#Rinnegan

[Michael]

I find it hilarious when sasuke fans claim "base sasuke" = RSM Naruto. XD

Exactly what do you people think the rinnegan is? Both RSM and Rinnegan are godly powers. Nagato with madara's eyes gave of a godly presence with his deva path alone.

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Now sasuke is an uchiha with an EMS and tomoe rinnegan and hagoromo's yin chakra. If Nagato's power was that divine with transplanted eyes, how do you think sasuke's power feel whom is far superior? :elmo:

It's simply astounding people believe sasuke at this point with his current abilities and half of hagoromo's chakra is somehow "base form". ​

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Sasuke doesn't need transformations, at least not anymore. :sdo:

 

[Michael]

Sasuke doesn't need transformations, at least not anymore. :sdo:

No, only itachi's eyes that underwent numerous transformations/upgrades. :elmo:

 

[Yokaze Sama]

I find it hilarious when sasuke fans claim "base sasuke" = RSM Naruto. XD

Exactly what do you people think the rinnegan is? Both RSM and Rinnegan are godly powers. Nagato with madara's eyes gave of a godly presence with his deva path alone.

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Now sasuke is an uchiha with an EMS and tomoe rinnegan and hagoromo's yin chakra. If Nagato's power was that divine with transplanted eyes, how do you think sasuke's power feel whom is far superior? :elmo:

It's simply astounding people believe sasuke at this point with his current abilities and half of hagoromo's chakra is somehow "base form". ​

Pain is so freaking badass and intimidating

 

[Michael]

Pain is so freaking badass and intimidating

At the time the rinnegan was godly and mysterious. Now everyone has one. The manga really went downhill after pain arc, frankly it should've ended after pain arc. :elmo:

 

[Megax Rocker7]

No, only itachi's eyes that underwent numerous transformations/upgrades. :elmo:

Last I checked, transformation is the changes in ones physical appearance, not just spiritual.

Physically, Sasuke is only enhanced with rikudo chakra and possibly bits of Hashiroids, other than that rinne and sharing only enhanced his visual interception and gave him new abilities.

Sasuke was always strong physically as he managed to match rock lee's speed, developed lightning release, learned chidori and copied lee's fighting style all in one month, Kakashi stated that developing new elemental natures alone takes months.

His physical strength all comes down to the fact that he's gifted with powerful chakra because indra, which in turn makes you physically stronger as seen with the likes of Naruto when stronger chakra is in their system.

And with each time his eyes evolved, new chakra was released from his brain, thus more powerful chakra, thus more powerful physically, thus stronger base form.

Hence no transformation. :sdo:

 

[Michael]

Last I checked, transformation is the changes in ones physical appearance, not just spiritual.

Physically, Sasuke is only enhanced with rikudo chakra and possibly bits of Hashiroids, other than that rinne and sharing only enhanced his visual interception and gave him new abilities.

Sasuke was always strong physically as he managed to match rock lee's speed, developed lightning release, learned chidori and copied lee's fighting style.

His physical strength all comes down to the fact that he's gifted with powerful chakra because indra, which in turn makes you physically stronger as seen with the likes of Naruto when stronger chakra is in their system.

Hence no transformation. :sdo:

Fail, Itachi's eyes change their physical appearance upon upgrading. :sdo:

Naruto possess the body of the sage, therefore he undergoes bodily transformations/upgrades. Sasuke possess the eyes of the sage, therefore he undergoes eye transformations/upgrades.

How can something so simple be so hard to comprehend? :elmo:

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Fail, Itachi's eyes change their physical appearance upon upgrading. :sdo:

Naruto possess the body of the sage, therefore he undergoes bodily transformations/upgrades. Sasuke possess the eyes of the sage, therefore he undergoes eye transformations/upgrades.

How can something so simple be so hard to comprehend? :elmo:

Re-Read my post as unsurprisingly you missed the entire point. :elmo:

 

[Michael]

Re-Read my post as unsurprisingly you missed the entire point. :elmo:

No, I read it just fine. :elmo:

 

[Megax Rocker7]

No, I read it just fine. :elmo:

Then I guess you realise that Sasuke's strength in base is due to his strong chakra and not host eyes because the eyes evolved when his chakra evolved, thus I wasn't claiming that Sasuke matched RSM Naruto with just normal chakra like you thought I was ampling:elmo:

 

[take it easy]

Good thread Michael.

 

[SusanooGodEgde]

Heard that.

 

[Yokaze Sama]

At the time the rinnegan was godly and mysterious. Now everyone has one. The manga really went downhill after pain arc, frankly it should've ended after pain arc. :elmo:

Yeah dude, even though I really like Sasuke and all, the fact that he also has a Rinnegan just seems not right, same goes with Naruto and his RSM. It's over the top and forced.
Pain should have been the final villain or even Tobi if it weren't for that stupid too obvious reveal.

 

[Michael]

Then I guess you realise that Sasuke's strength in base is due to his strong chakra and not host eyes because the eyes evolved when his chakra evolved, thus I wasn't claiming that Sasuke matched RSM Naruto with just normal chakra like you thought I was ampling:elmo:

Yet again, fail. Throughout the series sasuke received numerous enhancements/powerups and not just visual. :elmo:

 

[super michael]

Yet again, fail. Throughout the series sasuke received numerous enhancements/powerups and not just visual. :elmo:

The enhancement we know Sasuke got was these below:

- CM (which Sasuke loses it permanent
- Drug to awaken CM to CM level 2 (which Sasuke lose permanent)
- Itachi eye to gain EMS
- Hagoromo chakra which turns EMS to Rinnegan.

 

[Michael]

The enhancement we know Sasuke got was these below:

- CM (which Sasuke loses it permanent
- Drug to awaken CM to CM level 2 (which Sasuke lose permanent)
- Itachi eye to gain EMS
- Hagoromo chakra which turns EMS to Rinnegan.
- Drugs/steroids from orochimaru
- Power from hashirama
- Senjutsu from jugo
- Hashirama cells from Kabuto

Fixed :elmo:

 

[Detonator99]

Last I checked, transformation is the changes in ones physical appearance, not just spiritual.

Physically, Sasuke is only enhanced with rikudo chakra and possibly bits of Hashiroids, other than that rinne and sharing only enhanced his visual interception and gave him new abilities.

Sasuke was always strong physically as he managed to match rock lee's speed, developed lightning release, learned chidori and copied lee's fighting style all in one month, Kakashi stated that developing new elemental natures alone takes months.

His physical strength all comes down to the fact that he's gifted with powerful chakra because indra, which in turn makes you physically stronger as seen with the likes of Naruto when stronger chakra is in their system.

And with each time his eyes evolved, new chakra was released from his brain, thus more powerful chakra, thus more powerful physically, thus stronger base form.

Hence no transformation. :sdo:

What...?:elmo:

 

[super michael]

- CM (which Sasuke loses it permanent
- Drug to awaken CM to CM level 2 (which Sasuke lose permanent)
- Itachi eye to gain EMS
- Hagoromo chakra which turns EMS to Rinnegan.
- Drugs/steroids from orochimaru There is no proof
- Power from hashirama There is no proof
- Senjutsu from jugo Temporary no longer has it
- Hashirama cells from Kabuto unclear if it healing or cell transplant

Sasuke hasn't shown Mokuton, while Madara has shown Mokuton.

That is another fixing, but thanks for adding them.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Yet again, fail. Throughout the series sasuke received numerous enhancements/powerups and not just visual. :elmo:

I am asking what does that have to do with his strength not being in base form enstien? :lol

The point here is that Sasuke's "transformations" do not enhance his physical abilities as his base form is strong due to his powerful chakra and the "power ups" you speak of, I don't even know what's so hard about this that makes you unable to comprehend the dojutsu is just a result of his chakra's growth, not the other way around hence why his dojutsu do not effect his base from in any way:sdo:

 

[Detonator99]

At the time the rinnegan was godly and mysterious. Now everyone has one. The manga really went downhill after pain arc, frankly it should've ended after pain arc. :elmo:

For me everything went downhill after the obito reveal, the pain arc was simply the best arc shippuden had to offer.

The other ones as the hokage summit and the turtle island where actually pretty good.