[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 493 Discussion and 494 Predictions

[Your Creepy Stalker]

A third Dragneel, now that was really unexpected.

Rakheid the White...a pious priest

Zeref the Black...a dark wizard

Natsu the Red...the demon-king of hell

We know how Zeref and Natsu survived for 400 years, but how did Rakheid? I'm more inclined to believe he is a third brother, but maybe somewhere along the line Zeref had a son or Rakheid is Zeref's counterpart in Edolas and that weird cross on his back is his magic tool. That latter option starts to become credible the more I think about it as most of the Edolas characters are the opposite of their Earthland counterparts: Zeref the Black Mage >< Rakheid the White Priest

And Irene's personality starts to divert more and more from what I expected it to be. She really has got some serious unresolved issues in regards to the looks of other females and mutilating them. She so got dumped at one point for another woman >.>

Edolas characters usually have the same first names, but different last names. Case in point, Natsu Draigon. If Zeref has an Edolas counterpart, he would most likely be called Zeref Draigon. And he would look the same as Zeref, since that's a thing.

 

[Caliburn]

Edolas characters usually have the same first names, but different last names. Case in point, Natsu Draigon. If Zeref has an Edolas counterpart, he would most likely be called Zeref Draigon. And he would look the same as Zeref, since that's a thing.

Actually that's not always the case.

Grandene's, a dragon, Edolas counterpart is a female human who goes by the name Porlyuska. Makarov's Dreyar Edolas counterpart is named Faust and neither of these two even remotely look like their counterparts. Also it's not because Natsu and Zeref are brothers in Earthland that their counterparts are brothers in Edolas.

 

[Scorps]

A third Dragneel, now that was really unexpected.

Rakheid the White...a pious priest

Zeref the Black...a dark wizard

Natsu the Red...the demon-king of hell

We know how Zeref and Natsu survived for 400 years, but how did Rakheid? I'm more inclined to believe he is a third brother, but maybe somewhere along the line Zeref had a son or Rakheid is Zeref's counterpart in Edolas and that weird cross on his back is his magic tool. That latter option starts to become credible the more I think about it as most of the Edolas characters are the opposite of their Earthland counterparts: Zeref the Black Mage >< Rakheid the White Priest

And Irene's personality starts to divert more and more from what I expected it to be. She really has got some serious unresolved issues in regards to the looks of other females and mutilating them. She so got dumped at one point for another woman >.>

Lol at the Irene part. Ahah


Well, I don't think its the Edolas version. For once, why would an opposite of Zeref help Zeref? We saw that polar opposites meant often literally polar ideals as was the case of Erza. Additionally, he his nothing like Zeref visually.

Dragneel means its from Zeref's and Natsu's family...of sorts. It could be Zeref's Son, it could be another Demon that Zeref created using his own blood instead of using Natsu's. It could even be a spell and a simple creation like what Eileen made with the 2 swords.

I actually think that mister black skin and scary eyes calamity old man is on FT's side. I doubt it would be impossible for him to not notice brandish reducing the wound. And also, the shot wasn't on her heart originally anyway. How could someon such as him not obliterate a puny someone like her? Fishy.

 

[jhamz]

Lol at the Irene part. Ahah


Well, I don't think its the Edolas version. For once, why would an opposite of Zeref help Zeref? We saw that polar opposites meant often literally polar ideals as was the case of Erza. Additionally, he his nothing like Zeref visually.

Dragneel means its from Zeref's and Natsu's family...of sorts. It could be Zeref's Son, it could be another Demon that Zeref created using his own blood instead of using Natsu's. It could even be a spell and a simple creation like what Eileen made with the 2 swords.

I actually think that mister black skin and scary eyes calamity old man is on FT's side. I doubt it would be impossible for him to not notice brandish reducing the wound. And also, the shot wasn't on her heart originally anyway. How could someon such as him not obliterate a puny someone like her? Fishy.

Mirajane, a class S Mage and considered to be Erza's rival a puny someone? K. Im done
Though I agree that August couldn't have not noticed what Brandish did. And I think August could've pulled out a kame hame wave ??????

 

[Relostar Devil]

LMAOOO!!!!
Funny guy..

