The modern alien abduction theory revisited

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A while back, I made a thread about the new theory about aliens, but I wanted to write a new one based on more ideas I've heard on the topic. To recap the old theory:

A lot of people agree that alien abductions are a real occurrence around the world. These abductions are being reported in great numbers and by many reliable sources. Surely the number not reported far exceeds those that were reported, so certainly the occurrence is even more common than we think. The important thing to note about these abduction stories is the consistency between what happens to them. Random people that have never met or even considered the possibility of abductions find themselves having experienced the very same thing. Most commonly, the reason they were abducted was for their DNA. Whether its a man or a woman, they are quite literally having their DNA harvested from them, specifically reproductive DNA. There are even reports of women being impregnated with alien DNA and having the baby taken from them at a later time.

TL:DR of the above; abductees are being taken in order to harvest DNA from them. The most important question to ask from this is why would some alien race need our DNA?

This is what I made the first thread about. The idea is that an alien race, like ours, evolved to the point of being almost completely sterile. Think about our evolution. Imagine if our race lived another 10,000 years. Imagine if we lived another 100,000 years or even a few million years. How would our bodies look? How would we evolve?

The possible outcome of a couple million years of evolution might be a human race that looks very much like the classic 'Gray' alien. You know the one, with giant heads, big eyes, puny and pale bodies. If we were to evolve to this point, perhaps we'd become sterile. So an alien race, very much like our own, might have found our planet and are using us for the sake of saving their own race, but interbreeding with us.

Hybrids of these two races would most likely be fertile. These fertile hybrids could be placed back into their race and, in a sense, buy their race time. In order to make a significant difference, the amount of hybridization that goes on would have to be pretty widespread, hence the amount of time and abductees we are being presented with.

TL:DR again; a humanoid alien race that has evolved for millions of years may have evolved to the point of being almost completely sterile. They could very well have found our planet, perhaps after thousands upon thousands of years of searching, and after confirming hybrids could be made, now use us in order to reverse the sterilization process that plagues them.

Now this is just one theory. Another theory is that these 'aliens' are actually us from the future. As I said above, perhaps our evolution might lead to us looking like 'Gray' aliens, but I find this theory too hard to believe.

However, it could be that our race evolved elsewhere on another planet in another solar system. A race evolved enough for interstellar travel may be able to sew the seeds of life on other planets. It could be that once this race evolved enough, it began to seed life on other planets and see if they'd be able to evolve. We could be a planet of beings that was created by another planet, created solely for being harvested for our DNA later. We could be a very rare, successful, case of this experimentation. In such a case, we would actually be the aliens.

I hope people can keep an open mind about this and if you read the whole thread, I thank you for your patience. If this sort of idea interests you, please don't hesitate to give your own take on the idea. Thanks for reading.
 

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These aliens are so damn sneaky to hang around since 12000 BC + and still playing hide and sneak. What a long mission they have....


Frankly I think most of these theories are started by people who just want to believe it. Alien theories have become alternative for religious theories for them.

I had heard of how Egyptian pyramids were built by the aliens for a long time. Recently I came across a few videos where they tried to convince us that ancient Indian civilization too was built by aliens. It's just -_-
 
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The 'theories' at the very beginning suffer from a severe Argumentum ad Ignorantium. Really? Alien Abductions are a real occurrence around the world? There must be a system where data has been collected to assert such a claim if it's so widely agreed upon!
 

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Basically million year old alien society = less genetic diversity over time = stagnated/infertile DNA pool.
Those types of animals would've be disadvantaged here on Earth alone. That essentially shows how aliens could work around natural selection. But that doesn't mean I believe in these mere conspiracies, that's just what I got out of it.
 

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-Aliens exist, statistically.
-Alien abductions are not happening.
-"Extraterrestrial" claims vary based on the time period. Where as 2000 years ago, people would swear they were possessed by a demon, today people swear they were abducted by aliens.

It's all bias based on a lack of understanding.
 

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Okay, lets see all the things you assume with no proof in this theory:
1: Aliens Exist
2: Aliens have contacted us
3: Aliens have somehow kept secret for thousands of years
4: Aliens Abduct people
5: People believe #4
6: Aliens are sterile
7: Aliens can interbreed with humans, despite evolving on different freaking planets.
8: Hybrids would be able to breed.
9: This is the best way the apparently super advanced aliens can think of improving there Gene pool.


Also, the whole "Sowing seeds of life so that interbreeding would be possible" crap wouldn't work in any way. Let's assume that Humans evolved from some alien crap, that means that Apes also evolved from the same things since we know that we share a common ancestor, and Humans can't interbreed with Apes.
 
