[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[Punk Hazard]

That was just one instance but he has also been shown to give Luffy advice and tell him what is best during dire situations.

Also, during Punk Hazard when he said that they shouldn't fool around anymore and start getting serious since this is the new world. Zoro has shown at times to tell Luffy to pull his head together, and him being worried that he might do something stupid so he questions it.




Not saying that the bounty matters, but I hardly see Vice Captains with low bounties and Zoro has always been close to Luffy when it comes to bounties so that should be a small sign.

No one in the crew specifically assigned someone to be Vice-Captain.
Zoro seems to be the 2nd strongest so we tend to correlate that with vice-captain status, but that ain't always right. Also, a lot of people in OP have this thing for Zoro. Always making comments about "why he isn't the captain?" and "how is he so strong?"

Bartolommeo refers to him as the Vice-Captain in his point of view. Until Oda confirms with what Bartolomeo says to be true, we'll keep making our own assumptions. But seeing as how Oda has made many people assume Zoro as VC, he must be feeling something about Zoro being VC.

List every single one of these situations.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

When did Oda officially put zoro in charge at thriller bark zoro wasn't barking any orders it was a group fight. And at water 7 when luffy threatened usopp to leave the crew it was sanji who kicked luffy and made sure he stopped in his tracks before he could finish his statement. And zoro and sanji are equal no reason to even argue that it would be a waste of time to go into that.

To be fair he was leading most of the offense in Enies Lobby, Same with Thriller park ( againt oz mainly and later against kuma). It is worth mentioning that sanji stands next to him quite often though(which in one piece verse is sign of sync)

 

[-Akuma-]

That was just one instance but he has also been shown to give Luffy advice and tell him what is best during dire situations.

Also, during Punk Hazard when he said that they shouldn't fool around anymore and start getting serious since this is the new world. Zoro has shown at times to tell Luffy to pull his head together, and him being worried that he might do something stupid so he questions it.




Not saying that the bounty matters, but I hardly see Vice Captains with low bounties and Zoro has always been close to Luffy when it comes to bounties so that should be a small sign.

No one in the crew specifically assigned someone to be Vice-Captain.
Zoro seems to be the 2nd strongest so we tend to correlate that with vice-captain status, but that ain't always right. Also, a lot of people in OP have this thing for Zoro. Always making comments about "why he isn't the captain?" and "how is he so strong?"

Bartolommeo refers to him as the Vice-Captain in his point of view. Until Oda confirms with what Bartolomeo says to be true, we'll keep making our own assumptions. But seeing as how Oda has made many people assume Zoro as VC, he must be feeling something about Zoro being VC.

Zoro has been the cloest* You fgoret Luffy had over double of Zoro's bounty at one point and over triple at another.

 

[Dannie]

List every single one of these situations.

There's over 800 chapters, you think I'm about to go back and search for all those instances?

 

[RJ22BIG]

To be fair he was leading most of the offense in Enies Lobby, Same with Thriller park ( againt oz mainly and later against kuma). It is worth mentioning that sanji stands next to him quite often though(which in one piece verse is sign of sync)

By leading the offense you mean he was attacking more that's not leading that's just attacking more. In the situation with kuma he was called out by name and zoro stated since he challenged me I will not back down. In the oz fight that was the straw hats doing what they do best working as a team everybody was calling plays. Even chopper was a strategist in the oz fight so was usopp and sanji.

 

[Punk Hazard]

There's over 800 chapters, you think I'm about to go back and search for all those instances?

You should be able to remember them. Just list them, you don't have to post scans.

 

[A v i]

"Or else I'll leave the crew" that is not a decision, it was a threat which luffy could have ignored if he wanted but didnt

I will leave the crew if you don't accept my decision and I'll leave the crew if you let someone step on your pride aren't even remotely close to being same thing. Zoro's statement did compound in making the crew understand the seriousness of the situation. But it had nothing to do with the point of him making an arbitrary decision. He just warned Luffy that he'd leave the crew if he doesn't honer his pride as the captain. It's not like he blackmailed Luffy or anything.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

By leading the offense you mean he was attacking more that's not leading that's just attacking more. In the situation with kuma he was called out by name and zoro stated since he challenged me I will not back down. In the oz fight that was the straw hats doing what they do best working as a team everybody was calling plays. Even chopper was a strategist in the oz fight so was usopp and sanji.