OT: I think its crazy. Zeref, and Rahkeid has opposite power elements basically. Light and Dark.. I can care less who he is though tbvh

Also the spriggin 12 are meeting? Umm Gajeel killed his.. and Im almost sure Laxus killed his.. Only 10 left
If this is like ANY other good anime.. All the spriggins that are going to meet up will be almost instantly defeated leaving august, and eileen.. Cause that would mean the fights were for nothing.. We all know Gildarts finna show up and show them how it's done! Brandish.. I like her... Her powers is VERY powerful also.. i like how shes standing on both the good and bad side.. but its obvious when the time comes shes gonna speak out against zeref.. be killed and anger lucy (obvious) lol

either way i liked the tension between elieen and august..

God serena and jellal one too

 

[Scorps]

Mirajane, a class S Mage and considered to be Erza's rival a puny someone? K. Im done
Though I agree that August couldn't have not noticed what Brandish did. And I think August could've pulled out a kame hame wave ������

its a figure of speech. For someone like Mira, August and Eileen are in a 100% different league. She is but a fly to them and its clearly noticeable in the way she reacted to their magic power and how she described it as so much more intense than hers to the point of questioning how it could be possible.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Actually that's not always the case.

Grandene's, a dragon, Edolas counterpart is a female human who goes by the name Porlyuska. Makarov's Dreyar Edolas counterpart is named Faust and neither of these two even remotely look like their counterparts. Also it's not because Natsu and Zeref are brothers in Earthland that their counterparts are brothers in Edolas.

All with explanations available. Porlyusica is using a false name, and humans that turn into dragons is an established thing with Acnologia, so it's possible that Grandeeny (and by extention, all the other dragons) where originally human. That's pretty much a guess though.

And Faust looks different from Makarov because he isn't Makarov, and no amount of the author confirming it to be Makarov can make Faust be anyone but Gran Doma. That's more me getting annoyed at an obviously wrong explanation though.

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[Ansatsuken]

All with explanations available. Porlyusica is using a false name, and humans that turn into dragons is an established thing with Acnologia, so it's possible that Grandeeny (and by extention, all the other dragons) where originally human. That's pretty much a guess though.

And Faust looks different from Makarov because he isn't Makarov, and no amount of the author confirming it to be Makarov can make Faust be anyone but Gran Doma. That's more me getting annoyed at an obviously wrong explanation though.

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Dragon never exist in Edolas and since the beginning Magic not exist in Edolas until human there using Anima.

And how Grandine of Edolas is a Dragon when she saw the real Grandine(dragon) her self?

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[Caliburn]

All with explanations available. Porlyusica is using a false name, and humans that turn into dragons is an established thing with Acnologia, so it's possible that Grandeeny (and by extention, all the other dragons) where originally human. That's pretty much a guess though.

And Faust looks different from Makarov because he isn't Makarov, and no amount of the author confirming it to be Makarov can make Faust be anyone but Gran Doma. That's more me getting annoyed at an obviously wrong explanation though.

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And who says Rakheid is using his real name? Zeref is also known as Spriggan while Edo-Jellal went by the name of Mystogan. That Rakheid for one reason or another decided to change his name is perfectly possible, in particular to avoid confusion between him and Earthland Zeref.

Faust is Edo-Makarov. I didn't believe it either at first when I heard it as it didn't make any sense whatsoever, but this has been officially confirmed. What you say doesn't make any sense as apparently the author himself can't decide this while he is in fact the only person who can because, well, he created the series?

That all the dragons were once humans is one possibility you can discard for 99.9% certainty. Acnologia became a dragon because of bathing too much in dragon's blood and got contaminated by dragon slaying magic. Dragons are a separate species, it makes no sense that people got turned into a non-existing species by bathing in the blood of a species that does not exist/use magic to slay a species that does not exist.

So yeah in theory it's perfectly possible that Rakheid is Edo-Zeref as neither his name nor looks matter much. If you need additional examples: Edo-Wendy is a grown up woman, Edo-Lisanna is dead and in the anime they even gender swapped a character. Edolas is not a perfect mirror-world of Earthland.

 

[Scorps]

Lets be clear about one thing: Dragons pre-date humans in fairytailverse. They are the original species of the world and the original wielders of magic. What happens is that humans, if they bathe too much in dragon blood, AKA kill a lot of dragons through the use of dragon slaying magic or its overuse, will become able to achieve a full transformation into a dragon. They aren't, however, dragons. Acnologia is not a dragon. He is a human that has a very buffed up version of Dragon Force that goes beyond making him have scales and "dragon eyes" but actually transforms him into a dragon. So no, this new guy isn't a dragon.

