Strongest Mangekyo Sharingan

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Borrowed? Obito was the juubi jin. It was left over in him. Madara stole his powers and sasuke had it handed to him. You have no valid points you bias *****.

Yeah that's what i thought *****, change subject cause you know dms hype only exist with rikudou chakra and hashi cells to ignore blindness and limitations. Ignorant ass
 

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^ bringing up some 3minute powerup boosted by rikudou chakra. Lol
 

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You're dumb as ****. Sasuke and madara rikudou gave them their own rinnegan, obito temp borrowed rikudou to enhance his kamui. The point I'm making is that idiots are giving obito dms speed and warp feats that only exist with rikudou chakra. He would not do the same shit without it you ugly baboon ape alt.

Actually it would be the same. Both eyes together increase the speed of Kamui and combines both eyes powers into one revealing more variety. All this is not due soley to Six Paths alone.

In fact the only time Six Paths is directly in use is when he combines it with his Chidori and Kamui at once to pierce Kaguya.

However all this is the FULL cappabilities of Kamui. It didnt give Obito any techs that werent in its eventual grasp already.

This is supposed to compare all MS at their best with each other.
 
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Yes it allows him to compete with Kaguya because of six paths but thats about it. It Strengthens his doujutsu.

All the techs are the same. Six Paths didnt give the eyes anything it wouldnt have already had if yhey were together from the start within Obito.
 

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Yes it allows him to compete with Kaguya because of six paths but thats about it. It Strengthens his doujutsu.

All the techs are the same. Six Paths didnt give the eyes anything it wouldnt have already had if yhey were together from the start within Obito.

This right here would not happened without rikudou boost.
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Rikudou boost enabled him to use his Kamui like this. If you're saying it didn't enhance the way to use his kamui you're wrong.
 
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So you're butthurt over the truth man...:coffee:
Sasuke isn't the weakest user though. The Sharingan can be only used to the user's capacity. Sasuke used his MS qite effectively. Shisui was the weakest MS user because despite using KA he couldn't finish off Danzo though Itachi hyped it up to be the strongest genjutsu. The weakest user is Shisui because he did use the most powerful technique yet failed. It can also be detected by the Byakugan so.
Just realized he's the Minato > 8gatesi

:lmao: Maybe man, can keep track of them Shadow Clones. It's too difficult.
 

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Sasuke isn't the weakest user though. The Sharingan can be only used to the user's capacity. Sasuke used his MS qite effectively. Shisui was the weakest MS user because despite using KA he couldn't finish off Danzo though Itachi hyped it up to be the strongest genjutsu. The weakest user is Shisui because he did use the most powerful technique yet failed. It can also be detected by the Byakugan so.

Well Sasuke's MS was nothing special imo. Sure he could manipulate his amaterasu better than Itachi but it was nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukiyomi. And I think Shisui was taken by surprise by Danzo if I am not mistaken.
 

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no it wasn't...it was a reference to unique mangekyo sharingan...if it was a reference to EMS then madara would have stated it was EMS...stop making shit up

No, Madara was referring to Sasuke's eye pattern, both of their original MS don't have any comma like Itachi's eye, but Sasuke's EMS has Itachi's comma in a straight form, likewise Madara's EMS has a straight comma as well.

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You make alot of things up. Kamui doesnt build up chakra nor has anyone "seen" it. In fact, only Amaterasu was stated to build chakra so stop the fanfic please.

Yes it does, whenever MS is being used the chakra in the eye builds up, similar to how a person using ninjutsu requires moulding their chakra. It doesn't only apply to Amaterasu.

Any sensor or person capable of seeing chakra will know when a dojutsu user is about to perform a technique because the chakra in their eyes has to build up in order to be used.

Every Mamgekyou user is above 3tomoe Sasuke, meaning they ALL can break Tsukoyomi. KA was stated to be UNBREAKABLE. Tsukoyomi can be broken by other Uchiha.

No, in fact 3tomoe Sasuke's eye power was compared to Madara after he awoke MS. No one has stronger eye power than transmigrants because their chakra is directly related to Hagoromo's.

And Tsukuyomi was said to require the same bloodline as Itachi, but meeting requirements doesn't guarantee being able to break genjutsu. Sasuke was able to because as a transmigrant his skill and eye power was superior to Uchiha in general.

Furthermore, Obito said if Itachi had intel on him he would be dead, the fact he didn't approach Sasuke when Itachi was a alive confirms how strong Itachi's power was.

Even with Intel you cannot EASILY counter Kamui. They hardly countered his 1 eye. And they only did it becuz his other eye. Give him both and its extremely hard next yo impossible to harm him or stop him. Its 100x better than Ameno also.

