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smfh, even wendy now? I mean I get it it's all cultural differences but god damn.
What do u mean? In terms of perverted stuff? It is an ova after all so of course stuff like that happens.

Well I liked the ova's from before they are funny imo so if this also has a bit of comedy and fanservice I'm sure it will be fun to watch.
 

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What do u mean? In terms of perverted stuff? It is an ova after all so of course stuff like that happens.

Well I liked the ova's from before they are funny imo so if this also has a bit of comedy and fanservice I'm sure it will be fun to watch.
Only FT ovas though. Also I personally don't see what's funny in stripping a child but hey, to each their own.
 

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Only FT ovas though. Also I personally don't see what's funny in stripping a child but hey, to each their own.
You clearly havent seen much OVAs then. Also Wendy might be younger when compared to other cast who are in their 20s but she is actually almost 14. Most of the anime have 14 years girls and there is fanservice related to them. I dont understand why only people target ft on fanservice, when other mangas and anime have tons of it. Either they just want reason to hate it or are novice when it comes to manga or anime.
 

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You clearly havent seen much OVAs then. Also Wendy might be younger when compared to other cast who are in their 20s but she is actually almost 14. Most of the anime have 14 years girls and there is fanservice related to them. I dont understand why only people target ft on fanservice, when other mangas and anime have tons of it. Either they just want reason to hate it or are novice when it comes to manga or anime.
What? Duarara's ovas barely do any of that, one punch man doesn't do that either. Gintama doesn't do it, Haikyuu doesn't do it, rurouni kenshin doesn't do that, hellsing ovasbarely has any. Slam dunk ovas don't have it, nor do Ao no exorcist, hell even naruto's ova barely hold any. Also correction, most SHOUNEN have 14 years old girls in them, but even by shounen standards, stripping a minor is not funny.


Just beacuse most anime ovas YOU watch has shit ton of BS child fanservice doesn't mean other people's list should have the same. I tend to choose what I watch carefully and I'm thankful for that

Again, just beacuse something bad is generally done doesn't make it ok, I have already stated hat it's due cultural differences. Now if you find stripping a kid funny then cool, I couldn't care less, I've seen worse. But don't try and justify why I personally should find it funny or ok
 
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What? Duarara's ovas barely do any of that, one punch man doesn't do that either. Gintama doesn't do it, Haikyuu doesn't do it, rurouni kenshin doesn't do that, hellsing ovasbarely has any. Slam dunk ovas don't have it, nor do Ao no exorcist, hell even naruto's ova barely hold any. Also correction, most SHOUNEN have 14 years old girls in them, but even by shounen standards, stripping a minor is not funny.


Just beacuse most anime ovas YOU watch has shit ton of BS child fanservice doesn't mean other people's list should have the same. I tend to choose what I watch carefully and I'm thankful for that

Again, just beacuse something bad is generally done doesn't make it ok, I have already stated hat it's due cultural differences. Now if you find stripping a kid funny then cool, I couldn't care less, I've seen worse. But don't try and justify why I personally should find it funny or ok
None of them are ecchi to begin with. Ft is tagged ecchi, Also no, shounen animes are not the only ones that have 14 year girls, there are many seinen mangas as well shoujo mangas out there that have 14 year old fanservice.

So why are you in this section complaining if you watch carefully? This is not the 1st time there is a wendy fanservice, why dont you drop it? It will be good riddance to both of us, you wont spread the hate nor will you need to get bothered with fanservice anymore.

Bad is subjective in this case. Just bcoz you think its bad doesnt necessarily makes it bad.
400+ chapters and people are still complaining about FS.
 

