[Discussion] Religion

[Punk Hazard]

interesting until you ask your self where the story of santa was taken

Stephven is correct. God and Santa Claus are both allegories that are meant to instruct and condition people to behavior that benefits the figure of authority perpetuating the tale.

 

[Ōkami]

I'm Agnostic/Humanist.

 

[Marin]

Stephven is correct. God and Santa Claus are both allegories that are meant to instruct and condition people to behavior that benefits the figure of authority perpetuating the tale.

I would be fine with someone saying it as his view but don't talk like it's a fact. We don't know when/how/why the concept of deities came to be (if it was created in the first place) so to state it was made to instill authority is but a speculation.

The big fat ass who stalks your children in the north Pole

Sorry don't believe in that either

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What's next? Marry had a little lamb lol

He also happens to be a communist.

 

[I m an Ass]

No one is born into Christianity. It is an active, conscious (with knowledge) decision to turn from sin and trust in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord,a baby cannot do that. Salvation is not handed down from parent to child - each person must seek it on their own. Otherwise one wouldn't have free will and god would be contradicting himself about free will,some maybe forced into it but at the end of the day god know someone's true heart. Pretty much what led me to christianity is god himself hard to believe but it's true
if you want to give it a try go head you have nothing to lose


◄ Jeremiah 29:13 ►
You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. 14'I will be found by you

god bless

 

[Punk Hazard]

I would be fine with someone saying it as his view but don't talk like it's a fact. We don't know when/how/why the concept of deities came to be (if it was created in the first place) so to state it was made to instill authority is but a speculation.



He also happens to be a communist.

I think it's a fact, so I say it as a fact.

 

[Marin]

I think it's a fact, so I say it as a fact.

You're taking somehing that's uncertain and are presenting it to others as certain. Basically what they call shoving your opinion down someone's throat. Not a nice thing to do.

 

[HashiraMadara]

I think it's a fact, so I say it as a fact.

that's plain arrogance :| there's nothing as such as a fact in view discussion unless you're naive

 

[Punk Hazard]

You're taking somehing that's uncertain and are presenting it to others as certain. Basically what they call shoving your opinion down someone's throat. Not a nice thing to do.

I am fully aware that it isn't a guaranteed fact. However, it is what I believe to be truth. I don't have to say every time I say it that it's my opinion that it's truth, you should know that.

 

[Power Bottom]

Lmfaooooooo.

Do something bad goes to hell. I think it dose instill authority and consequences for actions. The main purpose is to guide your life and be closer to god. So you must follow set guidelines.

 

[Marin]

I am fully aware that it isn't a guaranteed fact. However, it is what I believe to be truth. I don't have to say every time I say it that it's my opinion that it's truth, you should know that.

Sharing your view is ok, heck that's what the thread is for and ofc you shouldn't put a disclaimer on every post but you didn't simply come and say your opinion, instead you went and told a guy how the other person is indeed right, passing it off as a fact.

That's why I am fine with people simply laying out their views but not fine with people convincing others they're right when they really have no warrant.

 

[Punk Hazard]

that's plain arrogance :| there's nothing as such as a fact in view discussion unless you're naive

I mean, I guess. I'm not gonna say "In my opinion, God is this and that" every time I post. I'm just gonna voice my belief. I shouldn't have to tell anyone that it's my belief. I believe it to be true, so I regard it as true. You are fully capable of responding to it with what you regard as truth.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Used to be an atheist, now I'm a Muslim.

You were born into an Atheist family?

 

[Wabbit]

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None of your statements make a counter argument. Basically you said, hurr durr I am smart you are dumb.
You say you have a BSc in physics, I told you you could be illiterate and still understand the world and realize there is no validity in goat ****ers fantasies, it does not matter you have problems with people 'believing' multi verse theory.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Stephven is correct. God and Santa Claus are both allegories that are meant to instruct and condition people to behavior that benefits the figure of authority perpetuating the tale.

