Muh Peaceful People

[Erzo]

How does this disprove anything I said. Homophobes aren't isolated to one religion, but there are a much higher proportion of homophobic people who follow Islam compared to other religions because the Middle East never became effectively secularized.

I didn't say it did. I simply replied to you how you replied to me, by making an irrelevant fact. Yes lots of Muslims are homophobic, but so are a lot of Christians. It is not something that is tied to a specific religion. There are countries such as Uganda which have acts which allow them to lawfully kill gay people, this act was made roughly around 2014 so really recent when you think about it.

My point is that it's so recent yet that is the attitude held in this day and age, and this is from a country that is predominantly Roman Catholic.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Apparently by literally calling 911 and saying so.

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Why are obviously mentally ill and dangerous people even allowed to possess/buy guns? The US really needs to fix this, it's something that people both on the right and left agree on so why isn't anything done about this?

and the funny thing is he was still able to acquire guns didn't they say he was gone through background checks..the system is really that ****ed.

And people are still voting for Trump so the likes of him can still shoot innocent people. Well done America.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

How do you explain Atheists that don't like gays?

Wtf? How does this have anything to do with what I said? The fact that there are some homophobic atheists doesn't change the fact that lots of Muslims are homophobes.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I didn't say it did. I simply replied to you how you replied to me, by making an irrelevant fact. Yes lots of Muslims are homophobic, but so are a lot of Christians. It is not something that is tied to a specific religion. There are countries such as Uganda which have acts which allow them to lawfully kill gay people, this act was made roughly around 2014 so really recent when you think about it.

My point is that it's so recent yet that is the attitude held in this day and age, and this is from a country that is predominantly Roman Catholic.

You're right.

Applying "Homophobia" to a specific religion is a Malicious low blow. Every religion has "Homophobic" members and that applies to Atheist too.

Whatever the reason you either accept Homosexuality or you don't.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

If the guy was known to the FBI, why was he allowed to by a gun? Smh...

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I don't like any religion.


The Quran supports killing gay people.

Nope. The Abrahamic religions all clearly teach their followers that homosexuality is an abomination, which is why so many blind followers of these three religions believe this homophobic bullshit.

see there you go misinterpreting things again. I never said I am for Homosexuality. I'm not. But how does killing a bunch of people solve the issue. If you ever wish to change anything, its through love not fear.

If the guy was known to the FBI, why was he allowed to by a gun? Smh...

because he was a citizen, you cant violate some ones constitutional rights to bare arms just because they're suspicious. They should have simply kept an eye on em, monitored him. Almost as if they wanted something this to happen to push some sort of political agenda. But I digress I'm just the paranoid guy who has no reason to distrust his government.


ABRE LOS OJOS

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Wtf? How does this have anything to do with what I said? The fact that there are some homophobic atheists doesn't change the fact that lots of Muslims are homophobes.

The point is that you are saying they're are lots of Muslim "Homophobes" which is an obvious and irrelevant fact considering that their are plenty of Non-Muslim "Homophobes" too.

So I'm not really getting the point you're trying to make.

 

[Punk Hazard]

see there you go misinterpreting things again. I never said I am for Homosexuality. I'm not. But how does killing a bunch of people solve the issue. If you ever wish to change anything, its through love not fear.

Didn't Guy Fawkes attempt to bring change by blowing up Parliament in a terrorist act?

Anyways, this isn't Naruto. Love isn't always going to be a practical method of dealing with dangerous extremists of any kind.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

The point is that you are saying they're are lots of Muslim "Homophobes" which is an obvious and irrelevant fact considering that their are plenty of Non-Muslim "Homophobes" too.

So I'm not really getting the point you're trying to make.

I never said there aren't plenty of non-Muslim homophobes. I'm just saying that the proportion of Muslims ware homophobic is higher than that of most other groups of people.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I never said there aren't plenty of non-Muslim homophobes. I'm just saying that the proportion of Muslims ware homophobic is higher than that of most other groups of people.

It is always good to bring out statistics too, but you have go t to consider that Muslim is one of the largest religions on earth, so naturally they will have a large population of Homophobes.