The only thing you can't counter is Kamui phase but even then it's not a big threat to the likes of Sasuke and Madara who have the speed to avoid contact with him.

Keep in mind Obito can't phase and teleport at the same time. If Obito teleports Sasuke has Enton to shield him and Madara has Susanoo to protect him, if he phases, Sasuke, Itachi and Madara can simply avoid him getting near them with their pre-cog insight.

And as I said before, Senju power isn't naturally his, without Hashi cells the duration of his phasing is severely limited as well as the size of objects he can teleport. Without Hashi's power Obito's eyes are below Itachi and Sasuke, with Hashi's power his Sharingan is still below Rinnegan Sasuke.
 
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No, Madara was referring to Sasuke's eye pattern, both of their original MS don't have any comma like Itachi's eye, but Sasuke's EMS has Itachi's comma in a straight form, likewise Madara's EMS has a straight comma as well.

maybe you should google pictures of straight commas instead of wasting my God damn time :sdo:

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No, Madara was referring to Sasuke's eye pattern, both of their original MS don't have any comma like Itachi's eye, but Sasuke's EMS has Itachi's comma in a straight form, likewise Madara's EMS has a straight comma as well.

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Yes it does, whenever MS is being used the chakra in the eye builds up, similar to how a person using ninjutsu requires moulding their chakra. It doesn't only apply to Amaterasu.

Any sensor or person capable of seeing chakra will know when a dojutsu user is about to perform a technique because the chakra in their eyes has to build up in order to be used.



No, in fact 3tomoe Sasuke's eye power was compared to Madara after he awoke MS. No one has stronger eye power than transmigrants because their chakra is directly related to Hagoromo's.

And Tsukuyomi was said to require the same bloodline as Itachi, but meeting requirements doesn't guarantee being able to break genjutsu. Sasuke was able to because as a transmigrant his skill and eye power was superior to Uchiha in general.

Furthermore, Obito said if Itachi had intel on him he would be dead, the fact he didn't approach Sasuke when Itachi was a alive confirms how strong Itachi's power was.



The only thing you can't counter is Kamui phase but even then it's not a big threat to the likes of Sasuke and Madara who have the speed to avoid contact with him.

Keep in mind Obito can't phase and teleport at the same time. If Obito teleports Sasuke has Enton to shield him and Madara has Susanoo to protect him, if he phases, Sasuke, Itachi and Madara can simply avoid him getting near them with their pre-cog insight.

And as I said before, Senju power isn't naturally his, without Hashi cells the duration of his phasing is severely limited as well as the size of objects he can teleport. Without Hashi's power Obito's eyes are below Itachi and Sasuke, with Hashi's power his Sharingan is still below Rinnegan Sasuke.

Any Uchiha with a strong enough Sharingan has the potential to break Tsukoyomi. Itachi was talking about his CLAN. He was saying Kakashi cannot utilize Sharingan to its full potential without the Uchiha genes and therefore cannot stand up to Tsukoyomi.

Nomatter how you paint it Obito has the best Mangekyou of each of them. Space Time Ninjutsu is unparralleled. He already showed prowess against Gai, Kakashi, and Bijuu Mode Naruto all at once. With his other eye he is beast.

Zetsu cells did not power up his MS either it just shortened the blindness speed. And for the sake of the arguement you should leave that out considering Sasuke("a transmigrant") went blind the quickest even faster than Kakashi.

Kamui has never been simple to counter. In fact Konan had to set up a master plan to trap him. Never has anyone countered kamui in a simple way. Only time someone landed a clean hit was when they themselves had S/T justu. No matter what you say you cannot fodderize Double Kamui.
 

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This right here would not happened without rikudou boost.
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Rikudou boost enabled him to use his Kamui like this. If you're saying it didn't enhance the way to use his kamui you're wrong.

No you are wrong. All it did was grant what the eyes would have already unlocked. His eyes are still MANGEKYOU. The style did not change. Those attacks come with Kakashis Susano'o.

Susanoo is only awakened when you unlock MS in BOTH eyes. Kakashi met the requirements to unlock Susano'o. You are believing a fairytale if you think Six Paths "created" new abilities for kamui.

Whats so hard to believe that a Kamui Susanoo will have kamui weapons. Just look at Itachis Totsuka, and Sasuke Enton Ball. Common sense Obito would throw Kamui.

Six Paths POWERED up his Doujutsu it did not grant new abilities based off six paths. It merely boosted Kakashis evolution and strengthened its power.
 
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