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I dont understand why only people target ft on fanservice, when other mangas and anime have tons of it. Either they just want reason to hate it or are novice when it comes to manga or anime.
Well, how many shonen titles have as much fanservice as FT does? Or better yet, use it to the same extent as FT does? I.E. during a war arc
 

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Well, how many shonen titles have as much fanservice as FT does? Or better yet, use it to the same extent as FT does? I.E. during a war arc
There are many, go to a manga site and search for shounen+ecchi and you will get a lot of it. I think you dont even know what shounen tags refer to. Shounen means boy which targets at 15+ boys in general and it doesnt always need to be an action adventure type manga to be considered shounen. Bakuman is also a shounen manga.
You probably think mangas like yu yu hakusho, naruto, op bleach etc are the only ones considered shounen.
 

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Thanks for the info!. I wonder how the studio is going to animate the 22 page chapter canon material into 30(?) minutes OVA. I hope there won't be any unnecessary added stuff into the OVA for the sake of time. But it likely will be. Since it is OVA then there is nothing to expect less given what they did with earlier OVA's. Whatever....this is a much awaited OVA in the FT fandom. Will see what studio do with it.
 

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There are many, go to a manga site and search for shounen+ecchi and you will get a lot of it. I think you dont even know what shounen tags refer to. Shounen means boy which targets at 15+ boys in general and it doesnt always need to be an action adventure type manga to be considered shounen. Bakuman is also a shounen manga.
You probably think mangas like yu yu hakusho, naruto, op bleach etc are the only ones considered shounen.
Nope, you don't have to tell me that. Tags are fan made, no? I know some tags placed on manga series are debatable so I won't place a high bearing on them to figure out the shonen/ecchi series. Anything that came from a shonen magazine (JUMP or not), yes that does include Bakuman is a shonen for me. Shonen series aren't always targeted for 15+ boys either, Seikimatsu Leader den Takeshi! was a manga series for children and it ran in WSJ. No, actually I wasn't first thinking about those action series, in fact one of the first shonen manga titles that came to mind was SnS (given it's overboard fan service). Lol stating Bakuman doesn't help your case.
 

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Nope, you don't have to tell me that. Tags are fan made, no? I know some tags placed on manga series are debatable so I won't place a high bearing on them to figure out the shonen/ecchi series. Anything that came from a shonen magazine (JUMP or not), yes that does include Bakuman is a shonen for me. Shonen series aren't always targeted for 15+ boys either, Seikimatsu Leader den Takeshi! was a manga series for children and it ran in WSJ. No, actually I wasn't first thinking about those action series, in fact one of the first shonen manga titles that came to mind was SnS (given it's overboard fan service). Lol stating Bakuman doesn't help your case.
So I did some some research and I found that the magazine Ft is published in is actually targeted on older audience.


And I know Bakuman doesnt help but I was trying to show the variety of the tag. I will give another example history's strongest disciple kenichi, its demographic is shounen and its has clear nipple shots. Ft doesnt have it bcoz they forbid it in WSM
 

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So I did some some research and I found that the magazine Ft is published in is actually targeted on older audience.


And I know Bakuman doesnt help but I was trying to show the variety of the tag. I will give another example history's strongest disciple kenichi, its demographic is shounen and its has clear nipple shots. Ft doesnt have it bcoz they forbid it in WSM
Not sure if you should trust wikipedia as a source (not saying that you're wrong). Yes, it does have a lot fanservice but look at how many shonen titles that don't have it to the extent of FT. Take a look at the most prestigious magazine for shonen, WSJ, only SnS & one of the newest series; Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san have a lot of fanservice or at least goes overboard with it atm. However, a title like SnS, doesn't do fanservice as much as FT since the fanservice in SnS is mainly in the food reactions. I can't comment on Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san so much since I never read it as it's very new.

Saying that there's tons of shonens that have a comparable level of fanservice to FT is bogus. This is suppose to be a war and we get panels like these with a shot of Erza's panties.:
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Not sure if you should trust wikipedia as a source (not saying that you're wrong). Yes, it does have a lot fanservice but look at how many shonen titles that don't have it to the extent of FT. Take a look at the most prestigious magazine for shonen, WSJ, only SnS & one of the newest series; Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san have a lot of fanservice or at least goes overboard with it atm. However, a title like SnS, doesn't do fanservice as much as FT since the fanservice in SnS is mainly in the food reactions. I can't comment on Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san so much since I never read it as it's very new.