What authority does religions benefit?

 

[nefraiko]

it may sound stupid to you but I believe in islam based on faith on proofs. I have studied islam and found proofs of it, they appear to be proofs from my pov. I'm a very sceptical person and I tend to overthink matters, their was a time when I thinked religion was a lie and that people who believed in it were stupid (I'm born and raised in an islamic country). but after a major event in my life, I began to think more seriously about it then I decided that I need to have a serious answer once and for all. I remember that I thinked :

"if their is no god and if death is becoming nothing then life doesn't matter, better end it now, or do whatever the **** I want to do, everything. but if their is god and I die then I go to hell. this is a risk I'm not willing to take, I need a serious answer"

also I used to think that god is a dictator that burns everyone who disagrees with him for eternity, but then I said, if I'm wrong then I ****ed up and missed my chance to know this awesome being, and if I'm right then I'd rather be in the right side of the equation, even if he's a dictator, gotta be in the government.

its all about the risks of the positions. an atheist takes far more risks than a religious person. if the atheist is right then the religious guy doesn't loose anything, but if the religious is right the atheist looses eternity. personnaly I can't take that risk.

these were the thoughts that led me to study more about religion, I first read the taoism, having already an islamic background, I found tao REALLY similar to ALLAH. I also read extensively the quran and the life of the prophet mohammad, looking for countradictions, couldn't find any, from my pov, I also found proof in the way mohammad lived, and many scientific proofs in the quran (my pov, don't laugh at me please).

why did I choose islam over other religions ? because it is litterally the word of god through the quran (my pov), this word is recent (only 1400 years) compared to other major religions, I have proof it didn't change over time. for exemple, the whole christianism is the equivalent of the sunna in islam as it is only the transcription of the life of a prophet written by normal humans. I choose it because I couldn't find countradictions in it, not for lack of trying, that's not the case for other religions.

their is a theory by mostapha mahmoud that says that all massive religions were by the only god, as their are huge similarities between them, and because god in islam says that he will send prophets to every people/nation/culture that show them islam (litterally surrendering to god, worshiping him, living in peace) but that they end changing it to something else : for example worshiping angels as other gods. for example the vikings have odin, the father, the supreme god but they have other gods of lighning, water, death...

I have faith that the proofs that I've encountered in islam are really proofs and that I'm not mistaken, in other words, I believe that I'm right about it. but hey, what do I have to loose ? a few years living a peacefull life ? sounds like a good deal.
if their is no god then it doesn't matter what I do here. and it is very depressing.
sorry for the spelling mistakes.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I am fully aware that it isn't a guaranteed fact. However, it is what I believe to be truth. I don't have to say every time I say it that it's my opinion that it's truth, you should know that.

That's fine to say, I think. I mean I believe my religion to be the truth, so to me it's fact, and i treated as such, but not to others.

 

[Berkenstiel]

Satanism, Kurdish

 

[Deadlift]

Now 8x1000 has become 10% XD

 

[Made in Heaven]

Tithing, meaning giving 10% of your income to the church, is one of them. This is something Christians do and it's utter bullshit. They say you have to give it up to get God's blessing when in reality you don't since it's not even written anywhere in the testaments. And when you don't they treat you like second class, can't sit in the front, and some don't even let you into the church. Shit. Let me open up a Christian church and watch me buy a Lamborghini by the end of the month. Don't even gotta pay taxes! Perfect business!

One more reason to stay clear of religion, their brainwashed sheep, and the made up crap that comes along with it.

I'm not Christian. I'm Muslim. Although I think no one can really deny Christianity isn't in it's original form when even Christians themselves admit the Bible has been altered ans changed.

 

[Deadlift]

I'm not Christian. I'm Muslim. Although I think no one can really deny Christianity isn't in it's original form when even Christians themselves admit the Bible has been altered ans changed.

It has been translated and interpreted, not altered