Uchiha the most powerful clan

[Solo]

If Kaguya Clan so powerful why do only a handful of people know them?

Uchiha stomps.

 

[Tyris]

hardcore faxx. Uchiha neg all in NV & m'Lord solos NV Himself.

 

[baul 24]

well why can't we put this any fodder who eats chakra fruit > NV and otsutsuki are shit without chakra fruit and just give chakra fruit to madara without giving any other powerups like rinnegan or jubei he will make a mass destruction than any otsutsuki was able to do combined. uchiha's are clearly superior to any clan cause of the sharingan and it is the power of the fruit no wonder why their MS abilities are hax completely out of the world.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Lol 1 rinne madara has limbo stupid hashirama would be shitted on before he can blink

you mean alive madara vs edo hashirama who just wasted all his chakra in a fight before that one?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Nope.

←This white eyed lady's clan is the strongest

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Lol the same sasuke who made kinshiki look like a fool as stated by Momishiki, the same sasuke who can traverse dimensions like he's part of Marvel's hierarchy of cosmic beings the same sasuke who saved hokage naruto from momoshiki who was sucking his chakra out his ass??? Hokage naruto has zero feats all he can do is kyuubi avatar vs dimension hoping I'll take dimension hoping anyday... I should start a petition to get Sasuke in Marvel where he belongs... Lol name 1 thing hokage naruto can do that the Last and rsm naruto couldn't???

use chakra arms in base

 

[Warlocks]

rinnagan isnt Uchiha's power

rinnagan = ashura+indra

 

[MitchiX]

Think about it... Also they have the highest potential too.

Most uchiha back then in Madara and hashirama era had sharingan, the senju were not that special maybe tough with a lot of chakra but only 2 members were special out of their group...

Madara alone › senju without hashirama, the senju were only better because he was better than madara


Also when we add in every member every of both clans the uchiha like i said have greater potential which is why they got shinobi like obito who's virtually unstoppable with the most hax ability and itachi who is a genuis above all others and arguably the most talented shinobi ever and shi sui a shinobi who could technically beat anyone wuth KA and sasuke another genuis...

The Hyuuga only claim they are konoha's best after the senju and uchiha are long gone... Ms itachi alone cN wreck their whole clan, obito sasuke madara fugaku can wreck their whole clan... The entire uchiha shit on them

Itachi once asked this question " why is it that the uchiha are known by all and feared by all "

Even tobirama wanted to learned about them, he studied them inside and out

Orochimaru wanted to be like them

Danzo wanted their power

Kabuto wanted their power

Hell kakashi is top 3 one of the most renown shinobi because of their power, their power made his career....


The uchiha are the next best thing outside of the otsutsuki

I agrre with you.

 

[UnknownJin]

Bad thread. was epecting something better//

 

[Kushina san]

It's the truth. Senju Clan were without equal, that's how OP they were. But obviously the Otsutsuki would stomp them if we look at Kinshiki and Momoshiki.

Still OP's Uchiha wank is hilarious because he can't admit the fact that Uchiha's were inferior to the Senju Clan. Look at him trying to debate on Juubito, and JJ Madara.

I guess the only way Uchiha can surpass Senju/Hashirama is with Rikudou power. Oh wait, that's actually true :lol

And I would really like to see Senju/Hashirama with Rikudou power ups.

The Uchihatrolls in this thread lol

 

[The Demon Hawk]

The Oosutsuki are the most powerful clan. They possess so much chakra and this was noted when Sasuke said that she had tons more chakra than Madara. The Uchiha Clan is 3rd overall after the Senju Clan.

The Senju Clan would always beat the Uchih as the Uchihas gave up which is why Madara was bitter because he was beaten. Hashirama himself soloes most of the Uchihas.

No. The Uchihas were inferior to the Senjus only in the Hashirama-Madara period. And even in that period, only Hashirama was stronger than his corresponding Uchiha in terms of power. Otherwise, Uchihas are potentially superior to the Senjus.

Otsutsuki > Uchiha > Senju

 

[unknownvillain1254]

No. The Uchihas were inferior to the Senjus only in the Hashirama- period. And even in that period, only Hashirama was stronger than his corresponding Uchiha in terms of power. Otherwise, Uchihas are potentially superior to the Senjus.

