induce fear into the chattle and make them more lenient towards new civil rights restricting laws. I am only talking about the common domestic issues like theft, brawls, rapes, etc. There are and always have been issues with muslim-ish citizens and new immigrants in Europe. And the funny thing is; the native europeans have been doing their best for decades to turn a blind eye to the bad apples amongst these immigrants and focus on the ones that are properly integrated and western-mannered. And it's getting harder and harder to ignore these issues and those immigrants + 2nd/3rd generation immigrants keep proving their worries to be correct.
 
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By letting people in the country politicians get a voter base. They can gain votes by appeasing them as a group. They are going to be always united as people of single religion, which will be always portrayed as oppressed minority. If this continues you will get some kind of 3rd world country. Your country will be divided with extreme left who want preserve it shithole and extreme right who would want change and it will be bad place for sensible ppl since you cant have any middle ground. When Ahmeds burning the street the only one's who protest and retaliate will be the people whom the left leaning media would call racists and xenophobes. If you are native, for self preservation and preserving future for your children and country you would have to chose the right. If you are minority you would choose left because you are automatically stereotyped into the extremists of your side.
 

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Yesterday a girl has been dragged off her bicycle and raped. The rapist has been identified as a "war" refugee from a refugee centre nearby. There You have the future of Eurabia.
 
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Oh they'd be first to help if anything happens? Hmm..I wonder if that applies to terrorist attacks?

ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.


16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".


22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).


The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).


Terrorism Research Institute Study: 51% of mosques in the U.S. have texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% have texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% have no violent texts at all.


MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)



Do you think these statistics are worrying? If so I'd advice you to start focusing on the mindset that is causing terrorism and racism. Racism doesn't come on it's own. Stereotypes are there for a reason. So before you go blindly shouting your mouth about germans being racist, while they have given alot of people a safe haven including you I suppose(?), take a look at the facts.​
I understand your frustrations, i am a black man living in hungary and i see people are angry about immigration and the culture changes, but we must learn to live with each-other or die like fools. I contribute to the society over here, and invest in the economy with my money and it sickens me when i hear of other black men behaving like criminals or thugs as it cast aspersions on the good ones. People just want a better life and want to leave in peace, your frustrations are understandable but resentment and intolerance is not the way to go.
 
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