What are you 12? The only difference between an extremist and a moderate is the actions they're willing to take in the will of their beliefs. Both read the same holy book and observe the same holy laws and principle, the only difference is extremist are willing to follow through on the commands of the quran, while moderates half ass it.
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This is Idiotic, ignoring the clear fact that this by itself is a huge difference that sets them miles apart, there's also more to it. Being convinced about quran's teaching simply doesn't make you extremists.
ex·trem·ist
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a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action
Shit argument, but this expected this is nb after all. Take your own base as an example and tell me if a of these members interpret the manga the same exact way. A good example of why such ideology of running toward other gay people and killing them, is the mere fact that quran had actually never ordered muslims to kill non muslims gays as it refers to those following its teaching when using "ye" or "you", some argue. You're basically saying that an extremist is definitely on a great level of understanding/passion of quran just beacuse they hold a ridiculous, fanatical view of it.
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Allow me to preface my reply with this note; Why the **** nb users love to downplay or try to invalidate other nb users arguments based off the fact they're using nb, is beyond me.
Your analogy to manga readers and the manga and the Quran and Muslims, is illogical. The Quran is a religious book with objective laws and commandments, where as manga is nothing more than a story book that is subjective and open to interpretation and opinion.
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And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
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Maybe because alot of what is said here is quite reatrded. Also are you implying that manga has no objective statements that are up to debate? Smh
Interpretation number 1
Islam is asking its followers to fight the oppressors and show them what they have shown quran's followers. Refrain from battling thwm in the mosque, but if they fight you there first, then you are allowed to fight back and defend yourself even if you kill them.
Interpretation number 2(pehaps a potential understanding froman extremist)
Islam is asking to fight anyone who is not part of it and is not supportive for it , thus oppressive toward its expansion and infulence. One must also slaughter them when they are caught.Avoid fighting them at the mosque but if they do themselves then you must kill them there.
Can probably come with 2 more this is without even reading much through the context and the verses before it which would naturally produce even more speculation and interpretation
You are taking that verse out of context. That verse was revealed at the time Prophet Muhammed and his companions were being killed and oppressed by the idol worshippers. The Qur'an specifically says, "Killing a single person is like killing all of mankind". If you want to accuse Islam of something that it is not at least do some research. These 'extremists are killing far more Muslims than any other group. They kill 8O% Muslims and 20% others.
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The dude was an idiot, he was a sympathizer of terrorist organizations that would often wage war on each other.
The entire basis of Islamic Extremists is their thought that they are the only true Muslims. They constantly accuse 'moderates' or even Muslims of different sects as being heretics and non-believers.
This is a major sin known as Takfir, so when people say they are the true Muslims, it's complete bullshit. How are they anymore true when their entire existence is based off of a major sin?
Then why are there so many different sects with so many different interpretations and scholars constantly giving their opinions? Also, translations and semantics are key to interpreting. It's why we have not changed to the modern language and also one of the reasons the Bible has essentially changed so much. The Arabic of that time is also difficult to interpret.
I'm sure you're smart enough to know that's referring to when Muslims are oppressed, it says right there.
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I love it when people quote this Ayah to prove Islam is "evil", as it shows just how ignorant they are of the religion, when they don't even know the context of the Ayah. Go study the life of Prophet Muhammad before accusing the Quran of such things, as every Ayah correlates with an event in the prophet's life. Moreover, while you're at it, go learn Arabic or at the least, have someone who knows Arabic explain to you the Quran's Tafseet, before coming here to comment on these Ayahs.
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[video=youtube;OjuvpNVFNAk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjuvpNVFNAk[/video]
Mateen was shooting people on the floor to make sure they were dead
(the survivor was shot 5 times in total I believe, first three shots to the leg shattered his bone, he played dead and was shot in the hip and in the hand, but still managed to stay still enough to fool Mateen. Brave and Blessed soul.)
Mateen was shooting people on the floor to make sure they were dead
(the survivor was shot 5 times in total I believe, first three shots to the leg shattered his bone, he played dead and was shot in the hip and in the hand, but still managed to stay still enough to fool Mateen. Brave and Blessed soul.)
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How the hell did that guy's cousin survive by playing dead?[video=youtube;OjuvpNVFNAk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjuvpNVFNAk[/video]
Mateen was shooting people on the floor to make sure they were dead
(the survivor was shot 5 times in total I believe, first three shots to the leg shattered his bone, he played dead and was shot in the hip and in the hand, but still managed to stay still enough to fool Mateen. Brave and Blessed soul.)
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I was wondering if this is the guy he was talking about, he said his cousin played dead, but there are probably a couple victims who did this as well. Its all very sad either way.How the hell did that guy's cousin survive by playing dead?
Then why even post here, just keep it to yourself.
[video=youtube;1-cqjDL1esU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-cqjDL1esU[/video]
One victim, after he was shot, ran into the restroom and soon collapsed on the floor. Norman Casiano, who was hiding in a stall in the bathroom with many others, tried to console the victim since there was no more room in the stall. Norman assured him everything would be fine, he told him to breath and to look him in the eyes.
" I dont want to die" was the victims last words as Mateen then came into the bathroom and shot the victim dead, laughing as he did so. Very ****ing sad:wesobi:
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Why do you guys watch this disturbing stuff? It messes up the brain, I wouldn't be able to sleep if I imagined the horrible scenes that happened there or are happening anywhere else on this planet right now.
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I live in Miami, so this is on every local news station (im pretty sure bbc and cnn and other international news outlets are covering this as well) we have to talk about these things, we cant sweep it under a rug or just stop mentioning or acknowledging it within 3 days. Besides the "fanfic" theories is still around.
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of course bro. this is a international community, its essential we share these things so our perspective grows
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Agreed. This kinda stuff can happen to anyone. We should all prepare for it so we get out of it safely.
Normally I wouldn't care about what people do unless there affiliated with me. I just want to say everyone has their reasons for what they do having that said,.... Terrorism has strong and ever lasting effects on people.... For example; U.S. vs. Vietnam, Germany vs. Jews, China vs. Japan, and etc. But my main point is just because he is a Muslim doesn't mean he is a terrorist, he just might had wanted to kill people. Years ago when that white guy shot up the movie theater where they were showing the new Batman movie, nobody called him a terrorist. I guess what I am really trying to say is that... Don't discriminate or stereotype people for who they are and people have their reasons on why they do things. Naruto should had thought you something like this.