sasuke's susanoo...

[sixpaths15]

was ems sasuke's v3 susanoo with legs only the size of kurama avatar because of the chakra cloak. i noticed that madara's v3 legged susanoo was much smaller than sasuke's. so was it because of kurama's chakra that sauske's v3 susanoo was as big as it was?

 

[Styles]

No. And Madara used his legged Susano'o without eyes so the power could have been altered. Kurama's chakra makes a technique stronger not bigger/developed.

And a Susano'o user can alter it's size Madara's V4 was the size of Kurama without legs.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Kishi gives zero ****s about sizes.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Kishi gives zero ****s about sizes.

He is Asian after all​

 

[Ansatsuken]

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[Megax Rocker7]

He is Asian after all​

Not funny.

 

[ray j]

You have to realize when making a story first you have to make sure you are prepared to make a story first

 

[SenseiSama]

No. And Madara used his legged Susano'o without eyes so the power could have been altered. Kurama's chakra makes a technique stronger not bigger/developed.

And a Susano'o user can alter it's size Madara's V4 was the size of Kurama without legs.

Kurama's chakra never made Sasuke's avatar stronger, at that time he didn't have the power to merge bijuu chakra with Susanoo like in VoTE 2

 

[SenseiSama]

I think PS was Madara's MS ability since he's the only one to have used it without Rikudou chakra

 

[Styles]

Kurama's chakra never made Sasuke's avatar stronger, at that time he didn't have the power to merge bijuu chakra with Susanoo like in VoTE 2

Yea no Kurama's chakra made everyone's techniques stronger Sasuke wasn't an exception.

I think PS was Madara's MS ability since he's the only one to have used it without Rikudou chakra

Yea no PS is a EMS technique. Sasuke and Madara used it on Kurama. If you're talking about a standing PS Madara never used it till he was edo with Rinnegan. Which is Rikudou chakra.

 

[SenseiSama]

Yea no Kurama's chakra made everyone's techniques stronger Sasuke wasn't an exception.

Wrong, Kurama's chakra has no influence over Sasuke's avatar unless their chakras are fused like a Jinchuuriki. He didn't have a Kurama cloak when the avatars combined therefore his Susanoo would not be enhanced

Yea no PS is a EMS technique. Sasuke and Madara used it on Kurama. If you're talking about a standing PS Madara never used it till he was edo with Rinnegan. Which is Rikudou chakra.

Proof ? Sasuke's avatar looks like Madara's because they both have Indra's chakra but it didn't have the size of PS, the power of PS nor the wings of PS, therefore it wasn't PS but a pre-mature version of it, it's no different to how Sasuke's eye isn't a RinneSharingan even though it looks like one.

And read the manga, Madara's avatar was the size of full Kurama even without Rikudou chakra, while Sasuke's only grew as soon as he had Sage chakra

The manga has shown that having someone's chakra gives them the person's KKG, but despite having Indra's chakra Madara wasn't able to use Amaterasu or Enton like Sasuke.

Madara not having the same abilities as Sasuke and Naruto not having the same ability as Hashirama shows that each transmigrant inherits a separate ability from their ancestor which makes because their bloodlines have gone through centuries of blood thinning.

 

[Styles]

Wrong, Kurama's chakra has no influence over Sasuke's avatar unless their chakras are fused like a Jinchuuriki. He didn't have a Kurama cloak when the avatars combined therefore his Susanoo would not be enhanced

Proof ? Sasuke's avatar looks like Madara's because they both have Indra's chakra but it didn't have the size of PS, the power of PS nor the wings of PS, therefore it wasn't PS but a pre-mature version of it, it's no different to how Sasuke's eye isn't a RinneSharingan even though it looks like one.

And read the manga, Madara's avatar was the size of full Kurama even without Rikudou chakra, while Sasuke's only grew as soon as he had Sage chakra

The manga has shown that having someone's chakra gives them the person's KKG, but despite having Indra's chakra Madara wasn't able to use Amaterasu or Enton like Sasuke.

Madara not having the same abilities as Sasuke and Naruto not having the same ability as Hashirama shows that each transmigrant inherits a separate ability from their ancestor which makes because their bloodlines have gone through centuries of blood thinning.

:| So Kurama's chakra make everyone's techniques stronger except Sasuke's despite having the same cloak?

The heck you mean proof? It's a known fact PS is a EMS technique. Everyone's PS is different Sasuke's PS looks nothing like Madara's. Sasuke's PS appearance have different features than Indra's.

:| The hell when did I say anything about the size of Madara's Susano'o?
And you also know you can change Susano'o size? So you fail there.

Yea no fail again Madara doesn't have Sasuke's Sharingan so no Enton Amaterasu or anything. And that only work with DNA not chakra. And fail again you don't know if Indra had Amaterasu or Enton.

No it doesn't you're just making fanfic.