Otsutsuki > Uchiha > Senju

Where in the manga does it say that in the manga . Fact senji beat uchiha

Uchiha are the third most powerful Clan there are few who can give them a run for their money

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Where in the manga does it say that in the manga . Fact senji beat uchiha

Uchiha are the third most powerful Clan there are few who can give them a run for their money

Potentially, Uchihas beat Senju. The only Senju who was ever stronger than his Uchiha counterpart was Hashirama. Otherwise, every Uchiha was naturally stronger.

Senjus only beat the Uchihas in the Hashirama-Madara era.

Uchihas are the second most powerful clan after the original Otsutsuki.

 

[lndra]

No. The Uchihas were inferior to the Senjus only in the Hashirama-Madara period.

It was stated that the Senju were stronger during the Feudal era. I remember having this conversation with someone before, but the Feudal era of Shinobi lasted years before Hashirama became Clan Leader. As obvious anyway considering Kishimoto drew the continuous wars during their childhood (flash back scene).

And even in that period, only Hashirama was stronger than his corresponding Uchiha in terms of power. Otherwise, Uchihas are potentially superior to the Senjus.

It was said in the Manga that the Senju were overpowering the Uchiha, not "Hashirama" was overpowering the Uchiha himself. Considering that we've actually seen Senju defeat Uchiha bar Hashirama (Tobirama for instance), I highly doubt that.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

No. The Uchihas were inferior to the Senjus only in the Hashirama-Madara period. And even in that period, only Hashirama was stronger than his corresponding Uchiha in terms of power. Otherwise, Uchihas are potentially superior to the Senjus.

Otsutsuki > Uchiha > Senju

No they were inferior even before that period, ever since the Fedual era the Uchihas were inferior to the Senjus. Hashirama dominated his era and it is a manga fact that the Uchihas admitted they were the weaker clan out of the two.

An average Senju is actually stronger than an Average Uchiha. What you doing is group the most powerful Uchihas and looping them into the same era. Tobirama was pretty skilled, he took down Izuna who was stated to have equal skills to that of his brother. Hashirama was an exception among the Senju but even the Databook and the Manga agree that the Senjus were superior and not equal.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Potentially, Uchihas beat Senju. The only Senju who was ever stronger than his Uchiha counterpart was Hashirama. Otherwise, every Uchiha was naturally stronger.

Senjus only beat the Uchihas in the Hashirama-Madara era.

Uchihas are the second most powerful clan after the original Otsutsuki.

Come on dude everything you said was opinion not fact

1 because you are bias to everything not uchiha

2. Since you are bias you don't know the strength of clan or potential because of that

3. And based off of potential the Hyuga clan the stronger by far

The Hyuga have
1.The highest level of insight

2.Can see chakra at the highest levels

3.The ability to control chakra points and Gates in their body at Birth

4.The ability to destroy chakra substance which is basically everything ninjutus

5. 360 vision, high speed tracking ,X ray telescopic vision and ability to sense anything within 50 meter that dose extent

6.One hit OK taijutus

7.Cc that passes the Pinnacle chakra control at birth

8.Cc that makes them natural Genjutsu type

9.And the ability to see through it all Genjutsu not just vision one

 

[The Demon Hawk]

It was stated that the Senju were stronger during the Feudal era. I remember having this conversation with someone before, but the Feudal era of Shinobi lasted years before Hashirama became Clan Leader. As obvious anyway considering Kishimoto drew the continuous wars during their childhood (flash back scene).


It was said in the Manga that the Senju were overpowering the Uchiha, not "Hashirama" was overpowering the Uchiha himself. Considering that we've actually seen Senju defeat Uchiha bar Hashirama (Tobirama for instance), I highly doubt that.

Regardless, the Senjus were stronger only in the Feudal era as mentioned. Doesn't change the fact that Uchihas are potentially superior. And Tobirama was potentially weaker than Izuna, FYI.

No they were inferior even before that period, ever since the Fedual era the Uchihas were inferior to the Senjus. Hashirama dominated his era and it is a manga fact that the Uchihas admitted they were the weaker clan out of the two.

Same answer as above to @Indra.

An average Senju is actually stronger than an Average Uchiha.

Generally, not potentially. Because the Uchihas have a lot of difficulties and barriers in awakening their full power while the Senjus don't have any.

What you doing is group the most powerful Uchihas and looping them into the same era.

Nope, that's not me.

Tobirama was pretty skilled, he took down Izuna who was stated to have equal skills to that of his brother.

Yeah, he was "skilled", not more powerful. In fact, he was potentially weaker than Izuna. He also defeated Izuna by deceiving him.

Hashirama was an exception among the Senju but even the Databook and the Manga agree that the Senjus were superior and not equal.

During the Feudal era? Yes.

