[Discussion] Religion

[Avani]

Please do not quote long posts without spoiler tags. And it would be nice if you can learn to type without using coloured and bolded fonts unless you have a good reason to. They look terrible when used without discretion and distracting.

 

[nefraiko]

Please do not quote long posts without spoiler tags. And it would be nice if you can learn to type without using coloured and bolded fonts unless you have a good reason to. They look terrible when used without discretion and distracting.

ooooh hello theeiiir how are you ?

 

[Sex]

It can, do you underrate apologists huh?

So some people here said that the Creator had his own creator. I mean, then who exactly created the creator of our creator? It all gets to the point where it can't be answered. Because how can something come out of nothing? That's where everybody seems to get stuck: "Something out of nothing."

But I give props to those who delude themselves into thinking they are getting any closer to discovering God. :|

 

[Marin]

Please do not quote long posts without spoiler tags. And it would be nice if you can learn to type without using coloured and bolded fonts unless you have a good reason to. They look terrible when used without discretion and distracting.

Hah... heh.. I should go edit that 20 quote - 1 sentence then.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Bro, did you even read all the replies? Check the mini debate between Riker and TranzzistX

I mean there wasn't a correct answer.

 

[Deadlift]

So some people here said that the Creator had his own creator. I mean, then who exactly created the creator of our creator? It all gets to the point where it can't be answered. Because how can something come out of nothing? That's where everybody seems to get stuck: "Something out of nothing."

But I give props to those who delude themselves into thinking they are getting any closer to discovering God. :|

As already said, you will agree with me that a creator doesn't share the characteristics of his creation. This is not a detail. If we are referring to the God of the three major religions, we are referring to a unlimited, ineffable and trascendent being, aka a First Cause who does not share the characteristics of the things He created, and the need for a cause is one of these

 

[Marin]

I mean there wasn't a correct answer.

I'm all ears.

 

[Deadlift]

I mean there wasn't a correct answer.

Could you explain why you find those answers incorrect?

 

[nefraiko]

I'm all ears.

no, don't, just give up.

 

[Sex]

As already said, you will agree with me that a creator doesn't share the characteristics of his creation. This is not a detail. If we are referring to the God of the three major religions, we are referring to a unlimited, ineffable and trascendent being, aka a First Cause who does not share the characteristics of the things He created, and the need for a cause is one of these

Indeed.

Delve deeper into the so-called "First Cause" for me. Try and finish your theory so that I can leave convinced of God's existence.

 

[Dannie]

WTF? "WHO CHOSE IT FOR YOU" !!!!??? only muslims force their kids to be muslims or else they kill them, even if their muslim child falls in love with a non-muslim they kill their kid... WTF. happened many times in sweden

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OT; all religions are bullshit. there is no god what so ever.
religion is the biggest scam EVER. How come Islam thinks it's only year 1437 if christian people and all others believe it's 2016? then how can Islam be more legit? It's just a copycat lie And why to christian people offer 20-30% of their salary to the church? ****ing culprits. All of them. People are so ****ing dumb that they don't see it... why the hell is there a "subscription" to be christian? they force u to donate money to the ****ing church...

WTF. IS THERE EVEN PERKS FOR THE MEMBERS? OTHER THAN ALL THE LIES THEY'RE TOLD?
I FEEL SO DAMN SORRY FOR YOU GUYS THAT ARE BELIEVEING IN THOSE LIES. [/COLOR][/SIZE]

I agree

 

[Avani]

Hah... heh.. I should go edit that 20 quote - 1 sentence then.

Seeing those large red fonts was extra annoying. lol But yea if it's a long post and someone is only going to reply with a small sentence it's better to use spoiler tag.

 

[Phact]

So some people here said that the Creator had his own creator. I mean, then who exactly created the creator of our creator? It all gets to the point where it can't be answered. Because how can something come out of nothing? That's where everybody seems to get stuck: "Something out of nothing."

But I give props to those who delude themselves into thinking they are getting any closer to discovering God. :|

God is not like his creation. We are affected by time and God created it(meaning he doesn't have a beginning nor an end). We were created and God doesn't need a creator because He is not the same as us.

 

[nefraiko]

Indeed.

Delve deeper into the so-called "First Cause" for me. Try and finish your theory so that I can leave convinced of God's existence.

if you want to be convinced go search for yourself, he ain't your maid

 

[Deadlift]

no, don't, just give up.

Well I will answer him for sure, as he was quoting me

 

[Marin]

no, don't, just give up.

Give up on what?

 

[Sex]

God is not like his creation. We are affected by time and God created it(meaning he doesn't have a beginning nor an end). We were created and God doesn't need a creator because He is not the same as us.

That really doesn't answer anything so it still doesn't refute my argument that it can't be answered. There's no beginning and no end but out of nowhere *poof*, an expanding universe that goes beyond 14 billion light years.

How do we get something out of nothing?

if you want to be convinced go search for yourself, he ain't your maid

I tried and failed but it seems NB has people with God-tier comprehension as to what is God and how he came about, which is why I ask.

 

[Deadlift]

Indeed.

Delve deeper into the so-called "First Cause" for me. Try and finish your theory so that I can leave convinced of God's existence.

Rarely one gets convinced of the existence of God by arguments like this, and I'm not even nearly able to convince a skeptic of this. But if you have some more specific question I can try to go for the answer

 

[nefraiko]

Give up on what?

on arguing with him.

 

[Phact]

That really doesn't answer anything so it still doesn't refute my argument that it can't be answered. There's no beginning and no end but out of nowhere *poof*, an expanding universe that goes beyond 14 billion light years.

How do we get something out of nothing?

:wut::wut:
This is the argument theists use against atheists. I don't get what you are asking