Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNaruto

[To Whatever]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

You reply to quick. Missed my edit, "He easily could have.

Your counter is the non-existent page which states Sasuke for some reason can't enter his mind with the 6 Tomoe Rinnegan even though he did so with the 3 Tomoe Sharingan."

The location they were in was never given a name. So i referred to it by it's setting - a blank white space. Nothing more. When i say white space you know exactly what i mean. But i see you're just joking on purpose.

I never said Sasuke would use Genjutsu on Kaguya. I literally never even thought about that til now considering how ridiculous it is.




He didnt notice that Naruto was gathering NE til he was almost finished. Even if he did then he likely would have let him. After all, he was trying to push Naruto to fight seriously. Sasuke wanted a good battle, not a one sided slaughter. That is the only in story reason we could make as to why he didn't just enter Naruto's mind, and own the Kyuubi as soon as the battle started.




The only other stuff Naruto had was using a massive amount of Shadow Clones, and using the other Bijuus powers to create different RasenShuriken. But instead of doing the latter, he went above by using the Bijuus strongest technique, the Bijuubomb several times. And the more clones he makes, the more he divides his power. So that's not effective either.

@bold

Damn, you and NextGenNinja are bringing up good points. This was some of the stuff i've already had in mind when i said Sasuke was restricted from ultilizing his abilities to his full advantage. I'll go ahead and go into detail since you brought it up.


Against Itachi Sasuke summoned and threw a massive amount of Shuriken within seconds.

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Against Naruto he only summoned and threw 3 Shuriken literally as he was falling to the ground, which each took out an entire clone. Then he got up activated Chidori and charged at what he thought was the real Naruto. Upon being hit the clone disappeared and he was punched by the real Naruto.

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Instead of charging at him with Chidori, he could have easily summoned more Shurikens and safely threw them from a distance. That's efficient. He would conserve chakra and physical energy, and wouldn't have to worry about being hit himself.


Aside from not using Genjutsu, Chibaku Tensei, and Bansho Tenin on Naruto, even though he easily did so against all the Bijuu. There's several other abilities that he didn't use even though they would have been verh effective.

During the Final Rasengan and Chidori clash, instead of using Enton Chidori, Sasuke could have extended his Chidori as he and Naruto were charging towards each other, then slash him.

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In his battle against Bee, from a distance and with little reaction time, he easily extended Chidori and it sliced through the Hachibi's tentacle like butter.

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Or he could have used Chidori Spear or Senbon to hit Naruto from a distance.

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There was no need to get in close range with Enton Chidori.

If he's going to attack from close up then Chidori Stream is best suited for that. It's both an attack and defense.

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Sir i did not miss your edit and I never had a counter against such excellent logic. I throughly read each and every one of your well constructed posts. And i agree about the 6 tomoe and how it genjutsu the naruto guy with kurama!. This non existant counter of a non existant page simply does not exist! since i agree with your sound and intellectual reasoning. Genjutsu is overkill just give him his mighty sword! And eye mastery!

You are so very smart! How come no one argues this after 2 years after manga over in the Naruto! series!
Explain!

Kaguya loses to Sasuke sword! I agree with that too.

 

[Shruikan]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

You reply to quick. Missed my edit, "He easily could have.

Your counter is the non-existent page which states Sasuke for some reason can't enter his mind with the 6 Tomoe Rinnegan even though he did so with the 3 Tomoe Sharingan."

The location they were in was never given a name. So i referred to it by it's setting - a blank white space. Nothing more. When i say white space you know exactly what i mean. But i see you're just joking on purpose.

I never said Sasuke would use Genjutsu on Kaguya. I literally never even thought about that til now considering how ridiculous it is.




He didnt notice that Naruto was gathering NE til he was almost finished. Even if he did then he likely would have let him. After all, he was trying to push Naruto to fight seriously. Sasuke wanted a good battle, not a one sided slaughter. That is the only in story reason we could make as to why he didn't just enter Naruto's mind, and own the Kyuubi as soon as the battle started.




The only other stuff Naruto had was using a massive amount of Shadow Clones, and using the other Bijuus powers to create different RasenShuriken. But instead of doing the latter, he went above by using the Bijuus strongest technique, the Bijuubomb several times. And the more clones he makes, the more he divides his power. So that's not effective either.

@bold

Damn, you and NextGenNinja are bringing up good points. This was some of the stuff i've already had in mind when i said Sasuke was restricted from ultilizing his abilities to his full advantage. I'll go ahead and go into detail since you brought it up.