If he is named Dragneel we know he is of the same family as Zeref and Natsu. Natsu, however, isn't really Zeref's brother but rather a demon he created using black arts and his brother's body. He's a...clone of sorts. And its that whole background that justifies most of Zeref's abilities and what he is today. I doubt, therefore, that this new character is a brother of Zeref. Why would the author not mention Zeref had another brother when he detailed Natsu and Zeref's relationship so well. I mean, it would be a bit of a poor plot to add another brother. It would devalue the relationship Zeref-Natsu and there fore, zeref's background as well.

It can be a son of Zeref or simply another creation of his. It could even be a surviving relative of the same family.


I don't think its an opposite to Zeref mainly because he's part of the spriggan 12 so....why would an opposite, help Zeref?

I also don't think its an Edolas version of anyone. Mainly because, from all Edolas versions, Mystogan was the strongest we saw and even he wasn't on the level we now have Laxus, Natsu, etc. Considering what we saw so far, August, Eileen and this new guy are within the springan 12 in a whole other level. So, Mystogan, with magic tools, is much weaker than any of those. Its not a stretch to say that even with magic tools, one from edolas cannot be on the same level as mages from this reality. How would a weak guy that uses a magic tool be able to be in the springan 12? Doesn't make sense. He needs to be a mage and therefore, from this reality.

 

[Ansatsuken]

First time I saw Admin and Global Mod talked about one FT chapter. Before this it only Caliburn :lol

 

[Caliburn]

Lets be clear about one thing: Dragons pre-date humans in fairytailverse. They are the original species of the world and the original wielders of magic. What happens is that humans, if they bathe too much in dragon blood, AKA kill a lot of dragons through the use of dragon slaying magic or its overuse, will become able to achieve a full transformation into a dragon. They aren't, however, dragons. Acnologia is not a dragon. He is a human that has a very buffed up version of Dragon Force that goes beyond making him have scales and "dragon eyes" but actually transforms him into a dragon. So no, this new guy isn't a dragon.

If he is named Dragneel we know he is of the same family as Zeref and Natsu. Natsu, however, isn't really Zeref's brother but rather a demon he created using black arts and his brother's body. He's a...clone of sorts. And its that whole background that justifies most of Zeref's abilities and what he is today. I doubt, therefore, that this new character is a brother of Zeref. Why would the author not mention Zeref had another brother when he detailed Natsu and Zeref's relationship so well. I mean, it would be a bit of a poor plot to add another brother. It would devalue the relationship Zeref-Natsu and there fore, zeref's background as well.

It can be a son of Zeref or simply another creation of his. It could even be a surviving relative of the same family.


I don't think its an opposite to Zeref mainly because he's part of the spriggan 12 so....why would an opposite, help Zeref?

I also don't think its an Edolas version of anyone. Mainly because, from all Edolas versions, Mystogan was the strongest we saw and even he wasn't on the level we now have Laxus, Natsu, etc. Considering what we saw so far, August, Eileen and this new guy are within the springan 12 in a whole other level. So, Mystogan, with magic tools, is much weaker than any of those. Its not a stretch to say that even with magic tools, one from edolas cannot be on the same level as mages from this reality. How would a weak guy that uses a magic tool be able to be in the springan 12? Doesn't make sense. He needs to be a mage and therefore, from this reality.

Edo-Grandene helped Earthland Grandene. It's not like there's no precedent of this. In the end Edolas is not a mirrorworld of Earthland and the habitants of both worlds have their own wills, their own history and their own future. Just like Porlushka decided to stay in Earthland, they all can decide what they want to do. I mean why is any of the Spriggan 12 helping Zeref in the first place? They have their reasons, most of which are unbeknownst to us, so that Edo-Zeref would have reasons to support his Earthland version, is possible.

Mystogan was from Edolas and he was one of the strongest in the guild. Even Laxus acknowledged him and rated him higher than Erza. Yes that was a long time ago, but it's not like that Mystogan's power was stagnant. Not to mention those tools the Edolas mages used were already quite hard to deal with in a magic-poor environment; in a magic-rich environment they will be much more potent. Not to mention Whal Icht, another spriggan, was essentially a walking magical tool and using magical tools is what Erza's magic is centered around. You can even consider dragon lachrima as magical tools.

