Can a fully realized Hyuga defeat an adequate Uchiha?
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neosmith500
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Only way for madara to win is with gunbai , nb4 juubi sized katon b4 senju cells/rikudo chakra=rinnegan amp.
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Gonna ignore kyuubi as it is stomp
Considering he repeteadly fought hashirama and knew how to turn his gigantic forest jutsu into coal i will say yes
Also his speed and reaction are on different tier since he killed multiple war era senjus
Curse Mark
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Are we arguing real characters or just hypotheticals?
IMO, Neji beats Sasuke up until VOTE. From there on out Sasuke wins every battle against his respective form of neji
IMO, Neji beats Sasuke up until VOTE. From there on out Sasuke wins every battle against his respective form of neji
neosmith500
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Kyuubi is beyond stomp.
Katon is countered and blown bck into madaras face via wall palm.
Bold: Yea he killed multiple adult war era senju as a kid with no sharingan , hardly any experience , no notable jutsus apart from katon and could barely skip a stone straight.
I guess we can use this knowledge to say that kid madara before sharingan can also stomp hiashi since he killed multiple war era senju , with wat? maybe a sword or kunai , katon?
Chunin Finals Sasuke would most likely god-stomp kid madara much less the war era adult senju's who got bested by him.
In regards to hashirama it was more like he repeatably got his ass handed to him but was spared each time and it wasn't until EMS that he could arguably stalemate a base hashirama.
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Sage Of 6Paths
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I ment to say tomes not time and i wasn't saying hyuga win or loses i was uchiha had ranged ninjitsu giving a little advantage over them
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neosmith500
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Lol bro come on , wat feats does kid madara w/o/sharingan have that suggest he can beat chunin finals sasuke or better yet base vote sasuke.
Sasuke would have stronger chakra due to his awakened and matured sharingan while kid madara bested adult war era senju before gaining 1T.
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CE Sasuke would get violated by any jounin tier shinobi at that point of time while madara was killing adult senjus a feat Hashirama's father Butsama senju acknowledged.
it was the era when they were considered strongest clan alongside uchiha's
neosmith500
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Ight man , So you'd put kid madara wo/sharingan at around adult kakashi's level? , how do u see this version of madara faring against VOTE Sasuke?
Kid madara before sharingan bein that much stronger than a sasuke who already awakened the special chakra granted by the sharingan and was already adept with 2T along with gai's taijutsu seems too full of holes to me , along with the fact that he had chidori and CM which greatly amps his chakra , Both are indra so im not seein wat would make madara so special in comparison.
Izuna's shocked dialog after hearing that there was a kid out there stronger than his brother makes it seem like madara was simply the strongest kid in the clan , but him beating adult senju
would imply that a kid madara without sharingan can also beat experienced 3T sharingan adults from the clan which seems kinda far fetched to me seein that with 3t they have access to genjutsu and wat not along with superiority in all stats which the adult senjus stalemated.
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hmnm where
Vote sasuke most likely pulls out win
What are u saying.He will still have kenjutsu and other ninjutsu.Not everyone in uchiha clan had sharingan
How does being Indra's transmigrant matters when with rikudo enhancement madara's PS will literally stomp sasuke
And u are gonna ignore him being at least jounin tier despite killing multiple adults of strongest clan becoz he did not have sharinhan.many in uchiha clan lacked it.
Add the fact his PS even V4 being as large as Full kyuubi so i don't see why he won't able spew maasive fire jutsu's he use against 5 kage's.Hashirama's cell did not enhance danzo'o fuuton to juubi lvl or anywhere close to what madara did
Lord Tywin
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Kid Madara shits on anything lower than vote CM2 Sasuke. He was killing adult senjus, which were equal to 3 tomoe adult uchihas, while having no sharingan. We can say that senju and uchiha jounins are easily more powerful than no name jounins, given the two clans were the strongest out there. Madara shits
I find a hard time believing that a guy who shat on Senju Adults is going to be inferior to CE Sasuke. Sorry, but if the Uchiha Clan were such a threat to Konoha that they could trigger an entire World War, there's no way these Senju Adults were inexperienced Chuunin. The Uchiha Clan during Sasuke's era alone were powerful enough to take down a few Kage as implied by Obito. The Senju Clan and Uchiha Clan in Madara's era were far more experienced and stronger due to being in a constant period of War. The Senju Adults alone were at least Mid-Jonin and Kid Madara absolutely shitting on them suggests that he's much stronger than CE Sasuke, regardless of whether or not he had the Sharingan.
neosmith500
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Around high jonin level.
Im talking about base vote sasuke without cm2 , this sasuke would logically still be weaker than senju adults who were equal to experienced 3t members right?
I was just trying to make sense of why madara was so way ahead of sasuke even at that time since this would imply that madara's kenjutsu/ninjutsu was so great he could also defeat adult uchiha's with 3T usin kenjutsu and ninjutsu since they tied with senju.
Ight due to lack of a better arguement ill concede , kid madara was more of a beast thn i fully realized due to lack of circumstantial evidence regarding his fights with the adult senju i was afraid to take everything at face value but yea taking everything into consideration him beating exp adult senju would put him at around mid/high jonin level before even sharingan.
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