Against Itachi Sasuke summoned and threw a massive amount of Shuriken within seconds.

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Against Naruto he only summoned and threw 3 Shuriken literally as he was falling to the ground, which each took out an entire clone. Then he got up activated Chidori and charged at what he thought was the real Naruto. The clone stopped his arm and he was punched by the real Naruto.

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Instead of charging at him with Chidori, he could have easily summoned more Shurikens and safely threw them from a distance. That's efficient. He would conserve chakra and physical energy, and wouldn't have to worry about being hit himself.


Aside from not using Genjutsu, Chibaku Tensei, and Bansho Tenin on Naruto, even though he easily did so against all the Bijuu. There's several other abilities that he didn't use even though they would have been verh effective.

During the Final Rasengan and Chidori clash, instead of using Enton Chidori, Sasuke could have extended his Chidori as he and Naruto were charging towards each other, then slash him.

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In his battle against Bee, from a distance and with little reaction time, he easily extended Chidori and it sliced through the Hachibi's tentacle like butter.

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Or he could have used Chidori Spear or Senbon to hit Naruto from a distance.

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There was no need to get in close range with Enton Chidori.

If he's going to attack from close up then Chidori Stream is best suited for that. It's both an attack and defense.

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See the above? Sasuke could have killed Naruto with or without mastery of his Rinnegan and or his Sword.

Dude you do realise he is just baiting you

 

[To Whatever]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Dude you do realise he is just baiting you

I am agreeing with him! His words of wisdom is paramount to my understanding of the white spaces and genjutsu and sword!

Defrat Kaguyaaa!

Naruto negged!

 

[Shruikan]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

I am agreeing with him! His words of wisdom is paramount to my understanding of the white spaces and genjutsu and sword!

Defrat Kaguyaaa!

Naruto negged!

Yup I agree

 

[To Whatever]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Yup I agree

+rep everitim

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

This guy gets it.



We can in detailand point out many ways that last battle would've ended, hell thunder storms were present after their clash and had Sasuke used even a mini Kirin that time, Naruto would have been Narutoast.

Black chidori had shown better paralysis powers than normal chidori and it's able to stop JJ madara movement and Core CT pretty much impossible to escape and not to mention he can teleport and use juts up with his PS. (Just imagine PS Chidori spear)

KishI pretty much drove himself to a corner with Sasuke and his broken combined techniques.

Oh yeah his teleportation.

Back in Part two with him being new to the Rinnegan he was only able to teleport across short distances 3 times before he needed rest. After Part two he developed his Chakra and Rinnegan far enough to be able to cross dimensions.

Considering he is now able to cross over to whole other dimensions, it's obvious that he can teleport far more than he did in Part two. How will Naruto even be able to land a hit on him? He can see through and predict movements, is quick enough to physically dodge them, and can dodge without even physically moving by teleporting.

His teleportation itself gives him a big advantage over Naruto.

- if Naruto launches an attack at at him, he can easily swap it with anything so he doesn't get hit, or wait to the last second then switch places with Naruto so he gets hit by it, like what he did to Madara with his Sword.

- He could launch a Susano'o arrow at a Tree, Boulder, or whatever else, swap Naruto with it at the last second so Naruto gets hit.

- Activate Chidori, swap Naruto with something near him so he gets hit right away, like he did to Madara hence why he was immediately hit by their Rasengan and Chidori. Etc upon etc.

And they're supposed to have another battle.

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Dude you do realise he is just baiting you

Clearly. Did you not see my earlier comment to him stating that i know he's just joking?

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[YellowFang]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Sasuke...

 

[LoZelda101]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Lol

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But seriously thou. I doubt would had been useful atleast until near the end when they both were practically drained.

 

[Aznkidd]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Who is more lucky Sasuke or Kaguya ?

Naruto is tired after fighting the world war with more than 90% victory done by him ?
Not only that after creating clones, every times it pops up Naruto will received exactly it's fatigue :lol
So i think Sasuke is more lucky since Naruto did not use the same amount of Clones to attack Sasuke and Naruto is millions time weaker than because thanks to clone's fatigue :lol


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[Naruto X Hunter]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Sasuke...

Is Superior to Naruto.

Lol

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But seriously thou. I doubt would had been useful atleast until near the end when they both were practically drained.