Saying that there's tons of shonens that have a comparable level of fanservice to FT is bogus. This is suppose to be a war and we get panels like these with a shot of Erza's panties.:
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There are many that have fanservice and many that dont. I gave an example HSDK and AIKI is one of them too, there are tons of shounen with ft level fs or even more as to completely baring it all. I said before go and search in a manga site.
I dont really understand why are you bringing WSJ here since Ft is from WSM and different magazines have different takes on certain demographic. For example HSDK has a shounen demographic but has nipples shown. Thats bcoz they are from different magazines, Jump prefers moderate Fs and moderate violence, kodansha can accomodate more violent mangas and shokugaku opts for more fs.

War doesnt necessarily means no Fs. Also we see bare chest men in war all the time but no complains about that but Erza's cloths are ripped everybody has to loose there minds.
 

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There are many that have fanservice and many that dont. I gave an example HSDK and AIKI is one of them too, there are tons of shounen with ft level fs or even more as to completely baring it all. I said before go and search in a manga site.
I dont really understand why are you bringing WSJ here since Ft is from WSM and different magazines have different takes on certain demographic. For example HSDK has a shounen demographic but has nipples shown. Thats bcoz they are from different magazines, Jump prefers moderate Fs and moderate violence, kodansha can accomodate more violent mangas and shokugaku opts for more fs.

War doesnt necessarily means no Fs. Also we see bare chest men in war all the time but no complains about that but Erza's cloths are ripped everybody has to loose there minds.
There are more that don't have the same level of fan service of FT. The vast majority don't have the same level of fanservice as FT. You're questioning about me bringing up WSJ but telling me to search up for "shonen+ecchi" on a manga website? :| Why did I bring up WSJ? Look what I said before, I'm talking about shonens, regardless of which magazines. I also addressed that whole tags subject that manga sites use. Even in the same magazine that FT is published in there's a majority that don't have the same level of fanservice as FT atm.

To be blunt, whatever shonen that you can show that has the "same" level of fanservice as FT (which can be debated whether it's the case or not); I can show 5-10 shonens that don't have the same level of fanservice. The difference is that overwhelming!

A panty shot in a middle of a war is fine to you? FT does have a lot of fan service, whether you want to accept it or not. I don't get why some FT fans defend this topic so much. The negative connotation attached to the word? Look, I'm not saying FT is bad because of it's fanservice, if that's what you're wondering.
 

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There are more that don't have the same level of fan service of FT. The vast majority don't have the same level of fanservice as FT. You're questioning about me bringing up WSJ but telling me to search up for "shonen+ecchi" on a manga website? :| Why did I bring up WSJ? Look what I said before, I'm talking about shonens, regardless of which magazines. I also addressed that whole tags subject that manga sites use. Even in the same magazine that FT is published in there's a majority that don't have the same level of fanservice as FT atm.

To be blunt, whatever shonen that you can show that has the "same" level of fanservice as FT (which can be debated whether it's the case or not); I can show 5-10 shonens that don't have the same level of fanservice. The difference is that overwhelming!

A panty shot in a middle of a war is fine to you? FT does have a lot of fan service, whether you want to accept it or not. I don't get why some FT fans defend this topic so much. The negative connotation attached to the word? Look, I'm not saying FT is bad because of it's fanservice, if that's what you're wondering.
Did I ever denied FT doesnt have fanservice?The magazine that Ft is published has many ecchi mangas.
NNT
Fuuka
FT
Domestic no Kanojo
Kamisama no Iutoori Ni
Seitokai yakuindome
UQ Holder
Yamada kun and the 7 witches
8 ecchi mangas out of 14 mangas that I have information on.
There are currently 25 mangas being serialized in FT's magazine out of which 11 mangas have not been translated yet and info on them and their genre is not known.Out of the remaining 14 we have 8 ecchi mangas that have FS and has shounen tag.So you tell me if majority have not FS or not.
As for the panty shot, why are you so concerned about one panel?Did it affect the plot in any way?Did it ruin Erza's defeat?I dont understand.Similarly we had Laxus shirtless shots after his battle and nobody has no issues with it.
It has been 300+ chapters since we had FS and we still have people complaining about it.You know I will give you an example of what bad FS is and its from FT itself.When Lucy got naked during the dragon battle.That was a bad Fs moment.Even Mashimas aid it that it was unnecessary.I dont care if we see Erza fighting in her panties with her opponent if the battle on going is well choreographed and nice.
 

