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He literally changed every single law that was mandated by the Jews that Jesus himself approved. There's a reason why Jews and Muslims both abstain from pork while Christians eat it.

He denounced circumcision.

None of Jesus's apostles accepted him.

I could go on and on.

Paul is the reason why Christianity has drifted so far from the original realm of God.
I know, and I believe that too. But insulting other people's religious figures isn't exactly a good thing to do.

Menma is right on the money though. I'll just let him speak my mind for me.



Red is such a beautiful color tho :pkool:
Which side are you even arguing for here? :lol
 
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Jesus was a Jew, sent by God to perform miracles to show the Jews (who had gone astray) to follow him and get back on the path to God.

Christians (specifically romans and that bastard Paul) took Jesus's teachings and ran with them, creating a whole other religion that was not suppose to exist.

Thus, Islam was born to correct everything pretty much.
You shouldn't make fun of other peoples religion because it will drive them away from Islam and you will make them make fun of Islam and Allah.
 

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I know, and I believe that too. But insulting other people's religious figures isn't exactly a good thing to do.



Which side are you even arguing for here? :lol
If a man is a murderer and people worship him as a God, does that not make him a murderer anymore?

Paul lied. He lied repeatedly. He distorted every single teaching that Jesus Christ taught.

Not only did he lie, he sucked in followers who were deceived into accepting his version of Christianity.

I am doing nothing but stating facts.
 

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They actually hated Him when He was in the world and briefly after, but now they changed their minds and acknowledged Jesus Christ as a great person
Really? Most Jewish sites and non-jewish sites often site him as a false Prophet/Messiah who is rejected by the Jews.

By "now" do you mean progressive Jews? Because I don't think they can be considered to be actually following Judaism just as progressive Muslims don't necessarily follow the Islamic teachings, and instead opt to change the laws of the religion.
 

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Which side are you even arguing for here? :lol
The side that is right, not that side that thinks is right. Why pick sides? That would be like a diehard republican voting for Trump simply because he is republican even though Trump goes against everything he stands for.
 

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I went back and viewed your post in this thread. None of them mention Paul or any type of coherent constructive input to this thread. I do not know why you told me to go back and look for replies because they have nothing to do with anything we're talking about. So, now this brings us back to the original point:

I called Paul a deceiver.

You called me a hater.

I listed numerous points on why I view him as such.

You did not respond and told me to go back and view the replies in the thread.

I did and found NOTHING that contributed to our discussion.

Can we talk now, or will you admit you have nothing to back up your claims?
 

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Really? Most Jewish sites and non-jewish sites often site him as a false Prophet/Messiah who is rejected by the Jews.

By "now" do you mean progressive Jews? Because I don't think they can be considered to be actually following Judaism just as progressive Muslims don't necessarily follow the Islamic teachings, and instead opt to change the laws of the religion.
In fact He was rejected by the Jews, but I'm pretty sure they now consider him as a great prophet. I'm talking about theologians and "common feeling". But I've always been taught this, and always thought it was a certain fact.

Also, what do you mean by progressive Muslims? Sufi or things like that?
 

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Really? Most Jewish sites and non-jewish sites often site him as a false Prophet/Messiah who is rejected by the Jews.

By "now" do you mean progressive Jews? Because I don't think they can be considered to be actually following Judaism just as progressive Muslims don't necessarily follow the Islamic teachings, and instead opt to change the laws of the religion.
What are Progressive Muslims?
 

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In fact He was rejected by the Jews, but I'm pretty sure they now consider him as a great prophet. I'm talking about theologians and "common feeling". But I've always been taught this, and always thought it was a certain fact.

Also, what do you mean by progressive Muslims? Sufi or things like that?
Well, most theologians considering Propeht Jesus to be a great person despite not being Christians isn't surprising, after all, there are also plenty of people who praise Prophet Muhammad's character and manners, but still reject his prophethood.

You've been taught that the Jews respect Prophet Jesus?

No, Sufi is a sect. When I say progressive Muslims, I mean those who want to change the laws of Islam simply to fit in with the laws and standards of society so as to fit in and not feel like outcasts. An easy example would be how some Muslims are advocating for same-*** marriages to be allowed in Islam, when that goes against what God wants, or how some Muslims want to consider Music permissible when that too is not allowed.

What are Progressive Muslims?
"Muslims" who think they know better than God.
 
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