Come on dude everything you said was opinion not fact

If it was an opinion, I'd pose it like an opinion, which I didn't do.

1 because you are bias to everything not uchiha

Wrong.

2. Since you are bias you don't know the strength of clan or potential because of that

I'm well aware of the clan's potential and that's what I am emphasizing on unlike you.

3. And based off of potential the Hyuga clan the stronger by far

The Hyuga have
1.The highest level of insight

2.Can see chakra at the highest levels

3.The ability to control chakra points and Gates in their body at Birth

4.The ability to destroy chakra substance which is basically everything ninjutus

5. 360 vision, high speed tracking ,X ray telescopic vision and ability to sense anything within 50 meter that dose extent

6.One hit OK taijutus

7.Cc that passes the Pinnacle chakra control at birth

8.Cc that makes them natural Genjutsu type

9.And the ability to see through it all Genjutsu not just vision one

Post 3T Uchiha > Hyuuga by far.

 

[lndra]

Regardless, the Senjus were stronger only in the Feudal era as mentioned. Doesn't change the fact that Uchihas are potentially superior. And Tobirama was potentially weaker than Izuna, FYI.

We really haven't seen anyone stronger than the strongest Feudal era Senju (Hashirama) unless they somehow received Rikudou power. Potential wise? I'm not really sure. The Senju's fought MS Uchiha consistently in the war too. So I don't really see what potential they have which cannot be overpowered. Still it doesn't change the fact that Tobirama defeated an MS Uchiha who was stated to be on the same league as his brother (Madara). You know before he achieved EMS thanks to Izuna being KO'd lol.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Regardless, the Senjus were stronger only in the Feudal era as mentioned. Doesn't change the fact that Uchihas are potentially superior. And Tobirama was potentially weaker than Izuna, FYI.



Same answer as above to @Indra.



Generally, not potentially. Because the Uchihas have a lot of difficulties and barriers in awakening their full power while the Senjus don't have any.



Nope, that's not me.



Yeah, he was "skilled", not more powerful. In fact, he was potentially weaker than Izuna. He also defeated Izuna by deceiving him.



During the Feudal era? Yes.



If it was an opinion, I'd pose it like an opinion, which I didn't do.



Wrong.



I'm well aware of the clan's potential and that's what I am emphasizing on unlike you.



Post 3T Uchiha > Hyuuga by far.

Byakugan >>>> shraigan get over it

 

[The Demon Hawk]

We really haven't seen anyone stronger than the strongest Feudal era Senju (Hashirama) unless they somehow received Rikudou power. Potential wise? I'm not really sure. The Senju's fought MS Uchiha consistently in the war too. So I don't really see what potential they have which cannot be overpowered. Still it doesn't change the fact that Tobirama defeated an MS Uchiha who was stated to be on the same league as his brother (Madara). You know before he achieved EMS thanks to Izuna being KO'd lol.

I never denied that. Hashirama is the strongest of them all naturally, actually and potentially. That's the clear truth, I can't turn it down. Even Madara with maximum potential (powered by hypothetical Sage Mode) would probably lose against him.

Excluding Hashirama however, nearly all Uchihas I've seen are potentially stronger than their Senju counterparts, even if they are weaker in reality. Because very rare circumstances lead to Uchihas activating their full potential which keeps them shy of their maximum power, whereas Senjus have no hindrance on their side.

Firstly, MS Uchihas were still relatively lesser in amount to comparable Senjus due to the relatively rare conditions even though they were still more common than usual during war. The Senjus during the war were very skilled in a lot of other techniques (Senju being known as "the clan of a thousand skills" particularly because of that). That kept them on par or even superior to the Uchihas despite being potentially weaker. Those skills doesn't have anything to do with their potential as a Senju.

And if you talk about Senjus being able to stand up against MS Uchihas, let me remind you that Madara was also able to stand up against Hashirama despite losing Kurama and fight for quite a long time and they both ended up roughly in the same condition. That doesn't make him equal to Hashirama as we very well know.

Again, Tobirama was weaker in potential than Izuna. He only managed to match him with FTG and other skills (a clear display of Senju's superiority in skills), and those skills have nothing to do with Tobirama's Senju potential. And even then he needed to deceive Izuna for his coward ass to win, couldn't defeat him with pure strength and abilities.

Bottom line: Senjus were dominant during the Feudal era because of their superiority in skills which has nothing to do with their clan's potential. An equally skilled Uchiha with fully maxed out potential would probably dominate a corresponding Senju.