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Did I ever denied FT doesnt have fanservice?The magazine that Ft is published has many ecchi mangas.
NNT
Fuuka
FT
Domestic no Kanojo
Kamisama no Iutoori Ni
Seitokai yakuindome
UQ Holder
Yamada kun and the 7 witches
8 ecchi mangas out of 14 mangas that I have information on.
There are currently 25 mangas being serialized in FT's magazine out of which 11 mangas have not been translated yet and info on them and their genre is not known.Out of the remaining 14 we have 8 ecchi mangas that have FS and has shounen tag.So you tell me if majority have not FS or not.
As for the panty shot, why are you so concerned about one panel?Did it affect the plot in any way?Did it ruin Erza's defeat?I dont understand.Similarly we had Laxus shirtless shots after his battle and nobody has no issues with it.
It has been 300+ chapters since we had FS and we still have people complaining about it.You know I will give you an example of what bad FS is and its from FT itself.When Lucy got naked during the dragon battle.That was a bad Fs moment.Even Mashimas aid it that it was unnecessary.I dont care if we see Erza fighting in her panties with her opponent if the battle on going is well choreographed and nice.
Look what I said, I'm talking about to the same level of FT. Again, since it seems that you purposefully ignored this statement; the vast majority of shonens don't have fanservice (regardless of magazine). That was my conclusion from the start and you just beat around the bush since it's obvious that you can't argue it. You seem to be misunderstanding, I never said those series had no fanservice. That's not true but I was saying is that those series don't it to the same level of FT or higher (the majority).

I'm not so concerned over that one panel. You want more examples then? My second point is that FT has fanservice at the wrong times and there's not that many shonens that do this. Thus, FT is not like the majority of shonens when it comes to fanservice. It's at a high amount compared to other shonens and it seems like you accept this given that you had to make the distinction of magazine standards. Also, just because it didn't affect the plot or ruin Erza's defeat doesn't mean it's not a problem. It's unnecessary and it's hard to take it seriously for some people. The whole Laxus vs Erza issue can be turned into a more gender debate.
 

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Look what I said, I'm talking about to the same level of FT. Again, since it seems that you purposefully ignored this statement; the vast majority of shonens don't have fanservice (regardless of magazine). That was my conclusion from the start and you just beat around the bush since it's obvious that you can't argue it. You seem to be misunderstanding, I never said those series had no fanservice. That's not true but I was saying is that those series don't it to the same level of FT or higher (the majority).

I'm not so concerned over that one panel. You want more examples then? My second point is that FT has fanservice at the wrong times and there's not that many shonens that do this. Thus, FT is not like the majority of shonens when it comes to fanservice. It's at a high amount compared to other shonens and it seems like you accept this given that you had to make the distinction of magazine standards. Also, just because it didn't affect the plot or ruin Erza's defeat doesn't mean it's not a problem. It's unnecessary and it's hard to take it seriously for some people. The whole Laxus vs Erza issue can be turned into a more gender debate.
@bold I already told you go search for shounen + ecchi tags in a manga site. Yet you think I ignored your point. You will find many mangas that are shounen with ft level of fs and more. You are only holding on to the popular ones.
And also magazines matter. Like I said the magazine Ft is published at is generally targeted at college students and high school students hence the fanservice. Nnt had elizaabeth panty shots during fights. Also the ones that I mentioned have equal amount of fs as Ft too.

