Where was Orochimaru ranked in the Akatsuki?

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I imagine it something like this:

Pain
Itachi
Orochimaru
Kakuzu
Kisame
Deidara
Konan
Sasori
Hidan
 

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I imagine it something like this:

Pain
Itachi
Orochimaru
Kakuzu
Kisame
Deidara
Konan
Sasori
Hidan

I didin't think Orochimaru was that powerful. Not above Kisame at least. Bee couldn't even take down Kisame without going high diff and Orochimaru would lose to bee.
 

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I didin't think Orochimaru was that powerful. Not above Kisame at least. Bee couldn't even take down Kisame without going high diff and Orochimaru would lose to bee.

Between Manda/snakes, Edo Tensei, Kusanagi, Rashomon Gates, chakra absorption, his body's durability, Five Elements Seal...Orochimaru is one of the most versatile shinobi in the manga. He can deal with Kisame. Bee is an iffy matchup for him, but it's not like Bee would make Orochimaru look weak.

The databooks generally rank him higher than the other Akatsuki members in terms of stats as well, if that means anything.
 
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I didin't think Orochimaru was that powerful. Not above Kisame at least. Bee couldn't even take down Kisame without going high diff and Orochimaru would lose to bee.

Oro haves edo tensei. That's reason enough to rank him up. Also, technically he is "immortal".

I imagine it something like this:

Pain
Itachi
Orochimaru
Kakuzu
Kisame
Deidara
Konan
Sasori
Hidan

Wtf bruh. Itachi stomps Pain low diff. :Sparks:

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I imagine it something like this:

Pain
Itachi
Orochimaru
Kakuzu
Kisame
Deidara
Konan
Sasori
Hidan

I can't seem to tell the correlation between manga fact and an individual's abilities. Sasori should be technically stronger if we go by manga but feats show that he isn't capable of evading C0 or even his C4 which can destroy you at the atomic level.

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OT: Orochmaru is ranked pretty high and should be right below Itachi because feats wise he has shown to be one of the most versatile.
 

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Deidara and Kisame are stronger than Kakuzu

Not really, they all have their pros and cons. I would add Sasori to the same group, all 4 are almost interchangeable depending on who theyre facing.
 

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Deidara and Kisame are stronger than Kakuzu

I don't really think Deidara matches up to Kisame and Kakuzu, but between Kisame and Kakuzu I admit it's iffy.

I can't seem to tell the correlation between manga fact and an individual's abilities. Sasori should be technically stronger if we go by manga but feats show that he isn't capable of evading C0 or even his C4 which can destroy you at the atomic level.

I went back through it and I did underrate Sasori; he should be higher, possibly even right under Orochimaru (if we go by the Databook). However, Sasori should be fine against C4 (he has no bloodstream for C4 to infiltrate).

By feats though, Sasori never really demonstrates anything on the level of those other guys (if Sakura and Chiyo can react to his attacks, then I don't see how Deidara, Kakuzu, and Kisame can't), but alas, hype is still legitimate.

Also, Kakuzu can deal with Deidara's bombs with Raiton.
 
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Deidara and Kisame are stronger than Kakuzu

Lol nope. Kisame can't kill Kakuzu, he's immortal but it can go vice versa.

Between Manda/snakes, Edo Tensei, Kusanagi, Rashomon Gates, chakra absorption, his body's durability, Five Elements Seal...Orochimaru is one of the most versatile shinobi in the manga. He can deal with Kisame. Bee is an iffy matchup for him, but it's not like Bee would make Orochimaru look weak.

The databooks generally rank him higher than the other Akatsuki members in terms of stats as well, if that means anything.

Forgot about the Databooks. I guess he was up there then based on stats although I don't really see him beating someone like Deidara with something like C3 because he can't oral rebirth from that..he'd be dead once he's he's in that sphere area.
 

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Lol nope. Kisame can't kill Kakuzu, he's immortal but it can go vice versa.
What about Deidara? I think Deidara is Kakuzu's worst opponent because all he has to do is spam clay bombs while being aerial.
I don't see how Kakuzu can handle that.

I'm still iffy on Kisame losing to Kakuzu. This would actually be a good versus match imo.
 

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I don't really think Deidara matches up to Kisame and Kakuzu, but between Kisame and Kakuzu I admit it's iffy.

Kakuzu beats Deidara. Kisame loses to Deidara. Kakuzu vs Kisame is close but Kisame would have a slight edge.

Thats why these 4 members are interchangeable. They are all relatively on the same level, different matchups would grant different winners.


What about Deidara? I think Deidara is Kakuzu's worst opponent because all he has to do is spam clay bombs while being aerial.
I don't see how Kakuzu can handle that.

I'm still iffy on Kisame losing to Kakuzu. This would actually be a good versus match imo.

Kakuzu has lightning affinity to neutralize Deidara's bombs. He also has Domu which can tank a lot of Deidaras arsenal. On top of that he has tons of range to deal with Deidara, his masks can even hover in the air, so Deidara's flight advantage which he usually abuses, is not even much here.
 

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Orochimaru's power scale keep differing from top to worse in his timeline for many reasons well war arc orochimaru can take on even pain as he has wood style now and as he cannot be killed in ordinary ways and Itachi vs Orochimaru(war arc) will be a good fight and think they are equally powerful.
 

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Pain/Itachi

Orochimaru

The rest.
 

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Kakuzu beats Deidara. Kisame loses to Deidara. Kakuzu vs Kisame is close but Kisame would have a slight edge.

Thats why these 4 members are interchangeable. They are all relatively on the same level, different matchups would grant different winners.




Kakuzu has lightning affinity to neutralize Deidara's bombs. He also has Domu which can tank a lot of Deidaras arsenal. On top of that he has tons of range to deal with Deidara, his masks can even hover in the air, so Deidara's flight advantage which he usually abuses, is not even much here.

It's actually Kakuzu>Deidara>Kisame. I'm not sure what you mean by slight advantage, if you don't mind explaining. i'm not sure why you disliked my post about Bee beating Orochimaru. As long as you can beat another character you are stronger than them...look at any legit teir list and you will almost always see Bee and Kisame is above oro.
 

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Oro haves edo tensei. That's reason enough to rank him up. Also, technically he is "immortal".



Wtf bruh. Itachi stomps Pain low diff. :Sparks:

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Doesn't prove anything.Nagato was a sitting duck.plus itachi had full control and Nagato was kabuto
 

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I went back through it and I did underrate Sasori; he should be higher, possibly even right under Orochimaru (if we go by the Databook). However, Sasori should be fine against C4 (he has no bloodstream for C4 to infiltrate).

How would Sasori be ok against C4 when Deidara explodes into matter that attack at the cellular level? Sasori is still made of flesh despite turning himself into a puppet. He still has a heart which the particles can attack for the C4 to be successful. Clearly he was bluffing when he said this because he still bled from when Sakura punched him in the face. So I would say that he would still be in the danger zone against C4 Karura because he can't turn himself completely into a puppet with no feelings and become immortal. He has human flesh coursing through his body.

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By feats though, Sasori never really demonstrates anything on the level of those other guys (if Sakura and Chiyo can react to his attacks, then I don't see how Deidara, Kakuzu, and Kisame can't), but alas, hype is still legitimate.
Also, Kakuzu can deal with Deidara's bombs with Raiton.

Hype can't be legitimate unless proven, which is why when the Prime Hiruzen faptards are cancer because they only refer to hype and disregard all sorts of logic that imply within the situation. Yes I know Kakuzu can deal with Deidara's lightning bombs but I don't think I ever mentioned Kakuzu in my post or made a comparison with him.:sigar:
 
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