And it's because a potential new family member is so out of place I dropped the hypothesis that it might be Edo-Zeref. No matter how powerful Zeref is in Earthland and what his relationships are, even he must have some kind of Edo counterpart and if that's Rakheid, well it would solve all the familial issues. What in particular is problematic, is the severe contrast between Zeref and Rakheid: Zeref the black, Rakheid the White. Zeref's entire character is based upon him being possessed by some kind of death god that regardless of what Zeref does, people around him will die, Zeref himself however can not die. Rakheid on the other hand is some kind of pious priest that sends people to nirvana. The contrast between them is so large that storywise this doesn't make sense as how does Natsu fit into this? But if Rakheid is from Edolas, then all those troubles disappear instantly.

 

[Scorps]

I agree that it would solve the whole "being a brother thing" but I feel Edolas is in the plot, something left behind. It would be of very poor taste to actually bring up Edo version of Zeref at this point just to enable another villain for FT to fight.

I'm more inclined to believe one of the following:

-He is another Etherious, one created with Zeref or natsu's blood or something that ties it biologicaly with the name Dragneel. Seems the most plausible for me.

-He is the sole current time survivor of the Dragneel family. Less plausible but still.

The edolas thing or the new brother thing....both irk me and make little sense for me. I won't say it isn't, as hiro has shown to throw us curve balls by both giving us the most unexpected things as expected and the expected as unexpected. Mavis loving Zeref? Mavis having the same curse as Zeref? And not being the antithesis of Zeref like we all assumed? All of it were curve balls of "obvious plot lines" that we didn't think were gonna be his choice and yet they were. Same with Natsu being END. Etc etc. So this might be that case.

 

[Caliburn]

I agree that it would solve the whole "being a brother thing" but I feel Edolas is in the plot, something left behind. It would be of very poor taste to actually bring up Edo version of Zeref at this point just to enable another villain for FT to fight.

I'm more inclined to believe one of the following:

-He is another Etherious, one created with Zeref or natsu's blood or something that ties it biologicaly with the name Dragneel. Seems the most plausible for me.

-He is the sole current time survivor of the Dragneel family. Less plausible but still.

The edolas thing or the new brother thing....both irk me and make little sense for me. I won't say it isn't, as hiro has shown to throw us curve balls by both giving us the most unexpected things as expected and the expected as unexpected. Mavis loving Zeref? Mavis having the same curse as Zeref? And not being the antithesis of Zeref like we all assumed? All of it were curve balls of "obvious plot lines" that we didn't think were gonna be his choice and yet they were. Same with Natsu being END. Etc etc. So this might be that case.

And there's misconception. The whole Edolas-affaire ended years ago, however it still very well exists and we get reminders of that from time to time: Frosh and Lector, Nichiya, the attempt to try Jellal passing off as Mystogan during the Grand Magic Games... Even though Edolas was mostly important for one specific arc, there were interactions between the two worlds long before that and which had no importance whatsoever to that arc. So Rakheid can easily have no relevance whatsoever to all the things that transpired, the only thing Edolas would be is the place he came from, but that's about it and that alone suddenly is not automatically going to define his entire character.

If this was another series I would likely not consider this possibility, but considering this is Hiro and Fairy Tail we are talking about, I easily see it happen that Hiro would have added Edo-Zeref for the sole purpose of creating a short-term confusion in regards to his last name. I said long ago that there would be huge differences between the character developments of all the Spriggans, so it's really not unthinkable for Hiro to have thrown in another Dragneel to confuse us to then shortly after make it appear that Rakheid actually has no connection whatsoever to either Zeref or Natsu as he's from Edolas.


Personally I don't buy the Rakheid = Etherious hypothesis as it's doesn't stroke with Zeref's affection towards Natsu. I mean all of the Etherious were made by Zeref and Natsu was special because he was his brother. Now however it feels like this: Zeref made END, it failed, he used his blood to make Rakheid, which apparently failed again and now he's back to Natsu? That really does not match the brotherly affection, as twisted as it might be, that he showed up to this point.