I gave one example where the Fs was misplaced, other than that I dont think there is any more cases. Also fs has no gender, we have seen tons of times shirtless dudes. fight yet thats badass, but erza's panties has dragged this world to its end. And if you cabt get over something as trivial as that then drop it. Because there will be many more such moments in future and you know it and still complain.
 

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@bold I already told you go search for shounen + ecchi tags in a manga site. Yet you think I ignored your point. You will find many mangas that are shounen with ft level of fs and more. You are only holding on to the popular ones.
And also magazines matter. Like I said the magazine Ft is published at is generally targeted at college students and high school students hence the fanservice. Nnt had elizaabeth panty shots during fights. Also the ones that I mentioned have equal amount of fs as Ft too.

I gave one example where the Fs was misplaced, other than that I dont think there is any more cases. Also fs has no gender, we have seen tons of times shirtless dudes. fight yet thats badass, but erza's panties has dragged this world to its end. And if you cabt get over something as trivial as that then drop it. Because there will be many more such moments in future and you know it and still complain.
I told you that tags aren't always correct. Even if were to be ignorant and assume that they always are; it's debatable whether those series have the same level of fs of FT and knowing you, you'd be more reluctant to say that they do considering your bias towards FT. Leave, magazines standards aside; I've already told you since the beginning, "how many shonen titles have as much fanservice as FT does?". I never asked you to justify FT's FS by pointing at specific magazine where it has, "the same level of FS as FT".

There's still a lot more! When I said gender, I was referring to the idea of why people complain about Erza being almost shirtless and don't complain that Laxus has no shirt on. It's obvious which of the two is done with the intentions of a sexual way.

Why would I drop FT? I enjoy the series and the only reason why I even bothered arguing with you since you have this idea that many shonens have the same level of FS as FT. You do know how many shonen titles there are? It may seem like there's a lot of shonens that have the same level of FS as FT but when you look at the big picture, it's in the minority. I know there will be more fanservice to come. My only problem with FT's fanservice is when it doesn't fit well with what's going on. It's not like it gets in the way of the plot as you stated.
 

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I told you that tags aren't always correct. Even if were to be ignorant and assume that they always are; it's debatable whether those series have the same level of fs of FT and knowing you, you'd be more reluctant to say that they do considering your bias towards FT. Leave, magazines standards aside; I've already told you since the beginning, "how many shonen titles have as much fanservice as FT does?". I never asked you to justify FT's FS by pointing at specific magazine where it has, "the same level of FS as FT".

There's still a lot more! When I said gender, I was referring to the idea of why people complain about Erza being almost shirtless and don't complain that Laxus has no shirt on. It's obvious which of the two is done with the intentions of a sexual way.

Why would I drop FT? I enjoy the series and the only reason why I even bothered arguing with you since you have this idea that many shonens have the same level of FS as FT. You do know how many shonen titles there are? It may seem like there's a lot of shonens that have the same level of FS as FT but when you look at the big picture, it's in the minority. I know there will be more fanservice to come. My only problem with FT's fanservice is when it doesn't fit well with what's going on. It's not like it gets in the way of the plot as you stated.
Lol so are you telling me that a manga tagged echhi and shounen wont have the respective themes?Echhi is a very easy tag and like I said why are you so confident that FT level FS is in minority?Have you counted how many shounens are there?And you have checked each manga and judged that FT level FS is in minority?Bcoz from what i can say you only have knowledge of mainstream shounens and thats why you are telling that FT is in minority.I have already shown you that the magazine FT is published in has 8 out 14 ecchi mangas and I have read 6 out of them.I can tell that they have the same level of fs as ft does.

For males being shirtless is considered FS.Both Laxus and Erza were done in a sexual way but you noticed Erza one bcoz you are a male.Also the fact that shirtless is apparently considered badass.

Bleach has youruichi ass shots on chapter she was fighting.Its same as erza's panty shot but hating FT bcoz of fs is apparently a trend.And like I said it doesnt matter if its FS is in minority or majority, 300+ chapters have passed with this kind of FS and people still ***** about it.
 
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