Whos more powerful jj obito or drsm madara

[The Necromancer]

....really? That's a shame. He would've failed.

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Obito said they only had a few minutes before IT.

Madara as shown after Obito was defeated, was here.

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If Madara was telling the truth about the Infinite Tsukuyomi thing, then that's kinda disapointing, because if Naruto and Sasuke hadn't beaten Obito, I had no idea how he would've made his way out of there, gotten Hashi's Sage Mode (which I don't even think he can do as an undead) and beaten Obito in time to cast his own IT.

This is why I hate madara.

He gets so much praise, but througout the entire manga he's had the worst plans of any villain, and has gained everything by stepping on the shoulders of people who actually got something done, or was lucky enough to be the pawn of a man who was actually proactive in his planning.

Madara might be the dumbest character in the manga.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Double Rinnegan ? Limbo GG...

Juubito can sense that.
+6 red barrier and giant Bijuu Bombs...
Madara doesn't have S/T to counter that.
Obito has long ranged Kamui.
He can obliterate Madara

 

[Holy God]

Nah, I don't think so. IMO you're giving Madara a bit too much credit.

Obito's only real threat to Madara is the Sword of Nunoboko, which only has mythical power that cannot be proven. Perhaps you're not giving him enough credit?

 

[The Necromancer]

Obito's only real threat to Madara is the Sword of Nunoboko, which only has mythical power that cannot be proven. Perhaps you're not giving him enough credit?

What? Are you serious?

 

[Holy God]

What? Are you serious?

Am I forgetting something?

 

[The Necromancer]

Am I forgetting something?

Obito is faster.
Obito has 3 Juubidamas at a time. Effortlessly.
Obito has Crimson Barriers Madara can't escape from.
Obito has Gudoudamas Madara can't survive a blow from.
Obito has Full Body Kamui. Offensively and Defensively.
Obito has more canon Rinnegan paths available than Madara does.
Obito can fly.
Obito has better reaction speeds than Minato and Tobirama.
Obito's durability is through the roof.
Obito has a near limitless chakra pool.
Obito has Infinite Tsukuyomi.
Obito has near perfect regeneration.

That's all just off the top of my head.

 

[Holy God]

Obito is faster.

Madara can track him with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan/Rinnegan.

Obito has 3 Juubidamas at a time. Effortlessly.

Easily dodged.

Obito has Crimson Barriers Madara can't escape from.

If I'm not mistaken, Madara can travel through the ground using Wood Style? Even if not, being trapped has no use anyways.

Obito has Gudoudamas Madara can't survive a blow from.

He won't be directly hit by one.

Obito has Full Body Kamui. Offensively and Defensively.

No, he doesn't.

Obito has more canon Rinnegan paths available than Madara does.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken Obito hasn't shown a single one? He can't even handle two eyes.

Obito can fly.

As can Madara.

Obito has better reaction speeds than Minato and Tobirama.

So does one-eyed Madara.

Obito's durability is through the roof.

Not really.

Obito has a near limitless chakra pool.

But not many good techniques to choose from.

Obito has Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Ineffective.

 

[The Necromancer]

Madara can track him with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan/Rinnegan.


Easily dodged.


If I'm not mistaken, Madara can travel through the ground using Wood Style? Even if not, being trapped has no use anyways.


He won't be directly hit by one.


No, he doesn't.


Actually, if I'm not mistaken Obito hasn't shown a single one? He can't even handle two eyes.


As can Madara.


So does one-eyed Madara.


Not really.


But not many good techniques to choose from.


Ineffective.

I didn't even read past your first response. Get a clue, dude.

 

[Holy God]

I didn't even read past your first response. Get a clue, dude.

That is an inadequate response. The only clue this has given me is that you can't reason Obito defeating Madara so easily.

 

[The Necromancer]

That is an inadequate response. The only clue this has given me is that you can't reason Obito defeating Madara so easily.

No amount of denial will make your opinion true.

Literally just read the manga.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

I didn't even read past your first response. Get a clue, dude.

Read his full comment.
He makes sense

 

[Holy God]

No amount of denial will make your opinion true.

Literally just read the manga.

The only thing in the manga about the two directly is Madara saying he had the capability to stop Obito. Your use of insulting will not make your opinion true.

 

[Demonic.]

I didn't even read past your first response. Get a clue, dude.

Why wouldn't Madara be able to track him when Sasuke and Naruto could?

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[The Necromancer]

Why wouldn't Madara be able to track him when Sasuke and Naruto could?

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Didn't say he couldn't. Just that Obito is faster, and can strike Madara faster than he has ever been shown to react.

He has already struck the fastest people in the manga.

Even in that scan they could barely even track him, let alone strike him or prevent him from striking them.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

The only thing in the manga about the two directly is Madara saying he had the capability to stop Obito. Your use of insulting will not make your opinion true.

Madara says a lot of crap, that doesn't make it true.

 

[Holy God]

Madara says a lot of crap, that doesn't make it true.

It makes it more credible.

 

[The Necromancer]

It makes it more credible.

Does that honestly make sense to you in your mind?

 

[Guntah]

Obito's only real threat to Madara is the Sword of Nunoboko, which only has mythical power that cannot be proven. Perhaps you're not giving him enough credit?

No, I don't think so. We're talking about Edo Madara (Really, can he get Senjutsu???) taking down Obito at his JJ state within only a matter of minutes. Even if we're talking about a fair, one on one fight in accordance to this thread, nothing short of a Senjutsu enhanced perfect Susanoo could break through Obito's Gudoudama constructs seeing as Naruto's and Minato's biggest combined Rasengan with Senjutsu could only stalemate. And even then, Obito's at an advantage. He's a small, quickly moving target with constantly reusable gudoudama constructs while Madara is a massive target with his Susanoo which if damaged, will be very, very hard to reconstruct. JJ Obito has his Rinnegan, so if a Limbo appears, he sees it. Being the Juubi Jin, he also has the means to damage them, so they would be just as effective as clones in this case.

 

[Waltz]

It makes it more credible.

Madara's claim on him being able to stop Obito after acquiring what he deemed necessary to execute; is something he hypothesized as he lacked exposure which means the statement isn't accurate. What further testifies to this is the fact that Madara himself knew that even if he had acquired this power he would have trouble even just weakening Obito.

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[baul 24]

only logical answer is madara skill level and experience on battlefield is on entirely different league how he soloed all shinobies including naruto and sasuke when he was just blind and accomplished feat that took akatsuki years to achieve i.e sealing tailed beasts he did in one panel no offence but he is more dangerous when he is collective and not reckless, obito may be strong powerwise but still i think double rinnegan sm alive madara is powerful