Adult ems sasuke vs ems madara

[sixpaths15]

Location: VOTE

Distance: 100 meters

Intent: to kill

Intel: none

Conditions: sasuke has ps from kaguya fight but downscaled to adult ems strength.

Restrictions: madara can't summon kurama. neither have hagoromo's chakra.

Scenario 2: replace ems madara with sm hashirama.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

The Hyuga stomp

EMS Sasuke and EMS Madara are enough to solo the whole clan
OP: I'm not really sure. IF we go by Teen EMS Sasuke PS then he gets destroyed. If we assume Sasuke through time has evolved his PS to much higher level of power then Sasuke wins.

 

[BLAZE]

Don't see how sasuke wins

Dat scenario 2 lmao

 

[DHOH]

Adult Sasuke wins

 

[Tarkatower]

EMS Madara is not winning this

 

[ARGUS]

Sasuke loses both

 

[Ambivalence]

There's zero reason why Adult EMS Sasuke's PS wouldn't be at Madara's level, going by Orochimaru's statement and the fact that he is the current Indra reincarnation.

It's either a draw or Sasuke wins against Madara. SM Hashirama wipes the floor with him, as a large part of the reason why Madara survived that long was due to Kurama, which Sasuke doesn't have.

 

[bowflex]

There's zero reason why Adult EMS Sasuke's PS wouldn't be at Madara's level, going by Orochimaru's statement and the fact that he is the current Indra reincarnation.

It's either a draw or Sasuke wins against Madara. SM Hashirama wipes the floor with him, as a large part of the reason why Madara survived that long was due to Kurama, which Sasuke doesn't have.

so no rikudo chakra adult ems sasuke > ems madara? just because of orochimarus statement according to you, when really oro has no idea about madaras power

sasuke loses both.

 

[Ambivalence]

so no rikudo chakra adult ems sasuke > ems madara? just because of orochimarus statement according to you, when really oro has no idea about madaras power

sasuke loses both.

Doesn't matter. It's Kishimoto who wrote that line, not to mention Orochimaru saw Edo Madara's performance. And yeah, that coupled with the fact that Sasuke is Indra's current reincarnation, plus seeing the massive growth his chakra potency underwent in just two years, increased by another 15 or so makes him at least on Madara's level.

Sasuke draws or wins against Madara, loses against Hashirama.

 

[Scryed]

Ahhh yes then I'll give it to Sasuke.

Not sure if he'd lose against Hashirama though but that depends if he improves on his PS to the point where it can actually defeat Shinsusenju. Madara wasn't able to but it did seem like Sasuke had more potential

 

[NarutoX28]

No reason why Adult EMS Sasuke isn't above EMS Madara due to Orochimaru's own statement and the fact that Sasuke as a Teen could replicate everything that Madara could do with his Eternal Mangekyo in a single day, albeit on a smaller scale. That alone suggests that Sasuke had more potential than EMS Madara.

Sasuke likely loses to SM Hashirama. Enton Kagutsuchi is a great counter, but he gets stomped once Buddha comes into play.

 

[Edogawa]

Sasuke never produced Legged Susanoo or PS by his own Chakra. He produced it because of Kurama's Chakra as the manga have shown. The so called portrayal is irrelevant because it was made by someone who never saw Madara's capabilities. Sasuke's portrayal to surpass Madara would be contradictory for the fact Naruto wasn't portrayed to surpass Hashirama, as both characters are in parallel. Sasuke's fans are desperate so they decided to hand-out feats.

He gets slaughtered in both scenarios with non-existent difficulty.

 

[neosmith500]

No reason why Adult EMS Sasuke isn't above EMS Madara due to Orochimaru's own statement and the fact that Sasuke as a Teen could replicate everything that Madara could do with his Eternal Mangekyo in a single day, albeit on a smaller scale. That alone suggests that Sasuke had more potential than EMS Madara.

Madara seemed to have had much stronger/bigger chakra than Sasuke and was potrayed all round superior in skill/stats as a kid , seein that he was way above the likes CE CS1 Sasuke at the same age even before madara awakened the stronger chakra granted by the sharingan while sasuke already had CM and 2T.

So his MS Chakra would be >>> Sasuke's and by extension his EMS at similar ages, with madara having the edge in CQC/Taijutsu seein as he was born and raised on the battlefield and has much more battle EXP.


But Oro's statement does hold true but iot doesn't mean he'd win the fight , so i'd give sasuke the win 8/10 times.


It would come down to PS VS PS and Madara seemed to have had much bigger and stronger than while he was transmigrant so i'd bet that his would have the edge based on that.

 

[Holy God]

Based on what we know about Madara, he loses. Him and Sasuke are essentially the same characters in terms of abilities but I doubt his gunbai would make up for Amaterasu which Sasuke has, especially since we have no idea what Madara's two Mangekyou Sharingan abilities are. If we take those into account though, it's a tie.

