[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[Skull Knight]

And on that part about barto probably reading something that lead him to believe this again has not been shown so your basically reaching for something but I will happily counter. If he did read something from the world government it doesn't make it true the WG said crocodile was defeated by smoker.

well in that same pic barto said 'Zoro butchered entire island in ennie lobby' basically confirmed he read Ennies lobby report in some newspaper, WG published. If that's true then his opinions was forced by WG which is making it look like Zoro is 2nd in command in SH hierarchy.

Said doffy resigned from the war lords. There was a gladiator in dressrosa that said that he heard luffy was 6 feet tall or something of the sort I know it was a tall height. Again none of which is true again opinions and lies in some cases as listed above

Doffy resignation part was Marines-Shichibukai plan to capture Luffy and Law.
Luffy part was just a rumour and if somebody sees part of Luffy gear 3 attack something like this,

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then he/she will also think Luffy is probably a giant

Easy the reason barto said zoro besides the others is really simple because he chose zoro it's no more complicated at all it's a mere opinion doesn't make him right or wrong. I've heard people stupidly say that zoro smarter then sanji it's not like either way has been proven it's a mere opinion neither right or wrong because it hasn't been proven or said by Oda. I've seen in multiple SBS that Oda is asked a question and answers it straight forward if zoro was a vice captain he would just simply have luffy say zoro is vice captain. The only time I've ever seen Oda avoid a question is when it was asked if zoro and sanji were to get into a big fight who would win he completely avoided the question and ended the SBS.

Bro think it this way, everyone in SH crew has a job/role to fill in;
Luffy- Captain
Nami- Navigator
Sanji-Cook
Ussop-Sniper or one who handles cannons
Franky-Shipwright
Chopper-Doctor
Brook-Musician
Robin-Poneglyph decipher
Jinbei-[if he joins] most probably diplomat
Zoro-??? (what role does Zoro has?) It is obviously VC/2nd in command.

 

[loj]

Not everyone has what it takes to be a leader or tell Luffy how to handle things, and I already showed times when Zoro has shown more moments of handling Luffy

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, than anyone else, but you never refuted my post so I guess I was right there.

I can probably show you even more times where Chopper or Nami cried at Luffy's safety.

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of Straw hats. So.. Either Oda didn't writer that chapter or was just wasting panels with stupid dialogues misleading people...or he confirmed it.

Zoro may have started just as an alley but after Thriller bark his character development has been more and more about turning in to first mate as demonstrated on multiple occasions. Usopp on the other hand was out of the race the moment he challenged Luffy, lost and walked out. He got back in to the crew more out of self interest and hasn't developed in to a leader that can take charge of the crew and command Zoro and rest of them in Luffy's absence. Zoro gets that role, whether he cares for the title or not.

This and that bruhh 20 pages of something which is obvious af just 'couse someone can't accept the fact that Zoro is the one Oda is trying to make first mate >_>

 

[BLAZE]

This and that bruhh 20 pages of something which is obvious af just 'couse someone can't accept the fact that Zoro is the one Oda is trying to make first mate >_>

Most people r stubborn like u

 

[loj]

Most people r stubborn like u

Meeh I listened to what he said...just made no sense >_>

 

[Punk Hazard]

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of Straw hats. So.. Either Oda didn't writer that chapter or was just wasting panels with stupid dialogues misleading people...or he confirmed it.

There's a panel of Enel saying "My will alone created the universe." So...Either Oda didn't write that chapter or was just wasting panels with stupid dialogues and misleading people...or he confirmed that Enel's will created the entire One Piece universe.

Zoro may have started just as an alley but after Thriller bark his character development has been more and more about turning in to first mate as demonstrated on multiple occasions. Usopp on the other hand was out of the race the moment he challenged Luffy, lost and walked out. He got back in to the crew more out of self interest and hasn't developed in to a leader that can take charge of the crew and command Zoro and rest of them in Luffy's absence. Zoro gets that role, whether he cares for the title or not.[/QUOTE]

Lmfaoooooo

^^^This is what happens when you try to say something is happening when the manga blatantly states the opposite.

Jean it was implied twice that Zoro is SH firstmate.
Barto said 'Zoro is VC' and this guy travelled with both Luffy and Zoro.

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This proves Marines/Gorosei/Pirates(who make all these titles) in OPverse all thinks Zoro is VC.

Huh? How does the panel of Bartolomeo saying "I consider Zoro the vice-captain" prove that the World Government thinks so?

Kuma and Sabo indirectly implied it too with the former targetting Zoro in Luffy's absence and the latter giving Luffy's vivre card to Zoro. Even the difference in portrayal Zoro gets when it comes to a captain allied partner(Law) is pretty telling. With Sanji and co, he orders them around, with Zoro they lead the team together. But but no... let's ignore all this just for the sake of building up shitting arguments and blaming it on Oda the shitty writer

Or it was because Zoro was the strongest person conscious and the closest person to him. But sure, look deeper into it than what's there.

 

[loj]

I wonder if you read One Piece or you just made a blind eye on ever Zoro moment XD

 

[Punk Hazard]

I wonder if you read One Piece or you just made a blind eye on ever Zoro moment XD

1. Shut the hell up

2. I have an eye for detail and I re-read the series often

3. If I like a character, I pay closer attention to their scenes, and I like Zoro, so he's one of them. I've done the same thing for Law, Luffy, Doflamingo, Whitebeard, Sanji, Kizaru and Akainu in the past, so refer back to number 1.

 

[loj]

Shut the hell up

Literally of all the moments Zoro did you still don't get the idea why people are saying Zoro is the closest to the first mate you'll get in SH's XD

 

[Punk Hazard]

Literally of all the moments Zoro did you still don't get the idea why people are saying Zoro is the closest to the first mate you'll get in SH's XD

Is this supposed to mean something? I know what's there, I see it differently than you do. So what?

 

[loj]

Is this supposed to mean something? I know what's there, I see it differently than you do. So what?

But what Zoro did is way different to what other SH's are doing xd you are consistently trying to put Zoro on same lvl as other SH's but you know damn well that Zoro is acting way different XD

I've seen at least 10+ panels on how Zoro acts differently than other SH's in this thread and you are always trying to put Zoro on same lvl as other SH's saying other characters did the same where they just didn't...

 

[Punk Hazard]

But what Zoro did is way different to what other SH's are doing xd

That's your opinion, and I don't share it.

you are consistently trying to put Zoro on same lvl as other SH's but you know damn well that Zoro is acting way different XD

I don't think he's acting differently, and so what? This is not an argument. You're just finding other ways to say "We have different opinions." Why?

I've seen at least 10+ panels on how Zoro acts differently than other SH's in this thread and you are always trying to put Zoro on same lvl as other SH's saying other characters did the same where they just didn't...

Except there isn't a single panel posted in this thread that shows Zoro acting in some way that another Strawhat hasn't, whether that is good or bad.

You're trying to put Zoro above other characters when he just isn't. See how useless saying shit like that is? Summarizing my argument isn't actually a counterargument.

 

[loj]

That's your opinion, and I don't share it.


I don't think he's acting differently, and so what? This is not an argument. You're just finding other ways to say "We have different opinions." Why?


Except there isn't a single panel posted in this thread that shows Zoro acting in some way that another Strawhat hasn't, whether that is good or bad.

You're trying to put Zoro above other characters when he just isn't. See how useless saying shit like that is? Summarizing my argument isn't actually a counterargument.

>_< just find it funny how you literally the only one saying that after 20 pages...you either don't understand what you are reading or you just made a blind eye on everything Oda made Zoro do XD

 

[Punk Hazard]

>_< just find it funny how you literally the only one saying that after 20 pages...you either don't understand what you are reading or you just made a blind eye on everything Oda made Zoro do XD

Or it's the fact that Zoro receives the biggest circlejerk from this forum.

 

[loj]

Or it's the fact that Zoro receives the biggest circlejerk from this forum.

Meeh more like the fact that Oda is throwing facts to your face but you deny it 'cause he is more popular

 

[Punk Hazard]

Meeh more like the fact that Oda is throwing facts to your face but you deny it 'cause he is more popular

Good job taking my comment out of context.

Funny how all the good stuff is throwing facts, but then you same group ignore when other Strawhats do the same things, or when Zoro messes up.

 

[loj]

Good job taking my comment out of context.

Funny how all the good stuff is throwing facts, but then you same group ignore when other Strawhats do the same things, or when Zoro messes up.

Out of context but other SH's didn't do the same things as Zoro...when Zoro messes up...cool...tell me more how other SH's doesn't mess up :lol

If Water 7 moment and Thriller Bark moment isn't enough for you to click why Oda is putting Zoro in that role then bruh...re-read it again...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Out of context but other SH's didn't do the same things as Zoro...when Zoro messes up...cool...tell me more how other SH's doesn't mess up :lol

Not going over this for the tenth ****ing time with you. I hope to God English isn't your first language.

If Water 7 moment and Thriller Bark moment isn't enough for you to click why Oda is putting Zoro in that role then bruh...re-read it again...

Sanji's moment at Water 7 was just as intense, and the Thriller Bark moment is reduced due to the fact that an island full of people they met just that day chose to die for Luffy.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Zoro is the unconfirmed first mate , everyone knows this. There is no need to spend 20 pages on something so obvious.

 

[Avani]

There's a panel of Enel saying "My will alone created the universe." So...Either Oda didn't write that chapter or was just wasting panels with stupid dialogues and misleading people...or he confirmed that Enel's will created the entire One Piece universe.

You should be able to distinguish between a statement meant to bluff and a statement based on observation without a personal stake in it. It will be helpful.

As I said elsewhere this argument reminds me of the Internet fans who used to ague that Naruto was not Minato's son and that there was no proof of it. That debate didn't end till the Pain arc and Minato's appearance. I suppose people wait for a similar moment here too.

 

[Punk Hazard]

You should be able to distinguish between a statement meant to bluff and a statement based on observation without a personal stake in it. It will be helpful.

As I said elsewhere this argument reminds me of the Internet fans who used to ague that Naruto was not Minato's son and that there was no proof of it. That debate didn't end till the Pain arc and Minato's appearance. I suppose people wait for a similar moment here too.

They follow the same concept: Just because a character says it, doesn't make it true. Oda has similar panels of people saying that Luffy is 20-feet tall. There's one of a man saying he's an 8-foot tall monster. Are these true as well, just because Oda wrote them saying it?

Until Zoro is explicitly stated to be the vice-captain, then he's not.