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No. That's like saying having blond hair is a Bloodline Limit; it's not. It's just a genetic advantage like having more fast-twitch muscle fibers for sprinting or jumping.

Uzumaki genes give large chakra and life force. Uchihas unlock sharingan. Both are good advantages and both are genetic ones
 

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Uzumaki genes give large chakra and life force. Uchihas unlock sharingan. Both are good advantages and both are genetic ones

The point of this was no sharingan or kyuubi not factors like sasuke's strong chakra or brain and naruto's life force and large chakra, then again you don't read the manga judging from your posts so I'm guessing you don't read threads
 

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No. That's like saying having blond hair is a Bloodline Limit; it's not. It's just a genetic advantage like having more fast-twitch muscle fibers for sprinting or jumping.

Their eyes are their henetic advantage bro. Blood is genetic

Senju naturally have the stronger body. You are putting Uchiha at a disadvantage
 

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Uzumaki genes give large chakra and life force. Uchihas unlock sharingan. Both are good advantages and both are genetic ones

That doesn't dismiss the fact that the Uzumaki traits aren't a Bloodline Limit. The equivalent would be the Uchiha having strong chakra. The Sharingan is in a different category.
 

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The point of this was no sharingan or kyuubi not factors like sasuke's strong chakra or brain and naruto's life force and large chakra, then again you don't read the manga judging from your posts so I'm guessing you don't read threads

Sharingan is a result of sasukes strong chakra. Clearly you dont read the manga and im guessing you must be a shadow clone alt seeing as you getting owned left and right
 

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Sharingan is a result of sasukes strong chakra. Clearly you dont read the manga and im guessing you must be a shadow clone alt seeing as you getting owned left and right

Its not a result of the strong chakra its a result of emotional stress causing a brain change in chakra to the optic nerve....stay salty


You're the one getting owned in every thread
 

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No. That's like saying having blond hair is a Bloodline Limit; it's not. It's just a genetic advantage like having more fast-twitch muscle fibers for sprinting or jumping.

That's exactly the definition of a KKG. Is it a shitty one? Absolutely. But it still qualifies.

In fact, the Senju KKG which is directly related has a direct influence on other KKG such as the Sharingan, so they are clearly related.
 

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Their eyes are their henetic advantage bro. Blood is genetic

Senju naturally have the stronger body. You are putting Uchiha at a disadvantage

I know the Sharingan is a genetic Bloodline Limit. I don't know where I put the "Uchiha at a disadvantage" in anything?
 

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That doesn't dismiss the fact that the Uzumaki traits aren't a Bloodline Limit. The equivalent would be the Uchiha having strong chakra. The Sharingan is in a different category.

Its genetic and if were coming at genetic advantages like the sharingan all things should be considered no matter the category its only fair. Bloodline limit is simply a title given to an ability granted by gentics
 

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Yes he could and it'd be easier fuse with the too elder Toad's and no kurama to stop it.
 

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Its not a result of the strong chakra its a result of emotional stress causing a brain change in chakra to the optic nerve....stay salty


You're the one getting owned in every thread

Wow you just basically reworded what i said and now you just actually solod yourself good job.
 

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That's exactly the definition of a KKG. Is it a shitty one? Absolutely. But it still qualifies.

Not really. Bloodline Limits are specific abilities passed down through genetics. Having large chakra and life-force aren't abilities.
 

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Its genetic and if were coming at genetic advantages like the sharingan all things should be considered no matter the category its only fair. Bloodline limit is simply a title given to an ability granted by gentics

You don't have the ability to decipher between the two? so then naruto being an uzumaki allows him to keep kurama inside of him therefore its his ability,
 

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Wow you just basically reworded what i said and now you just actually solod yourself good job.

So strong chakra=different type of chakra released thru brain to optic nerve?

you're soloing yourself because your reasoning is so unsound and off the mark none can take you seriously
 

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Its genetic and if were coming at genetic advantages like the sharingan all things should be considered no matter the category its only fair. Bloodline limit is simply a title given to an ability granted by gentics

I don't know where you're going with this. My initial post was to correct that the Uzumaki traits aren't Bloodline Limits. I have nothing to do with the other argument.
 

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sometimes i wonder if these people even read the manga.
 

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You don't have the ability to decipher between the two? so then naruto being an uzumaki allows him to keep kurama inside of him therefore its his ability,

Theres basically no difference between what you said and what i said because sasukes chakra is what allowed him to get the sharingan. Kurama was a gift from his daddy he wasnt born with it.
 

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And why aren't they? Do explain.

The Sharingan is an ability. The Wood Style is an ability. Large chakra and life-force are "characteristics", not something you use. In order to avoid any more senseless technicalities, I'll point you to the fact that Kushina is not listed as having any Bloodline Limits in the Databook.
 
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