I'm not saying you are wrong but you are not making a solid point either.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

The point is that you are saying they're are lots of Muslim "Homophobes" which is an obvious and irrelevant fact considering that their are plenty of Non-Muslim "Homophobes" too.

So I'm not really getting the point you're trying to make.

Exactly.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

It is always good to bring out statistics too, but you have go t to consider that Muslim is one of the largest religions on earth, so naturally they will have a large population of Homophobes.

I'm not saying you are wrong but you are not making a solid point either.

Exactly.

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You do know what a proportion is right? Population size doesn't matter for proportions. I am making a solid point but you just refuse to believe it.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Didn't Guy Fawkes attempt to bring change by blowing up Parliament in a terrorist act?

Anyways, this isn't Naruto. Love isn't always going to be a practical method of dealing with dangerous extremists of any kind.

Listen sir, was it aimed toward citizens (innocents) or oppressors? exactly. Guy Fawkes actions didnt even get a chance to work and yet his "will" to resist still lives and inspires the like minded and oppressed and subjected.

And art reflects reality(Naruto), Love conquers all my friend.

and terrorism has many faces

 

[Ciao]

i do not like islam, but what can we do? i am sensible and i know we can't simply deport every muslim. we can't intern them. what is the solution?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

i do not like islam, but what can we do? i am sensible and i know we can't simply deport every muslim. we can't intern them. what is the solution?

The solution is for america to look beyond race or religion and sit down to actually think about this.

 

[Made in Heaven]

While Islam does not condone homosexuality, I can assure just as much that it doesn't at all condone the mocking of the murders of others. Allah has said that he has given dignity and honor to all humans, regardless of who they are, so to mock and ridicule their deaths is unacceptable.

I never said there aren't plenty of non-Muslim homophobes. I'm just saying that the proportion of Muslims ware homophobic is higher than that of most other groups of people.

You think that has something to do with the fact that we believe the act is evil?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

While Islam does not condone homosexuality, I can assure just as much that it doesn't at all condone the mocking of the murders of others. Allah has said that he has given dignity and honor to all humans, regardless of who they are, so to mock and ridicule their deaths is unacceptable.



You think that has something to do with the fact that we believe the act is evil?

Obviously the majority of Muslims are homophobes because they have been conditioned to believe homosexuality is evil. What kind of question is that?

 

[Made in Heaven]

The Quaran does support killing anyone that opposes "Allah" including Gay people.
But it also states numerous times to be kind and loving towards everyone even if they disagree with you.

Because of that contradiction their are Muslims(That believe in Peace) and Radical Muslims(That believe in killing opposition).

Not true at all. If that were the case, explain to me why Prophet Muhammad allowed Christians to pray in his mosque to Prophet Jesus? The Quran does not at all teach to just mindlessly kill all those who oppose Allah, that's utter rubbish. Study the life of Prophet Muhammad and you will easily realize this. If Muslims killed any non-muslims all the time, explain to me how Islam spread across the world with nothing more than words?

Obviously. What kind of question is that?

So what's the problem then?

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You do know what a proportion is right? Population size doesn't matter for proportions. I am making a solid point but you just refuse to believe it.

Wikislam? Riiight :lol

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Not true at all. If that were the case, explain to me why Prophet Muhammad allowed Christians to pray in his mosque to Prophet Jesus? The Quran does not at all teach to just mindlessly kill all those who oppose Allah, that's utter rubbish. Study the life of Prophet Muhammad and you will easily realize this. If Muslims killed any non-muslims all the time, explain to me how Islam spread across the world with nothing more than words?



So what's the problem then?



Wikislam? Riiight :lol

The problem is that you Muslims (and other religious people) have been indoctrinated to believe homosexuality is evil even though there is no reason to believe that, and as a result people like this shooter go around killing innocent gay people.

 

[slimreaper]

Well there are Christians who might be the same way.

These people think they're right bc they grew up backwards

it's funny how the intercourse that can't produce children is thought of as the right way but people who are against it are "backward".


I don't think you know what backward means.