Naruto's not immortal. Being pierced through the heart would immediately kill him.

Who is more lucky Sasuke or Kaguya ?

Naruto is tired after fighting the world war with more than 90% victory done by him ?
Not only that after creating clones, every times it pops up Naruto will received exactly it's fatigue :lol
So i think Sasuke is more lucky since Naruto did not use the same amount of Clones to attack Sasuke and Naruto is millions time weaker than because thanks to clone's fatigue :lol


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That's all you got? So easy.

Haven't been there in awhile, all i had to do was go to my messages and open the one titled, "Chakra and Exhaustion". I've countered those points many times.

Chakra & Exhaustion

The amount of chakra both Naruto and Sasuke lost, aswell as their physical exhaustion from before the Sage Power up doesn't matter.

The Sage not only replaced but far surpassed the amount of chakra they lost when he gave them half of his chakra, plus Naruto was able to use the chakra he had from all the other Bijuu, and had Natural Energy & Senjutsu boost.

Besides, who's chakra was Naruto using beforehand? The Yang Kyuubi, who was replaced by the Yin Kyuubi when he got the Sage Power up.

As for their physical exhaustion, they were both on the verge of death from getting owned by Madara. Naruto, from having the Kyuubi extracted from him, and Sasuke, from getting stabbed through his chest then falling like 30 feet to the ground.

After getting half the Sage's chakra, they got up perfectly fine, Naruto from recieving the Yin Kyuubi and Sasuke from Kabuto's involvement. & don't suddenly forget how the Yang Kyuubi's chakra healed Naruto throughout the whole story.

- Chapter 11, After Naruto was posioned by the Mist Ninjas, he stabbed himself with a Kunai, to let his blood flow to wash out the poison. When Kakashi checked his wound a few seconds later, it was already almost fully healed.

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- Against Haku, Naruto was sliced many times, even passed out from it. Once he went Kyuubi his wounds completely healed.

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- Sasuke stabbed his Chidori right through Naruto, he was critically injured, & unable to use his right arm, & just alittle of the Kyuubi's chakra healed it in seconds, he wasn't even in One Tails mode.

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Yet, Naruto, who had access to ALL of the Yang Kyuubi's chakra for a large portion of the war, wasn't rejuvenated? Nor did he recover any of the chakra he lost despite the Sage's, & Bijuus chakra + NE & Senjutsu?

Yeah, right.

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The more clones Naruto makes the more he divides his power. Thus making them easier to take out.

 

[Aznkidd]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Is Superior to Naruto.



Naruto's not immortal. Being pierced through the heart would immediately kill him.



That's all you got? So easy.

Haven't been there in awhile, all i had to do was go to my messages and open the one titled, "Chakra and Exhaustion". I've countered those points many times.

You really forgot one thing :lol

STAMINA

/NARUTO X HUNTER

 

[UltraPain]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Whose more lucky? Naruto with only half a bijuu or Sasuke with 8.5 bijuu?

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

You really forgot one thing :lol

STAMINA

/NARUTO X HUNTER

Stamina - the ability to sustain prolonged physical or mental effort.

Yeah, that's your only legitmate point. But can that really be used in Naruto's favor? Naruto wasn't willing to sacrafice himself to become hated by everyone inorder to maintain long lasting peace. Naruto's biggest worry was what was going on right then, defeating the bad guys, and protecting his comrades. He already felt that peace would be maintained after the war with everyone living happily. Sasuke on the otherhand went through more mentally, atleast off the battlefield, with meeting up with Itachi, speaking to the Hokages, and forming his decisions for the future. On the battlefield Naruto went through more mentally - he was nearly on the verge of switching sides, and later on the ground crying as many people were being killed by the God Tree. It took Hinata and Sasuke to cheer him up.

Whose more lucky? Naruto with only half a bijuu or Sasuke with 8.5 bijuu?

LOL! People still use that false counter.

Nonsense. Naruto and Sasuke are equal in power. Sasuke used the Bijuus chakra so he could overpower him, which he did til the Kyuubi gave Naruto all the Natural Energy above ground. NE is combined with the users chakra to create Senjutsu, which futher powers the user up.

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When Sasuke got his boost, Naruto got one just a few pages later. So it's funny that you forgot about it, or perhaps you choose to not mention it to act like Naruto is Superior?

A big difference between the power up they got during their battle is that Sasuke attained the chakra on his own, while Naruto had the Kyuubi gather and give him chakra while he was busy fighting their opponent.

