What's stopping a non-hyuuga from learning jyuuken?

[LoZelda101]

deez nuts

 

[Pyro NB]

Only the byakugan can see chakra network and tenketsu. Hyuga clan are the only ones that can freely manipulate all 361 tenketsu in their body. Sakura using her skill wouldn't be oh I shut down your flow of chakra disabling you but more like oh I blew off your arm.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Nothing. As long as they're trained. Any non-Byakugan user would get beat by a Byakugan user in sheet skill. For Sakura, it wouldn't only be impractical, it would be stupid. Its called Gentle Fist for a reason, and Sakura is anything BUT gentle.

this. Gentle fist is learnable but it's not as effective without byakugan

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade taught Sakura it. She just doesn't use it

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They can use it, and probably more deadlier with chakra scalpel, however gentle fist just isn't as effective as a good punch

Sakura is a medic she know where the points are, and besides, Kabuto was a gentle fist eqsue fighting stle

 

[Kakooli]

Tsunade taught Sakura it. She just doesn't use it

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They can use it, and probably more deadlier with chakra scalpel, however gentle fist just isn't as effective as a good punch

Sakura is a medic she know where the points are, and besides, Kabuto was a gentle fist eqsue fighting stle

You're right, I forgot a lot of things in this manga.

 

[Guntah]

Tsunade taught Sakura it. She just doesn't use it

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They can use it, and probably more deadlier with chakra scalpel, however gentle fist just isn't as effective as a good punch

Sakura is a medic she know where the points are, and besides, Kabuto was a gentle fist eqsue fighting stle

PRETTY SURE that's just a really strong poke.

 

[Xavionl]

the fact that its a clan technique and isnt taught to anyone outside of the clan. i imagine its hard to master from just watching other people use it

 

[neosmith500]

When you put all of this into consideration, it may be possible (at least on paper) for a non-Hyuuga to learn jyuuken. The eyes merely make the process easier but this can be balanced out with perfect chakra control, surgical precision and an encyclopedia of anatomical knowledge, something which Sakura possesses.

Jyuken has the ability to invade and destroy Chakra. Are u saying sakura could do this simply by having great chakra control?

 

[wanderingcactus]

Nothing at all! Well...Intelligence (confirmed dropout), confidence ("Na-Naru-tttto kun!") and willpower aside (Kurenai remarked that she was quick to give up in high pressure situations) there's nothing stopping her.

sakura has asked/said naruto's name more than she has.

also character bashing someone coming from a fan of an irrelevant character is humourous.

like even we, sasuke fans, wont back you up on that.
in fact, many of us kinda hated the fact that they even got paired together especially since her character became more pathetic because she thinks she can keep up with them.

at least hinata knows her place. and would actually do something and stand up (shes great at that since its a required skill for someone that trips and falls like all the time)

im talking about the Pein arc.

Sakura just kept on shouting Naruto to come rescue her.. then she gets this "redemption" crap but its only to bring the team 7 in the end game.

crap writing.

she makes tsunade's character look bad. and you glorify her? her what? uselessness?

she's not even a confirmed mother of sarada. and kishi probably wanted to retcon sasuke's entire relationship.

really wanted to have that happen.

her character would've had more substance and building material to grow into a tolerable character if she was instead been paired up with Lee.

could be Naruto but him and Hinata seemed more appropriate for their past.

Sasuke and Sakura had almost none. except for him telling her how useless she is and how badly he wants to kill her.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

I didn't read a word of op but i assume it involves some dumb sh t like Sakura learning and being better at jyuuken then a hyuga, someone tell me how close I am

 

[UnknownJin]

you got the answer in ur 1st image...

 

[FemmeFatale]

PRETTY SURE that's just a really strong poke.

Same difference , tsunade knows the body pressure point , because she is a medic , if she uses chakra scapel, she can literally do gentle fist.
It's basically what kabuto does, he just lacks precision, because he can't maintain chakra scapel for long , Sakura even use it on two fingers , gentle fist is basically shotting chakra scapel into people , something Sakura can do


Body path way derangement is gentle fist on the nervous system, it's likely tsunade can do something of the sort with other systems

 

[Guntah]

Same difference , tsunade knows the body pressure point , because she is a medic , if she uses chakra scapel, she can literally do gentle fist.
It's basically what kabuto does, he just lacks precision, because he can't maintain chakra scapel for long , Sakura even use it on two fingers , gentle fist is basically shotting chakra scapel into people , something Sakura can do


Body path way derangement is gentle fist on the nervous system, it's likely tsunade can do something of the sort with other systems

There is a big difference in between being able to hit a tenketsu with a Jyuuken blow and knowing how to effectively use the Jyuuken. It requires a style and certain ways of manoeuvring your body to most effectively land a blow. Its the difference in between knowing how to punch someone in a boxer's stance and being a full fledged boxer, essentially.

 

[Jokule67]

You need byakugan to fully master it. It was created by them for Byakugan

 

[Jokule67]

Same difference , tsunade knows the body pressure point , because she is a medic , if she uses chakra scapel, she can literally do gentle fist.
It's basically what kabuto does, he just lacks precision, because he can't maintain chakra scapel for long , Sakura even use it on two fingers , gentle fist is basically shotting chakra scapel into people , something Sakura can do


Body path way derangement is gentle fist on the nervous system, it's likely tsunade can do something of the sort with other systems

Gentle fist does not benefit Tsunade or Sakura. Byakugan lets you see the pressure points and with the Hyugas trained speed with their visual prowess they strike them. Its not easy for even a hyuga to do it with extreme speed and precision. To not have the byakugan is a handicap to the style. It was created by hyuuga, for hyuuga.


Sakura can strike a pressure point yes. But thats far from striking the pressure points of the whole system in a matter of seconds. She would never get even slightly close to mastering gentle fist.

 

[Jokule67]

There is a big difference in between being able to hit a tenketsu with a Jyuuken blow and knowing how to effectively use the Jyuuken. It requires a style and certain ways of manoeuvring your body to most effectively land a blow. Its the difference in between knowing how to punch someone in a boxer's stance and being a full fledged boxer, essentially.

Sakura wouldnt be able to stike a single pressire point in a heated battle. Tsunade maybe strike two and miss the rest. They would %100 SUCK at gentle fist

 

[Guntah]

Sakura wouldnt be able to stike a single pressire point in a heated battle. Tsunade maybe strike two and miss the rest. They would %100 SUCK at gentle fist

Exactly. Because they can strike a single point in Tenketsu, it doesn't at all mean they have the style needed to work with it effectively and make a fighting style out of that.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Whilst the lack of a byakugan is an obvious stumbling block, what's stopping a ninja outside of the hyuuga clan from learning jyuuken? The conditions required to do so match the qualities required of a top-class medical ninja. Let me explain:

These scan below describe the two main conditions for using jyuuken: precise chakra control and surgical precision. This is something that's not out of a medical ninja's reach.

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Who has both of these qualities? Sakura is one good example.

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To be able to locate a small portion of poison inside somebody else's body requires the eye-of-a-needle precision required to use jyuuken

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As does the ability to make an on-the-spot incision near the heart without damaging the patient

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When you consider the fact that as a medical ninja, not only does sakura have the surgical precision and chakra control required to master jyuuken but she also has a vast knowledge of the human body. And let's not forget that the chakra points are wrapped around vital organs.

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When you put all of this into consideration, it may be possible (at least on paper) for a non-Hyuuga to learn jyuuken. The eyes merely make the process easier but this can be balanced out with perfect chakra control, surgical precision and an encyclopedia of anatomical knowledge, something which Sakura possesses.

The fact that your stupid

 

[Guntah]

The fact that your stupid

Jesus...'you're' man. You're.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Exactly. Because they can strike a single point in Tenketsu, it doesn't at all mean they have the style needed to work with it effectively and make a fighting style out of that.

They can't hit Chaka point because they are smaller than the head of a needle