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This theory is just...meh... like, if they are so advanced why would they need us for that sort of thing? They could just make clones or reproduce via other means, assuming they were sterile. Maybe they're not even flesh to begin with, maybe they're like robots or made out of energy or some crazy shit.
 

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A while back, I made a thread about the new theory about aliens, but I wanted to write a new one based on more ideas I've heard on the topic. To recap the old theory:
A lot of people agree that alien abductions are a real occurrence around the world. These abductions are being reported in great numbers and by many reliable sources. Surely the number not reported far exceeds those that were reported, so certainly the occurrence is even more common than we think. The important thing to note about these abduction stories is the consistency between what happens to them. Random people that have never met or even considered the possibility of abductions find themselves having experienced the very same thing. Most commonly, the reason they were abducted was for their DNA. Whether its a man or a woman, they are quite literally having their DNA harvested from them, specifically reproductive DNA. There are even reports of women being impregnated with alien DNA and having the baby taken from them at a later time.
TL:DR of the above; abductees are being taken in order to harvest DNA from them. The most important question to ask from this is why would some alien race need our DNA?
This is what I made the first thread about. The idea is that an alien race, like ours, evolved to the point of being almost completely sterile. Think about our evolution. Imagine if our race lived another 10,000 years. Imagine if we lived another 100,000 years or even a few million years. How would our bodies look? How would we evolve?The possible outcome of a couple million years of evolution might be a human race that looks very much like the classic 'Gray' alien. You know the one, with giant heads, big eyes, puny and pale bodies. If we were to evolve to this point, perhaps we'd become sterile. So an alien race, very much like our own, might have found our planet and are using us for the sake of saving their own race, but interbreeding with us.Hybrids of these two races would most likely be fertile. These fertile hybrids could be placed back into their race and, in a sense, buy their race time. In order to make a significant difference, the amount of hybridization that goes on would have to be pretty widespread, hence the amount of time and abductees we are being presented with.
TL:DR again; a humanoid alien race that has evolved for millions of years may have evolved to the point of being almost completely sterile. They could very well have found our planet, perhaps after thousands upon thousands of years of searching, and after confirming hybrids could be made, now use us in order to reverse the sterilization process that plagues them.Now this is just one theory. Another theory is that these 'aliens' are actually us from the future. As I said above, perhaps our evolution might lead to us looking like 'Gray' aliens, but I find this theory too hard to believe.However, it could be that our race evolved elsewhere on another planet in another solar system. A race evolved enough for interstellar travel may be able to sew the seeds of life on other planets. It could be that once this race evolved enough, it began to seed life on other planets and see if they'd be able to evolve. We could be a planet of beings that was created by another planet, created solely for being harvested for our DNA later. We could be a very rare, successful, case of this experimentation. In such a case, we would actually be the aliens.I hope people can keep an open mind about this and if you read the whole thread, I thank you for your patience. If this sort of idea interests you, please don't hesitate to give your own take on the idea. Thanks for reading.
seems like an Hollywood movie to me.
 

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First of all, thank you for the mature responses, I appreciate it.

Basically million year old alien society = less genetic diversity over time = stagnated/infertile DNA pool.
Those types of animals would've be disadvantaged here on Earth alone. That essentially shows how aliens could work around natural selection. But that doesn't mean I believe in these mere conspiracies, that's just what I got out of it.
Essentially that is the theory. They could have evolved to a point of breaking the rule of natural selection. Its not that they are all necessarily sterile though, perhaps just a large portion of them and they are trying to pre-emptively prevent complete sterilization.

-Aliens exist, statistically.
-Alien abductions are not happening.
-"Extraterrestrial" claims vary based on the time period. Where as 2000 years ago, people would swear they were possessed by a demon, today people swear they were abducted by aliens.

It's all bias based on a lack of understanding.
Alien abductions are in fact happening. Being possessed by demons is not an occurrence that was limited to people 2000 years ago, people still claim possessions today. Mass hysteria or similar dreams or hallucinations of being abducted are classic ways to explain away real abductions, but it can't explain all of them. People are left with physical signs of trauma and relive experiences through hypnosis. It may be a laughable matter for most, but abductions are a real thing.

Okay, lets see all the things you assume with no proof in this theory:
1: Aliens Exist
2: Aliens have contacted us
3: Aliens have somehow kept secret for thousands of years
4: Aliens Abduct people
5: People believe #4
6: Aliens are sterile
7: Aliens can interbreed with humans, despite evolving on different freaking planets.
8: Hybrids would be able to breed.
9: This is the best way the apparently super advanced aliens can think of improving there Gene pool.