 

[neosmith500]

Yea no PS is a EMS technique. Sasuke and Madara used it on Kurama. If you're talking about a standing PS Madara never used it till he was edo with Rinnegan. Which is Rikudou chakra.

Madara noted that in the old days , people said that whoever see's PS dies , based on that i think its 100% safe to assume that madara used standing PS before he was edo and long before fighting Hashirama at VOTE.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Yea no Kurama's chakra made everyone's techniques stronger Sasuke wasn't an exception.

Yea no PS is a EMS technique. Sasuke and Madara used it on Kurama. If you're talking about a standing PS Madara never used it till he was edo with Rinnegan. Which is Rikudou chakra.

Technically PS is MS technique and to be precise only can be created using MS that having eternal light. MS eyes that would never went blind bcus of extensive usage.

People like to think that this eyes were different. Put it in different category where's in reality it just MS eyes that will not lost its light unless it being use for Izanagi (example: Madara)

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[UnknownJin]

Yea no Kurama's chakra made everyone's techniques stronger Sasuke wasn't an exception.

Yea no PS is a EMS technique. Sasuke and Madara used it on Kurama. If you're talking about a standing PS Madara never used it till he was edo with Rinnegan. Which is Rikudou chakra.

Wtf? He used PS vs Hashirama wtf are u talking

 

[Styles]

Madara noted that in the old days , people said that whoever see's PS dies , based on that i think its 100% safe to assume that madara used standing PS before he was edo and long before fighting Hashirama at VOTE.

Which would be contradicting because Madara used PS(albet fused with Kurama) on Hashirama. Though Madara also could have meant possibly Indra? Because of the way he said it.

Technically PS is MS technique and to be precise only can be created using MS that having eternal light. MS eyes that would never went blind bcus of extensive usage.

People like to think that this eyes were different. Put it in different category where's in reality it just MS eyes that will not lost its light unless it being use for Izanagi (example: Madara)

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Well EMS doesn't lose light that's why I said EMS. Well unless you have Rikudou chakra. Then it's possible with MS.

Wtf? He used PS vs Hashirama wtf are u talking

:| Yea if you noticed I said he never used a standing PS. What he used vs Hashirama was what Sasuke did with Naruto. Meaning only this.

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[UnknownJin]

Which would be contradicting because Madara used PS(albet fused with Kurama) on Hashirama. Though Madara also could have meant possibly Indra? Because of the way he said it.

Well EMS doesn't lose light that's why I said EMS. Well unless you have Rikudou chakra. Then it's possible with MS.

:| Yea if you noticed I said he never used a standing PS. What he used vs Hashirama was what Sasuke did with Naruto. Meaning only this.

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By the look of it ,it looks PS to me...armor and swords

 

[neosmith500]

Which would be contradicting because Madara used PS(albet fused with Kurama) on Hashirama. Though Madara also could have meant possibly Indra? Because of the way he said it.

Theres no contradiction , Ntn and i mean ntn suggest that madara didn't use standing PS inbetween the time when he first got EMS , to when he battled Hashirama at VOTE.

The manga literally implies that madara used PS before fighting Hashi at VOTE and that Hashi was the only one able to handle it since every "Other" person who saw PS in battle died.

The people back then knew of Madara's PS and madara clearly states that others have seen it and others have died , also no madara could not have meant indra he was obviously referring to himself imo.

 

[Styles]

By the look of it ,it looks PS to me...armor and swords

:| Again I said that was PS I said by sensei's logic Madara never used a standing PS until he had Rikudou chakra. Aka the one he used vs the 5 kage.

Theres no contradiction , Ntn and i mean ntn suggest that madara didn't use standing PS inbetween the time when he first got EMS , to when he battled Hashirama at VOTE.

The manga literally implies that madara used PS before fighting Hashi at VOTE and that Hashi was the only one able to handle it since every "Other" person who saw PS in battle died.

The people back then knew of Madara's PS and madara clearly states that others have seen it and others have died , also no madara could not have meant indra he was obviously referring to himself imo.

There. Is also no proof that he did. He also said "now it says those who see the perfect Susano'o dies" which means it was a rumor.

Then the fact that Madara said he would never go all out vs a kid could imply he had it. But even vs Hashirama why not use PS? Why use Kurama and a V4? Until later on and finally fuse it.

 

[SenseiSama]

:| Again I said that was PS I said by sensei's logic Madara never used a standing PS until he had Rikudou chakra. Aka the one he used vs the 5 kage.

There. Is also no proof that he did. He also said "now it says those who see the perfect Susano'o dies" which means it was a rumor.

Then the fact that Madara said he would never go all out vs a kid could imply he had it. But even vs Hashirama why not use PS? Why use Kurama and a V4? Until later on and finally fuse it.

Idk what you guys are debating but I'm just gonna say he never used sanding PS because it's not enough to match Hashirama, he used bijuu because with Kurama he can also utilize bijuu dama.

Also, wrapping PS around a bijuu wouldn't make a difference because his avatar still had the same level of power

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