By leading I literally mean leading as in running infront of everyone, Engaging battles first (fodderwise). They did work as team but zoro got a whole brief fight with him in 1v1(you can argue that sanji did as well but it was much shorter). I do see your point but in groups zoro tend to be presented as the main figure with sanji next him from time to time (not always), whether it's due to his violent nature, fight loving attitude or straight up "flashy " moves I don't kbow, but he is given more attention in these rare cases where he is drawn in that state

I will leave the crew if you don't accept my decision and I'll leave the crew if you let someone step on your pride aren't even remotely close to being same thing. Zoro's statement did compound in making the crew understand the seriousness of the situation. But it had nothing to do with the point of him making an arbitrary decision. He just warned Luffy that he'd leave the crew if he doesn't honer his pride as the captain. It's not like he blackmailed Luffy or anything.

His decision is to not let usopp step on the Captains pride thus what you sakd is the exact same thing with different wording lol

And I doubt zoro is childish enough to use that as a method to appear "serious", plus it was meaningless to do so just right after some of the members had objected his suggestion if it was not meant to intimidate luffy to accept his condition aka the petty apology

 

[A v i]

"Always the one making decisions" implies it's something Zoro is constantly doing, so yeah, my question stands.

I see, My bad. I haven't seen the other dudes quote yet. Well, there were a few other instances when Zoro made decisions in Luffy's absence but I don't think they actually contribute much.

For example;

-It was Zoro who decided to go along with Law's decision on behalf of SH's. [

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-Something similar happened with Robin as well. [

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His decision is to not let usopp step on the Captains pride thus what you sakd is the exact same thing with different wording lol

And I doubt zoro is childish enough to use that as a method to appear "serious", plus it was meaningless to do so just right after some of the members had objected his suggestion if it was not meant to intimidate luffy to accept his condition aka the petty apology

They're technically same in a away, But just in this case. What Zoro asked for is to honer his dignity as the crews captain. So, If Zoro leaves the crew, It is because his captains title has been stepped on not because his decision is declined. But they just happened to be same thing in this case. If Luffy declines a decision of Zoro and it doesn't effect Luffy's dignity in anyway, Do you think Zoro will get mad and leave the crew? He obviously won't do that.


I didn't say Zoro used it to sound serious, I said it contributed in making them understand the seriousness of the situation at hand as Nami and others took it lightly at first. I would like to also point out that Nami tried to make excuses (Akin to what she did with Luffy when he expelled Usopp) rather than condemning his decision which insinuates that she obeys Zoro.

 

[RJ22BIG]

By leading I literally mean leading as in running infront of everyone, Engaging battles first (fodderwise). They did work as team but zoro got a whole brief fight with him in 1v1(you can argue that sanji did as well but it was much shorter). I do see your point but in groups zoro tend to be presented as the main figure with sanji next him from time to time (not always), whether it's due to his violent nature, fight loving attitude or straight up "flashy " moves I don't kbow, but he is given more attention in these rare cases where he is drawn in that state


In the case of zoro getting more attention that is true your absolutely right about that, but that in itself doesn't highlight the leader especially when him and sanji are side by side more times then not. Even when kuma asked for luffy's head for everyone else's safety it was zoro and sanji standing side by side in front of him and declining together in the same picture frame. My only argument is that they are both the second in command in the absence of the main protagonist which is luffy. Even going so far as to both offer up their lives for his and stating their future statuses. None the less you make great points not just saying bogus bias things like other people tend to do

 

[Dannie]

You should be able to remember them. Just list them, you don't have to post scans.