Also, the whole "Sowing seeds of life so that interbreeding would be possible" crap wouldn't work in any way. Let's assume that Humans evolved from some alien crap, that means that Apes also evolved from the same things since we know that we share a common ancestor, and Humans can't interbreed with Apes.
It could be that they have avoided actually contacting us and instead just observe us. They would stay secret by staying out of our reach just enough to avoid actual detection, but still perpetrate abductions and conduct tests. As I said before, alien abductions are real and people just have trouble coming to terms with the reality.

They might not all be sterile, but the race could be well on its way to that point. They could be pre-emptively trying to save their gene pool. I gave multiple theories as to how they could interbreed with us despite being from different planets. They could have searched for a viably similar human race for thousands of years using interstellar travel or they seeded our planet.

When I say "sow seeds of life" I don't literally mean apes evolved from aliens. I mean they could have introduced micro organisms on different planets with suitable environments and hoped life evolved from it. I mean whose to say the alien race can't be a billion years old? Perhaps they oversaw these planets and began to closely observe those that spawned life. Again, they would be targeting us now because of the uniqueness of our planet. We could be a one in 10 million experiment gone just right.

If that were the case, than of course we'd be of great interest to them.
 

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First of all, thank you for the mature responses, I appreciate it.



Essentially that is the theory. They could have evolved to a point of breaking the rule of natural selection. Its not that they are all necessarily sterile though, perhaps just a large portion of them and they are trying to pre-emptively prevent complete sterilization.



Alien abductions are in fact happening. Being possessed by demons is not an occurrence that was limited to people 2000 years ago, people still claim possessions today. Mass hysteria or similar dreams or hallucinations of being abducted are classic ways to explain away real abductions, but it can't explain all of them. People are left with physical signs of trauma and relive experiences through hypnosis. It may be a laughable matter for most, but abductions are a real thing.



It could be that they have avoided actually contacting us and instead just observe us. They would stay secret by staying out of our reach just enough to avoid actual detection, but still perpetrate abductions and conduct tests. As I said before, alien abductions are real and people just have trouble coming to terms with the reality.

They might not all be sterile, but the race could be well on its way to that point. They could be pre-emptively trying to save their gene pool. I gave multiple theories as to how they could interbreed with us despite being from different planets. They could have searched for a viably similar human race for thousands of years using interstellar travel or they seeded our planet.

When I say "sow seeds of life" I don't literally mean apes evolved from aliens. I mean they could have introduced micro organisms on different planets with suitable environments and hoped life evolved from it. I mean whose to say the alien race can't be a billion years old? Perhaps they oversaw these planets and began to closely observe those that spawned life. Again, they would be targeting us now because of the uniqueness of our planet. We could be a one in 10 million experiment gone just right.

If that were the case, than of course we'd be of great interest to them.
Fine. Give solid evidence that alien abductions are real. I'll wait.
 

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These aliens are so damn sneaky to hang around since 12000 BC + and still playing hide and sneak. What a long mission they have....


Frankly I think most of these theories are started by people who just want to believe it. Alien theories have become alternative for religious theories for them.

I had heard of how Egyptian pyramids were built by the aliens for a long time. Recently I came across a few videos where they tried to convince us that ancient Indian civilization too was built by aliens. It's just -_-
Well his theories are no different from religion and worth nothing less than the religion...


OTT: Seeing that the closest star to us Proxima centuri is over 4 light years away. Imagine the closest habitable "rock/planet"... This theory becomes very very doubtful looking at vastness of space(I mean milky way an average barred spiral galaxy is over 100 000 light years across in size :mad:_@:). Unless somehow and some way they have found means of space-time manipulation: meaning they have came from the future with advance means of technology or they're biological immortal meaning they can spent that much time on space travelling which is also highly unlikely because they may be immortal but their fuel is not, but what do you know? Most telescopes in the world have government shares on them, so we may be given false information regarding true sizes and ocular calculations of space... we will never know..

BTW check out Chariots of the Gods: written by Erich Von Daniken most of the times he is accused of pseudo-science
 

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Universe is too large for us to be alone in there, and we are not special either.

Aliens that are here , probably dont have bad intentions(they may take a few individuals to make some experiments but they're not going to terminate us).

I think they have some observing and guarding missions.

They probably help us in technology.
 

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I don't doubt that aliens exist, but those theories are just too... sensasionalist for my taste.
But as other guy said, the universe is too large and would be dumb of us deny and think we are the only developed civilization.

Regarding other issues like abductions, i don't deny neither agree. Never met someone who was abducted, but if there's a lot of stories and even the air forces of several countries have sectors just for studying unidentified objects, probably aliens exist. So the truth must be "in the middle."

Also i'm not follower of the theory that aliens built the pyramids and all ancient civilizations. I find it "very convenient" and full of contradictions. So humans are not able to build anything?
 
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