Furthermore, Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu aswell. The mode he's in requires it, hence the Gudoudama. Obito and Madara attained it aswell when they got chakra from all the Bijuu.

Naruto used the rest of their chakra against Sasuke, and never had it replenished, which is why he hasn't entered that mode since.

Also, the Bijuus were used throughout the whole war. First as part of the Edo Jins, then by 3 different Jinchuriki - Obito, Madara and Kaguya. Their chakra was used to cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi by Madara, Kaguya used it to open portals and switch dimensions several times, the latter of which was stated to even be costly for her, The Goddess of Chakra who also had the Shinjuu Tree itself powering her.

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And she used their chakra to form a single massive Gudoudama as an attempt to create a whole new dimension. Sasuke only absorbed a PORTION of what was left, not even all of it. Which includes the Yang Kyuubi, whom ran out of chakra multiple times when Naruto had him. Naruto had the Yin Kyuubi starting from the Sage power up.

By the way, the Kyuubi is the Strongest Bijuu. Remember when Tobi used several Fully Transformed Bijuu to create a single massive Bijuu Bomb? BM Naruto easily matched it, since then he has had multiple power ups.

 

[LoZelda101]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Is Superior to Naruto.



Naruto's not immortal. Being pierced through the heart would immediately kill him.



That's all you got? So easy.

Haven't been there in awhile, all i had to do was go to my messages and open the one titled, "Chakra and Exhaustion". I've countered those points many times.



The more clones Naruto makes the more he divides his power. Thus making them easier to take out.

Ameno combo maybe. But without the swap he would make sure to not get stabbed there. I think he did that last time in vote1 from the chidori.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Sarcasm is funny after the first or second time. This guy is just sucking the fun out of it. Well, OP have fun soloing these naysayers.

The Op has never soloed anybody in his life. So don't get cocky now.

 

[123fire]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Didn't read

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Ameno combo maybe. But without the swap he would make sure to not get stabbed there. I think he did that last time in vote1 from the chidori.

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Considering where his hand slide towards after the techniques canceled each other out, Naruto went in for the forehead scratch. He wasn't concerned about shielding himself.

Didn't read

Good idea, i should put warnings at the top of my threads warning people to not read if they don't want to realize that Sasuke is Superior to Naruto. Or atleast understand it in such depth.

Regardless, either way facts remain the same whether one ignores it or not.

R.I.P Your feelings.

 

[Shruikan]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Who is more lucky Sasuke or Kaguya ?

Naruto is tired after fighting the world war with more than 90% victory done by him ?
Not only that after creating clones, every times it pops up Naruto will received exactly it's fatigue :lol
So i think Sasuke is more lucky since Naruto did not use the same amount of Clones to attack Sasuke and Naruto is millions time weaker than because thanks to clone's fatigue :lol


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Fatigue is a really stupid argument.Ever since Madara killed Naruto and Sasuke and they were given Rikudo Powers,both of them were rejuvenated and at full stamina.

Sasuke has never had a problem with Naruto's clones,why should he now?Not to mention Rinnegan Shinra Tensei is an excellent counter for them

 

[Styles]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Stamina - the ability to sustain prolonged physical or mental effort.

Yeah, that's your only legitmate point. But can that really be used in Naruto's favor? Naruto wasn't willing to sacrafice himself to become hated by everyone inorder to maintain long lasting peace. Naruto's biggest worry was what was going on right then, defeating the bad guys, and protecting his comrades. He already felt that peace would be maintained after the war with everyone living happily. Sasuke on the otherhand went through more mentally, atleast off the battlefield, with meeting up with Itachi, speaking to the Hokages, and forming his decisions for the future. On the battlefield Naruto went through more mentally - he was nearly on the verge of switching sides, and later on the ground crying as many people were being killed by the God Tree. It took Hinata and Sasuke to cheer him up.







LOL! People still use that false counter.

Nonsense. Naruto and Sasuke are equal in power. Sasuke used the Bijuus chakra so he could overpower Naruto, which he did til the Kyuubi gave Naruto all the Natural Energy above ground. NE is combined with the users chakra to create Senjutsu, which futher powers the user up.

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When Sasuke got his boost, Naruto got one just a few pages later. So it's funny that you forgot, or perhaps you choose to not mention it to act like Naruto is Superior?