>Zoro telling Luffy to deal with Usopp the appropriate way and that

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. Zoro gave Luffy advice.

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These are the only ones I could remember, but surely this is much more credit than any other crew member has done when it comes to loyalty and decision making for the SH's besides Luffy of course.

 

[ToshiZO]

I see, My bad. I haven't see the other dudes quote yet. Well, there were a few other instances when Zoro made decisions in Luffy's absence but I don't think they actually contribute much.

For example;

-It was Zoro who decided to go along with Law's decision on behalf of SH's. [

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-Something similar happened with Robin as well. [

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They're technically same in a away, But just in this case. What Zoro asked for is to honer his dignity as the crews captain. So, If Zoro leaves the crew, It is because his captains title has been stepped on not because his decision is declined. But they just happened to be same thing in this case. If Luffy declines a decision of Zoro and it doesn't effect Luffy's dignity in anyway, Do you think Zoro will get mad and leave the crew? He obviously won't do that.


I didn't say Zoro used it to sound serious, I said it contributed in making them understand the seriousness of the situation at hand as Nami and others took it lightly at first. I would like to also point out that Nami tried to make excuses (Akin to what she did with Luffy when he expelled Usopp) rather than condemning his decision which insinuates that she obeys Zoro.

In the absence of Luffy, both Robin and Usopp are asking Zoro on what to do next as he leads the way. This is with Law there but he doesn't get to make the decisions for the strawhats, so the other strawhats check with Zoro....interesting, and this was very recent.

 

[RJ22BIG]

In the absence of Luffy, both Robin and Usopp are asking Zoro on what to do next as he leads the way. This is with Law there but he doesn't get to make the decisions for the strawhats, so the other strawhats check with Zoro....interesting, and this was very recent.

I'm sorry when did usopp and robin ask zoro what to do? I really have to see that please

 

[A v i]

I'm sorry when did usopp and robin ask zoro what to do? I really have to see that please

I posted scans in my previous post.

In the absence of Luffy, both Robin and Usopp are asking Zoro on what to do next as he leads the way. This is with Law there but he doesn't get to make the decisions for the strawhats, so the other strawhats check with Zoro....interesting, and this was very recent.

One of the most if not the most overlooked VC Zoro movement would be this. [

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] Chopper immediately reaches Zoro as soon as Luffy refused to listen to him when he tried to advocate for Usopp. He didn't ask Sanji or Nami to support him, I guess that says something.

 

[RJ22BIG]

I posted scans in my previous post.

Lmao so by zoro saying lets go into the town and usopp saying are you sure that's looking to zoro for the next move. Lol all he said was are you sure that's not looking for advice or direction. I can understand if he said zoro what do you think we should do or something of the sort but none of that happened

 

[Hexuze]

Zoro even though he doesn't act like it as much as he did pre-TS. His character has been pretty bland now.

 

[A v i]

Lmao so by zoro saying lets go into the town and usopp saying are you sure that's looking to zoro for the next move. Lol all he said was are you sure that's not looking for advice or direction. I can understand if he said zoro what do you think we should do or something of the sort but none of that happened

What actually happened there is (that) Law suggested to go to Right Belly Forest as they were told by Wada, Then Usopp asks Zoro if it is okay to go along with the decision, Then Zoro approved it on behalf of SH's and Usopp followed his lead.

 

[RJ22BIG]

What actually happened there is (that) Law suggested to go to Right Belly Forest as they were told by Wada, Then Usopp asks Zoro if it is okay to go along with the decision, Then Zoro approved it on behalf of SH's and Usopp followed his lead.

Zoro said if we countinue forward there is a town ahead usopp asked are you sure zoro replies why not it beats listening to strange animals referencing to Wanda telling them to go to the forest. I highly doubt any of the straw hats would ask zoro on where to go we all know how bad he is with direction so that wasn't the case

 

[Bogard]

This thread wasn't needed. It just favorizes insecurity. Anyone with common sense and reading comprehension should already know this by now

 

[HashiraMadara]

Thread over.