Six Paths of Pain vs Prime Itachi

[Guntah]

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Location is the Lightning Desert.

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Itachi is disease free and with a brand new Mangekyo pair of eyes with all his techs. Starting distance is 100 feet.

Who wins?

 

[KidGamer65]

Itachi has a high chance to win, but I favor Pain. It all depends on knowledge and some other things tbh.

 

[Guntah]

Itachi has a high chance to win, but I favor Pain. It all depends on knowledge and some other things tbh.

I really think Pain wins unless Itachi has full knowledge.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Pain can fall for genjutsu but I really do feel like he gets overwhelmed by the sheer variety and numbers. Remember how long a fully prepared SM Naruto, Kyuubi, Konoha, Ma/Pa Toad and Toad Trio took to defeat him? The fight goes on for a bloody while, no matter how you look at it and a while is something Itachi can't sustain Susanoo-wise.

Bad matchup. Equal ninja.

 

[ComplexCity]

Pain can fall for genjutsu but I really do feel like he gets overwhelmed by the sheer variety and numbers. Remember how long a fully prepared SM Naruto, Kyuubi, Konoha, Ma/Pa Toad and Toad Trio took to defeat him? The fight goes on for a bloody while, no matter how you look at it and a while is something Itachi can't sustain Susanoo-wise.

Bad matchup. Equal ninja.

How do dead bodies fall for Visual Genjutsu? Nagato saw through them

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

How do dead bodies fall for Visual Genjutsu?

I mean technically Toad Confrontation Chant is a sound-based genjutsu but still.

 

[ComplexCity]

I mean technically Toad Confrontation Chant is a sound-based genjutsu but still.

I understand which is dumb and shows Kishi's inconsistency (their body tempertuare was stated to be cold despite running around like live people. The hypothalamus in the brain controls body temperature meaning that their brains must still be active, which is the only explanation why the soudn genjutsu worked), however, it was show that Nagato views through the paths, it's not as if their visual sense is intact so by this logic, visual genjutsu should be casted on Nagato and there's never been an instance in the manga where there was a medium used to cast genjutsu on another person

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I understand which is dumb and shows Kishi's inconsistency (their body tempertuare was stated to be cold despite running around like live people. The hypothalamus in the brain controls body temperature meaning that their brains must still be active, which is the only explanation why the soudn genjutsu worked), however, it was show that Nagato views through the paths, it's not as if their visual sense is intact so by this logic, visual genjutsu should be casted on Nagato and there's never been an instance in the manga where there was a medium used to cast genjutsu on another person

This is true and i've seen it argued before that it would genjutsu all of them because of shared vision but

I think you have to excuse biology when ninja are anything but human and these ninja are a.) not rotting b.)being controlled by a magical entity to run around all because of some piercings. I think it gets a pass.

Edo bodies and animated Pain corpses were left very ambiguous.

 

[ComplexCity]

This is true and i've seen it argued before that it would genjutsu all of them because of shared vision but

I think you have to excuse biology when ninja are anything but human and these ninja are a.) not rotting b.)being controlled by a magical entity to run around all because of some piercings. I think it gets a pass.

Edo bodies and animated Pain corpses were left very ambiguous.

I'm not one to give feats to that which don't exist. Had there been no explanation on the "shared vision" I'd be incline to believe that. We know Genjutsu affects the chakara. When the Gakido absorbed SM Naruto's chakara, Nagato didn't give that back which in turn shows that their bodies are individual. There is no reason to believe that they can be genjutsued in the first place

 

[LoZelda101]

itachi wins.

I see no reason why he can't amaterasu sweep most of the pains then proceed to summon 2 clones to fight against preta and deva.

 

[Guntah]

itachi wins.

I see no reason why he can't amaterasu sweep most of the pains then proceed to summon 2 clones to fight against preta and deva.

Amaterasu can easily be absorbed by Preta and healed by Naraka. Pain can also detect the pressure building up for Amaterasu, giving him the possibility to dodge or intercept it. Two clones also ain't nearly enough to hold down the six paths.

 

[LoZelda101]

Amaterasu can easily be absorbed by Preta and healed by Naraka. Pain can also detect the pressure building up for Amaterasu, giving him the possibility to dodge or intercept it. Two clones also ain't nearly enough to hold down the six paths.

nonsense. noticed I said amaterasu sweep. absorbing the flames will only protect him not his other paths. sensing pressure build up is meaningless, none of those paths are fast enough to dodge them, at best they'll shield one another while deva/preta do their obvious counter. after they're demantled, itachi's clones will easily dismantle preta path in cqc, while the other clone crow/or SC explosion feint deva for the real itachi to close in on him from behind with totsuka. nagato is much better off using rinnegan on his own with no limitation then 6 pains who pale in comparison.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

itachi wins.

I see no reason why he can't amaterasu sweep most of the pains then proceed to summon 2 clones to fight against preta and deva.

ey man, check ME out defending itachi

are you proud yet father

 

[LoZelda101]

ey man, check ME out defending itachi

are you proud yet father

good for you, as for me I've lately been defending dr.snakes as well:bdpf:

 

[Exaar]

How do dead bodies fall for Visual Genjutsu? Nagato saw through them

Even if he can be affected by visual genjutsu, Logically due to his ocular power far surpassing Itachi's, he should be heavily resistant to visual genjutsu.

Even if i am wrong, he still has an sensor technique that is his Sensing rain technique also known as Ukojizai no Jutsu. I mean technically he can fight avoiding eye contact with this jutsu or other forms of visual genjutsu, No?

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Rain Tiger? at Will Technique (雨虎自在の術, Ukojizai no Jutsu)
Ninjutsu, No rank, Supplementary, All ranges
User: Pain

Is this heavenly net of rain, falling down and enclosing, the tears of a god grieving for his village?

A perception ninjutsu, allowing one to freely manipulate rain infused with the user's own chakra. In the village of Amegakure, it rains each week on Sunday... This rain falls from rain clouds, formed with Pain's own chakra. During this technique, the falling raindrops are closely linked to pain's senses. When the rain is obstructed by a chakra belonging to someone not of the village, the existence of the intruder can be detected. Also, in order to function in the "place" where the technique was invoked, the rain will keep on falling until Pain uses the seal to cancel it. Therefore, when Pain leaves the village, he always uses this technique, keeping a close eye on the village of Amegakure.

[picture of Pain using this technique]
→When Pain unleashes the technique, the rain falls. The hunt for intruders begins...

Covering the village is a strict, vigilant net!!

[picture of the rain falling down on Amegakure]
↑The rain seems convenient for infiltrating. However, it is a definite trap.

? The tiger is well-known for its ferocity and watchfulness. It keeps a very close guard on its cubs, watches vigilantly for an opportunity to catch its pray, and walks huge distances to patrol its territory.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

good for you, as for me I've lately been defending dr.snakes as well:bdpf:

It's as if they're very similar characters. Similarly powered, same age, used weapons who suffered with mental trauma, specialised in their craft and are both broken asf if you look carefully.

 

[LoZelda101]

Even if he can be affected by visual genjutsu, logically due to his ocular power far surpassing Itachi's, he should be heavily resistant to visual genjutsu.
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Even if i am wrong, he still has an sensor technique that is his Sensing rain technique also known as Ukojizai no Jutsu. I mean technically he can fight avoiding eye contact with this jutsu or other forms of visual genjutsu, No?

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Rain Tiger? at Will Technique (雨虎自在の術, Ukojizai no Jutsu)
Ninjutsu, No rank, Supplementary, All ranges
User: Pain

Is this heavenly net of rain, falling down and enclosing, the tears of a god grieving for his village?