A big difference between the power up they got during their battle is that Sasuke attained the chakra on his own, while Naruto had the Kyuubi gather and give him chakra while he was busy fighting their opponent.

Furthermore, Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu aswell. The mode he's in requires their chakra, hence the Gudoudama. Obito and Madara attained it aswell when they got chakra from all the Bijuu.

Naruto used the rest of their chakra against Sasuke, and never had it replenished, which is why he hasn't entered that mode since.

Also, the Bijuus were used throughout the whole war. First as part of the Edo Jins, then by 3 different Jinchuriki - Obito, Madara and Kaguya. Their chakra was used to cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi by Madara, Kaguya used it to open portals and switch dimensions several times, the latter of which was stated to even be costly for her, The Goddess of Chakra who also had the Shinjuu Tree itself powering her.

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And she used their chakra to form a single massive Gudoudama as an attempt to create a whole new dimension. Sasuke only absorbed a PORTION of what was left, not even all of it. Which includes the Yang Kyuubi, whom ran out of chakra multiple times when Naruto had him. Naruto had the Yin Kyuubi starting from the Sage power up.

By the way, the Kyuubi is the Strongest Bijuu. Remember when Tobi used several Fully Transformed Bijuu to create a single massive Bijuu Bomb? BM Naruto easily matched it, since then he has had multiple power ups.

@Bold The solo tho.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Stamina - the ability to sustain prolonged physical or mental effort.

Yeah, that's your only legitmate point. But can that really be used in Naruto's favor? Naruto wasn't willing to sacrafice himself to become hated by everyone inorder to maintain long lasting peace. Naruto's biggest worry was what was going on right then, defeating the bad guys, and protecting his comrades. He already felt that peace would be maintained after the war with everyone living happily. Sasuke on the otherhand went through more mentally, atleast off the battlefield, with meeting up with Itachi, speaking to the Hokages, and forming his decisions for the future. On the battlefield Naruto went through more mentally - he was nearly on the verge of switching sides, and later on the ground crying as many people were being killed by the God Tree. It took Hinata and Sasuke to cheer him up.







LOL! People still use that false counter.

Nonsense. Naruto and Sasuke are equal in power. Sasuke used the Bijuus chakra so he could overpower Naruto, which he did til the Kyuubi gave Naruto all the Natural Energy above ground. NE is combined with the users chakra to create Senjutsu, which futher powers the user up.

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When Sasuke got his boost, Naruto got one just a few pages later. So it's funny that you forgot, or perhaps you choose to not mention it to act like Naruto is Superior?

A big difference between the power up they got during their battle is that Sasuke attained the chakra on his own, while Naruto had the Kyuubi gather and give him chakra while he was busy fighting their opponent.

Furthermore, Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu aswell. The mode he's in requires their chakra, hence the Gudoudama. Obito and Madara attained it aswell when they got chakra from all the Bijuu.

Naruto used the rest of their chakra against Sasuke, and never had it replenished, which is why he hasn't entered that mode since.

Also, the Bijuus were used throughout the whole war. First as part of the Edo Jins, then by 3 different Jinchuriki - Obito, Madara and Kaguya. Their chakra was used to cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi by Madara, Kaguya used it to open portals and switch dimensions several times, the latter of which was stated to even be costly for her, The Goddess of Chakra who also had the Shinjuu Tree itself powering her.

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And she used their chakra to form a single massive Gudoudama as an attempt to create a whole new dimension. Sasuke only absorbed a PORTION of what was left, not even all of it. Which includes the Yang Kyuubi, whom ran out of chakra multiple times when Naruto had him. Naruto had the Yin Kyuubi starting from the Sage power up.

By the way, the Kyuubi is the Strongest Bijuu. Remember when Tobi used several Fully Transformed Bijuu to create a single massive Bijuu Bomb? BM Naruto easily matched it, since then he has had multiple power ups.

I need to fix that mistake

-First of all Rikudou Senjutsu on Naruto not required Bijuu chakra. Having all Bijuu but still separated not same as having complete Juubi.

Hagoromo can create TSB and fly even before becoming JJ, what about Hamura that never became a JJ but still had 5 TSB :sdo:

Thus his RS not attained from having all Bijuu but Hagoromo and Naruto existing Senjutsu mastery.

-Second, Kaguya is not Jinchuriki but Juubi itself.

Sorry even though I agree with everything you posted here dont mean you can make a mistakes in-front of me and just escape unpunished. :sdo3: