Why do people discredit what Itachi did to Nagato

[LoZelda101]

That has to de take into consideration tho. not only was he controlled, ut he was crippled. And Itachi wasn't the only one fighting Nagato; It was naruto and Killer Dee too.

My point is he made a joke out of the 6 paths, doesn't matter if he was brainwashed or crippled. flames stomping regen dogs, closing all extra vision links with just kunai's, intercepting human and asura realm, and knowing the in's and out's of CT, all this and it wasn't even the full episode's worth :lol consideration? not really, jinks were about as relevant as sakura was against kaguya, as in aiding in to deliver the final blow. so are you going to give sakura the W for defeating kaguya? and what can legs and not being controlled going to change besides delaying the inevitable? it's not like his power depends on it. itachi already knows the vital points to most of those paths and he's an edo tensei. DSM kabuto even went as far to say that itachi had several ways to end the war, no doubt itachi earned his credit in ending nagato.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Kabuto, using Nagato, didn't even focus om Itachi. Face it, it wasn't one o one. To say it is that's ridiculous.

Naruto and Bee were getting shit stomped. Itachi carried them hard, not the other way around.

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That's why Kabuto said this

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[UltraPain]

He had unlimited Chakra, if he wanted to he could have taken it out by himself with Yasaka Magatama spam blitz gg.

He didn't have Totsuka out at the moment.

And Totsuka Blade can cut through anything(including CT) and seal anyone it pierces.

Besides Tsukuyomi negs Nagato zero diff.

With that logic, Nagato had unlimited chakra too and could have made a the whole earth into a CT lol. Or, he could have made mutiple CT and had them collide. OR, he could have shinra tensei'd the universe lol. OR he could have summoned gedo and used dragon soul ripping for eternity.


He didn't have totsuka out at the moment? That's it? Are you kidding me? He can take it out in a millisecond just like how he manifested yata against Kirin.

If totsuka could have sealed CT then Itachi would have done it. Why risk the other options?

Tsukuyomi negs? I doubt it. Nagato had a higher evolved rinnegan that came from Madara. I don't see that happening. Also, the more powerful IT never worked on edos so why would normal tsukuyomi work on edo Nagato?

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

With that logic, Nagato had unlimited chakra too and could have made a the whole earth into a CT lol. Or, he could have made mutiple CT na dhad them collide. OR, he could have shinra tensei'd the universe lol.


He didn't have totsuka out at the moment? That's it? Are you kidding me? He can take it out in a millisecond just like how he manifested yata against Kirin.

If totsuka could have sealed CT then Itachi would have done it. Why risk the other options?

Tsukuyomi negs? I doubt it. Nagato had a higher evolved rinnegan that came from Madara. I don't see that happening. Also, the more powerful IT never worked on edos so why would normal tsukuyomi work on edo Nagato?

Itachi never used Yata against Kirin he used Rib Cage GG

Jiraiya's genjutsu worked on Pain whom had Rinnegan

Tsukuyomi negs Nagato Mangaphax > Your doubt

Nagato get's negged by Tsukuyomi before he can even used CT.

And if he does use CT it's negged by Totsuka blitz GG

 

[UltraPain]

Itachi never used Yata against Kirin he used Rib Cage GG

Jiraiya's genjutsu worked on Pain whom had Rinnegan

Tsukuyomi negs Nagato Mangaphax > Your doubt

Nagato get's negged by Tsukuyomi before he can even used CT.

And he he does use CT it's negged by Totsuka blitz GG

Itachi can easily manifest his spiritual weapons just like how he did against Oro. Seriously it's lightning fast.

Jiraiya had gotten Nagato with a sound genjutsu, which is completely different from ocular. Remember even Itachi was trapped by sound genjutsu from Kabuto?

Saying "Tsukuyomi negs Mangaphax > Your doubt" doesn't prove s**t. Come at me with evidence bro. Explain how Madara's eyes fall to a genjutsu cast by lower evolved eyes.

"And he does use CT it's negged by Totsuka blitz GG". Once again, explain to me how that works. Itachi is a smart guy and would have used this right away if it was an option. It doesn't seem like the smartest move to involve Naruto and B in it if it runs the chance of them being killed. Even Itachi knew that if Naruto or B were killed then the war was over.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Itachi can easily manifest his spiritual weapons just like how he did against Oro. Seriously it's lightning fast.

Jiraiya had a sound genjutsu, which is completely different from ocular. Remember even Itachi was trapped by sound genjutsu against Kabuto.

Saying "Tsukuyomi negs Mangaphax > Your doubt" doesn't prove s**t. Come at me with evidence bro. Explain how Madara's eyes fall to a genjutsu cast by lower evolved eyes.

"And he does use CT it's negged by Totsuka blitz GG". Once again, explain to me how that works. Itachi is a smart guy and would have used this right away if it was an option. It doesn't seem like the best move then to involve Naruto and B in it if it runs the cance of them being killed. Even Itachi knew that if Naruto or B were killed then the war was over.

He can active his weapons at 1/1000th of a second, 4 times faster than sound. But he never used it on kirin and their is proof to back that up.

Itachi only got trapped in that Genjutsu because he refused to go serious and use Yata and Totsuka for the sake of the Mission.

The evolution of an eye doesn't dictate it's strength. If you don't have Sharingan and Uchiha Bloood you WILL get negged by Tsukuyomi. Nagato being an Uzumaki is all the proof I need.

And I know Itachi didn't use Totsuka to neg CT but if he wanted to he could have that's a mangafact, just because he chose not to do it doesn't mean he couldnt.

 

[UltraPain]

He can active his weapons at 1/1000th of a second, 4 times faster than sound. But he never used it on kirin and their is proof to back that up.

Itachi only got trapped in that Genjutsu because he refused to go serious and use Yata and Totsuka for the sake of the Mission.

The evolution of an eye doesn't dictate it's strength. If you don't have Sharingan and Uchiha Bloood you WILL get negged by Tsukuyomi. Nagato being an Uzumaki is all the proof I need.

And I know Itachi didn't use Totsuka to neg CT but if he wanted to he could have that's a mangafact, just because he chose not to do it doesn't mean he couldnt.

#facepalm Didn't you just say earlier that he "didn't have totsuka out at the moment"? Why does it matter then if we agree that he can manifest his weapons so fast? My argument was that totsuka obviously wasn't an option against CT because then Itachi would have tried it in 1/1000th of a second. :|

I just explained the genjustsu part earlier. IT was a much more powerful version of tsukuyomi that didn't work on edos, so how would the original version of tsukuyomi work on edo Nagato?

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

#facepalm Didn't you just say earlier that he "didn't have totsuka out at the moment"? Why does it matter then if we agree that he can manifest his weapons so fast? My argument was that totsuka obviously wasn't an option against CT because then Itachi would have tried it in 1/1000th of a second. :|

I just explained the genjustsu part earlier. IT was a much more powerful version of tsukuyomi that didn't work on edos, so how would the original version of tsukuyomi work on edo Nagato?

Itachi doesn't carelessly use his Trump cards. It isn't that surprising to me that he just decided to destroy it with Yasaka Magatama.

Tsukuyomi works on Nagato

1: IT may not work on Edo's but IT and Tsukuyomi are 2 completely different genjutsu's.

2: Genjutsu does work on edos.

3: Nagato doesn't meet the requirements to break Tsukuyomi. No where does it state that Tsukuyomi doesn't effect Edo's.

Regardless. The facts remain that Totsuka can cut anything(Including CT) and that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Uchiha Sharingan User.

Anything else is just opinions and speculation.

 

[blazekev90]

Who cares, the manga ended long ago. Both died and failed miserably.

 

[Joon]

Naruto and Bee were getting shit stomped. Itachi carried them hard, not the other way around.

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That's why Kabuto said this

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You missing the point.

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[123fire]

Don't act like a fodder, i didn't even reported you with your ugly ass alligator juubito sig

So now putting a sig is breaking the rules?

 

[NarutoX28]

But you are forgetting a point that killer b and naruto fell for kabuto's bait as they first believed nagato to be his own. They were talking to nagato as friends. But suddenly, kabuto took control over nagato. At that moment both killer b and naruto were restricting to attack him as they were considering him as their ally. Due to this, kabuto took advantage of it and used nagato to beat them. Please reread manga.

Itachi is surely a good shinobi and consider to be among top 20 shinobis of all times but UNFORTUNATELY HE CANT BEAT CONSCIOUS NAGATO. Accept it! One shinra tensei and Chibaku tensei could turn itachi's body into several pieces of flesh.


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Bee tried to hammer a poor defenseless Nagato with a diminished lifeforce with a V2 Lariat. What you're implying isn't supported by the manga at all.

 

[YellowFang]

- Negated the linked vision, nothing special...
- Handled summons, Naruto did that with ease...
- Knocked down a puppeteer-ed dead body...

 

[Scryed]

Kabuto was listening to the conversation Itachi, Naruto, and Bee we're having before he decided to repel the flames.


Kabuto was the one in control.


It was a 3 on 1.




The three main reasons why most people don't call that Itachi vs Nagato.

 

[UnknownJin]

Itachi stopped Nagato summoning/paths no prob

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Itachi even ripped of both of Nagato arms off did you ignore that factor? The only reason Nagato was able to continue the fight was because he had regenerating powers from edo tensei. I've seen excuses like Nagato wasn't in control of his body or Kabuto a noob at using the rinnengan, but when he was beating on both Killer B & KCM Naruto he wasn't looking noob like was he?

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