A perception ninjutsu, allowing one to freely manipulate rain infused with the user's own chakra. In the village of Amegakure, it rains each week on Sunday... This rain falls from rain clouds, formed with Pain's own chakra. During this technique, the falling raindrops are closely linked to pain's senses. When the rain is obstructed by a chakra belonging to someone not of the village, the existence of the intruder can be detected. Also, in order to function in the "place" where the technique was invoked, the rain will keep on falling until Pain uses the seal to cancel it. Therefore, when Pain leaves the village, he always uses this technique, keeping a close eye on the village of Amegakure.

[picture of Pain using this technique]
→When Pain unleashes the technique, the rain falls. The hunt for intruders begins...

Covering the village is a strict, vigilant net!!

[picture of the rain falling down on Amegakure]
↑The rain seems convenient for infiltrating. However, it is a definite trap.

? The tiger is well-known for its ferocity and watchfulness. It keeps a very close guard on its cubs, watches vigilantly for an opportunity to catch its pray, and walks huge distances to patrol its territory.

bold is complete and utter fanfic. if you want to play the "logic" game, itachi is uchiha,
he should logically be stronger in a dojutsu battle than any other non uchiha.

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It's as if they're very similar characters. Similarly powered, same age, used weapons who suffered with mental trauma, specialised in their craft and are both broken asf if you look carefully.

i'm aware, itachi wouldn't shut up about their comparison. :lol

 

[Exaar]

bold is complete and utter fanfic. if you want to play the "logic" game, itachi is uchiha,
he should logically be stronger in a dojutsu battle than any other non uchiha.

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It's not Fanfic.
In terms of ocular power 1 Tomoe < 2 Tomoe < 3 Tomoe < Ms < EMS < Rinnegan < Tomoed Rinnegan

@Bold, The power of the Rinnegan is so great that a member of the Uchiha with Senju dna could barely handle the power of a single rinnegan, While Nagato a Non-uchiha could handle two as a child.

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[Guntah]

nonsense. noticed I said amaterasu sweep. absorbing the flames will only protect him not his other paths. sensing pressure build up is meaningless, none of those paths are fast enough to dodge them, at best they'll shield one another while deva/preta do their obvious counter. after they're demantled, itachi's clones will easily dismantle preta path in cqc, while the other clone crow/or SC explosion feint deva for the real itachi to close in on him from behind with totsuka. nagato is much better off using rinnegan on his own with no limitation then 6 pains who pale in comparison.

Pain was fast enough to dodge Rasenshuriken, Amaterasu won't be a problem if he can see it coming Clones sent at Preta Path would be Ninjutsu, and Ninjutsu can be absorbed. Create a Preta Barrier as they attack and the clones are done. Itachi getting behind him is also nearly impossible if he has not only his six paths looking at him, but all the Animal Path summons looking out for him.

 

[LoZelda101]

It's not Fanfic.
In terms of ocular power 1 Tomoe < 2 Tomoe < 3 Tomoe < Ms < EMS < Rinnegan < Tomoed Rinnegan

@Bold, The power of the Rinnegan is so great that a member of the Uchiha with Senju dna could barely handle the power of a single rinnegan, While Nagato a Non-uchiha could handle two as a child.

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I don't think you understand. uchiha clan are descendants of indra who was born with the sage's eyes. by default they have powerful chakra, which outclasses anyone who doesn't. if you're trying to imply that eyes is more valuable than potent chakra then you're in for some bad news lol. mangekyou uchiha potential = rinnegan by itself. the only reason nagato can muster both eyes is simply due to his life force and large quantity of chakra reserves, tl:dr just means he can handle it.


as for the bold, it is fanfic. sasuke already established 3t sharingan can handle MS

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and chakra wise, DMS kakashi able to push back rinne-sharingan kaguya

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so this whole rinnegan> sharingan. is complete and utter outdated fanfic made from some
inaccurate myth jiraiya found that turns out to be flawed ever since kaguya's and her dojutus's introduction.