#Rinnegan

[Senpou]

Sasuke doesn't need transformations, at least not anymore. :sdo:

So if sasuke undergoes some unknown transformation then he will not be in his base anymore? Is that what you are saying? You sound really stupid with this post tbh. :Lol

 

[Dizzldot]

Whoe cares if he is base or not, by physicals such as speed durability and power naruto is leagues above him because of his buffs and sasuke gets the powers the rinnegan gives you while naruto got the powers of the tailed beasts and TSB and naturally energy they're equal in different ways

 

[Megax Rocker7]

So if sasuke undergoes some unknown transformation then he will not be in his base anymore? Is that what you are saying? You sound really stupid with this post tbh. :Lol

You're stupid if you think Sharingan is a transformation in the same sense as SM and KCM. . :sdo:

 

[super michael]

The Sharingan to Rinnengan evolution doesn't seem to enhance their speed, power, chakra, stamina etc, it appears to give new jutsu and better eye sight.

 

[Senpou]

You're stupid if you think Sharingan is a transformation in the same sense as SM and KCM. . :sdo:

You are the one who said transformation, not me. Why did you bring up transformation in the first place? Butthurt much?
Sasuke having ems and rinnegan means he's at full power all the time. Transformation my ass

 

[Megax Rocker7]

What...?:elmo:

Dojutsu doesn't make you physically stronger, that's what ya'll need to know. :sdo:

 

[Megax Rocker7]

You are the one who said transformation, not me. Why did you bring up transformation in the first place? Butthurt much?
Sasuke having ems and rinnegan means he's at full power all the time. Transformation my ass

Calls me butthurt yet he's the one throwing insults. #logic :lol

What ya'll are implying is That dojutsu affect his base form in physical sense, when they don't, only transformations or "forms" do that such as CM, SM, Chakra modes and so on. :sdo:

Sasuke's physically strength does not change with dojutsu, but he received permanent boosts to his base form in the form of his chakra evolving, thus he's still in base.

Naruto's forms differr in the sense that they do give him physical boosts that his base form is unable to access. :sdo:

 

[Detonator99]

You're stupid if you think Sharingan is a transformation in the same sense as SM and KCM. . :sdo:

If a doujutsu can give you a stronger chakra then it pretty much means that its a stronger form

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During the manga sasuke ms sasuke was stated to have a chakra stronger then CM2, Ems was stated to give a far more powerfull version of chakra by madara and it was thanks to hagoromo's chakra that he was able to awaken the rinnegan so as long he has the rinnegan he has hagoromo's chakra, witch is pretty much all the time.

So no i think you are mistaken if you think they are not giving him more power.

 

[patrickscott]

Rustle, Rustle, Rustle Simmons

 

[Dizzldot]

Calls me butthurt yet he's the one throwing insults. #logic :lol

What ya'll are implying is That dojutsu affect his base form in physical sense, when they don't, only transformations or "forms" do that such as CM, SM, Chakra modes and so on. :sdo:

Sasuke's physically strength does not change with dojutsu, but he received permanent boosts to his base form in the form of his chakra evolving, thus he's still in base.

Naruto's forms differr in the sense that they do give him physical boosts that his base form is unable to access. :sdo:

correction, they give him forms that people without the transformations can't access aka sausage uchiha.

ITs like the 8 gates, sasuke will never be 8 gates guy speed because he can't open the gates and its impossible to be at that level without them

 

[Senpou]

Calls me butthurt yet he's the one throwing insults. #logic :lol

What ya'll are implying is That dojutsu affect his base form in physical sense, when they don't, only transformations or "forms" do that such as CM, SM, Chakra modes and so on. :sdo:

Sasuke's physically strength does not change with dojutsu, but he received permanent boosts to his base form in the form of his chakra evolving, thus he's still in base.

Naruto's forms differr in the sense that they do give him physical boosts that his base form is unable to access. :sdo:

You literally are one of the dumbest sasuke fans who only argue for the sake of it.
Point is not about physical power, because that isn't even forte of Uchiha's in the first place. You thought only physical transformation is what makes the difference? Lol Dumbo, sasuke's power is eye not body. His eyes are what determines his power. He can use his top techniques without going any physical transformation which is not possible for Naruto. And that's why sasuke is at full power when he's using EMS and Rinnegan.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

If a doujutsu can give you a stronger chakra then it pretty much means that its a stronger form

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During the manga sasuke ms sasuke was stated to have a chakra stronger then CM2, Ems was stated to give a far more powerfull version of chakra by madara and it was thanks to hagoromo's chakra that he was able to awaken the rinnegan so as long he has the rinnegan he has hagoromo's chakra, witch is pretty much all the time.

So no i think you are mistaken if you think they are not giving him more power.

And here you are proving that you didn't actually even bother to read my post properly. :sdo:

I never said that he didn't get stronger from obtaining MS, that's what I was saying the entire time, his physical abilities were boosted up when he awakened his dojutsu, his chakra became stronger when his brain released the chakra which resulted in his eyes reaching MS.

His base form became stronger when his chakra became stronger, it's not that his chakr becomes stronger when he uses his dojutsu as that's illogical because by that logic nagato and obito should automatically have rikudo chakra from the rinnegan they possess when in reality, it the chakra that made the eyes evolve and in turn makes physically stronger because stronger chakra=stronger physically

Sasuke's base form is already enhanced with powerful chakra, activation of his dojutsu does not make him stronger but it makes his performance better that's all there is to it.

correction, they give him forms that people without the transformations can't access aka sausage uchiha.

ITs like the 8 gates, sasuke will never be 8 gates guy speed because he can't open the gates and its impossible to be at that level without them

I don't get what you are trying to say, Sasuke's base form was enhanced yes, but it doesn't not change the fact that it's still his base form.

 

[Detonator99]

The Sharingan to Rinnengan evolution doesn't seem to enhance their speed, power, chakra, stamina etc, it appears to give new jutsu and better eye sight.

Ohh how wrong you are my friend...

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[Jokule67]

What Michael says is true. His Eternal Mangekyou and Rinnegan obviously power up his ninjutsu and chakra and when his eye powers are weakened his jutsu are also weakened. Thats why they clash equally in base. His body's durability also got an apparent boost with Rinnegan.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

You literally are one of the dumbest sasuke fans who only argue for the sake of it.
Point is not about physical power, because that isn't even forte of Uchiha's in the first place. You thought only physical transformation is what makes the difference? Lol Dumbo, sasuke's power is eye not body. His eyes are what determines his power. He can use his top techniques without going any physical transformation which is not possible for Naruto. And that's why sasuke is at full power when he's using EMS and Rinnegan.

And you sir are one of the smartest people I've ever had a discussion with. :elmo:

This thread is about physical strength, Sasuke does not need any of his forms to reach higher physical strength, I didn't say he doesn't need to use his dojutsu against Naruto, I said that the rinnegan did not make him stronger, only the rikudo chakra did. :sdo:

Your reading skills need to be checked mate. :Sparks:

 

[Jokule67]

And here you are proving that you didn't actually even bother to read my post properly. :sdo:

I never said that he didn't get stronger from obtaining MS, that's what I was saying the entire time, his physical abilities were boosted up when he awakened his dojutsu, his chakra became stronger when his brain released the chakra which resulted in his eyes reaching MS.

His base form became stronger when his chakra became stronger, it's not that his chakr becomes stronger when he uses his dojutsu as that's illogical because by that logic nagato and obito should automatically have rikudo chakra from the rinnegan they possess when in reality, it the chakra that made the eyes evolve and in turn makes physically stronger because stronger chakra=stronger physically

Sasuke's base form is already enhanced with powerful chakra, activation of his dojutsu does not make him stronger but it makes his performance better that's all there is to it.


I don't get what you are trying to say, Sasuke's base form was enhanced yes, but it doesn't not change the fact that it's still his base form.

I believe thats false. If Sasuke is as strong with ninjutsu as RSM he should stomp base Naruto but they always clash equally. Meaning his power wanes when his doujutsu is weakened.

 

[-immortal-]

I find it hilarious your still trying to go at it.

Scoop down weeb

 

[Megax Rocker7]

What Michael says is true. His Eternal Mangekyou and Rinnegan obviously power up his ninjutsu and chakra and when his eye powers are weakened his jutsu are also weakened. Thats why they clash equally in base. His body's durability also got an apparent boost with Rinnegan.

This what people do not seem to understand, it's the rikudo chakra Sasuke received from the sage that made him physically stronger, rinnegan is just a result from obtaining said chakra.

Each time Sasuke's eyes evolved his brain released stronger chakra which in turn made himself physically stronger.

People are under the impression that the dojutsu somehow makes your body stronger which is a absolutely illogical.

 

[Senpou]

And you sir are one of the smartest people I've ever had a discussion with. :elmo:

This thread is about physical strength, Sasuke does not need any of his forms to reach higher physical strength, I didn't say he doesn't need to use his dojutsu against Naruto, I said that the rinnegan did not make him stronger, only the rikudo chakra did. :sdo:

Your reading skills need to be checked mate. :Sparks:

Lol wut? Sir, you either have a bad comprehension or didn't read the OP if you believe this thread is about physical strength.

 

[Jokule67]

And you sir are one of the smartest people I've ever had a discussion with. :elmo:

This thread is about physical strength, Sasuke does not need any of his forms to reach higher physical strength, I didn't say he doesn't need to use his dojutsu against Naruto, I said that the rinnegan did not make him stronger, only the rikudo chakra did. :sdo:

Your reading skills need to be checked mate. :Sparks:

This thread is not about physical power. Its about the misconception that base Sasuke=RSM