As for Hashirama, Sasuke most likely loses. Like Madara, he'll keep up until Sage Art: Wood Style: True Several Thousand Hands. While Madara had the destructive advantages here, Sasuke has the mobility. Since he won't be harboring Kurama, he'll be able to fly and avoid the hands while also slashing them. If he'd be able to pull this off it'd result in a tie, otherwise he'll lose.

 

[bowflex]

Doesn't matter. It's Kishimoto who wrote that line, not to mention Orochimaru saw Edo Madara's performance. And yeah, that coupled with the fact that Sasuke is Indra's current reincarnation, plus seeing the massive growth his chakra potency underwent in just two years, increased by another 15 or so makes him at least on Madara's level.

Sasuke draws or wins against Madara, loses against Hashirama.

agreed.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kishimoto has portrayed that an Adult Sasuke would be above EMS Madara in power, so he wins. But he gets washed by Hashirama as usual when these threads are made. :lol

 

[King Of Pop]

orochimarus statement was based on a decent amount of research and knowledge he had acquired over the years, he and kabuto studied the secrets of madaras body so he DOES know about madaras capabilties. Tobirama stated he had madaras potential and he knows a lot about madara and his statement was teen sasuke, this is adult sasuke for gods sake. people would ask for feats which is understandable but that doesnt mean we should just ignore statements like that. The reason why madara seemed so superior to sasuke because he was an adult so his chakra had matured greatly compared to Teen sasuke. now sasuke is an adult with a decent amount of time for his own chakra to mature, i say he wins, its only logical imo.

hashirama tho beats him with ease. Ps is not enough to fight the buddha

 

[NarutoX28]

Madara seemed to have had much stronger/bigger chakra than Sasuke and was potrayed all round superior in skill/stats as a kid , seein that he was way above the likes CE CS1 Sasuke at the same age even before madara awakened the stronger chakra granted by the sharingan while sasuke already had CM and 2T.

So his MS Chakra would be >>> Sasuke's and by extension his EMS at similar ages, with madara having the edge in CQC/Taijutsu seein as he was born and raised on the battlefield and has much more battle EXP.


But Oro's statement does hold true but iot doesn't mean he'd win the fight , so i'd give sasuke the win 8/10 times.


It would come down to PS VS PS and Madara seemed to have had much bigger and stronger than while he was transmigrant so i'd bet that his would have the edge based on that.

That doesn't really mean that Adult Madara > Adult Sasuke based on the fact that Kid Madara > Kid Sasuke when Sasuke's own growth accelerated through proper training. It's really like saying that Person A is going to be inferior to Person B as Adults based on how they compared as kids. That's not how it works and it ignores various factors such as Potential, Training, Growth, and Circumstances with the cirumstances being that Kid Madara was in a constant time of war with the strongest clan in existence whereas Sasuke wasn't which was implied to be the reason why Sasuke paled in comparison to Itachi.

Kid Sasuke hardly had proper timing up until Kakashi's training before his fight with Gaara where his growth accelerated and it grew even further with Orochimaru's training. His own Potential was above Madara's as stated, and he grew exponentially in just a year, something that eclipses Madara's own growth.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Madara shit stomps Sasuke.

 

[neosmith500]

That doesn't really mean that Adult Madara > Adult Sasuke based on the fact that Kid Madara > Kid Sasuke when Sasuke's own growth accelerated through proper training. It's really like saying that Person A is going to be inferior to Person B as Adults based on how they compared as kids. That's not how it works and it ignores various factors such as Potential, Training, Growth, and Circumstances with the cirumstances being that Kid Madara was in a constant time of war with the strongest clan in existence whereas Sasuke wasn't which was implied to be the reason why Sasuke paled in comparison to Itachi.

I fully agree with this but one cant say madara had proper training since his training was implied bein done on the battlefield against adult senjus which shows more skill based on the fact that he survived and killed them before he even got a boost in stats by his sharingan.

Put Sasuke in a similar situation where he had to learn on the battlefield fighting against people much higher than Zabuza's Level and he'd be killed along with the fact that madara was noted to have particularly Strong and Big Chakra as a kid.

But i do agrre that it doesn't mean Adult Sasuke would be inferior to Madara as i8 noted in my above post.

Kid Sasuke hardly had proper timing up until Kakashi's training before his fight with Gaara where his growth accelerated and it grew even further with Orochimaru's training. His own Potential was above Madara's as stated, and he grew exponentially in just a year, something that eclipses Madara's own growth.

Even then his growth by kakashi pale in comparison to the growth madara gained on a regular basis by fighting High level Adults who would wipe the floor with genin/chunin level ninjas , and the growth sasuke gained from Oro pales in comparison to the level Madara would've reached at a similar age due to wars , along with the fact that Sasuke was still weaker than Oro , then Sasuke gained MS which would still pale in comparison to the Chakra and Power of Madara's MS along with his honed and refined stats gained from constant battle , edged by a non stop drive to become stronger.

I really dont see where madara's growth was overshadowed by Sasukes until he gained Hago's Chakra but we do have a logical deduction by kishi that adult sasuke surpassed madara in power which is why i gave Sasuke the win 8/10 times.