Where was Orochimaru ranked in the Akatsuki?

[Nick01]

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Doesn't prove anything.Nagato was a sitting duck.plus itachi had full control and Nagato was kabuto

This is true. A serious Nagato with control of his own body would be an even more difficult opponent to take down.

 

[ToshiZO]

It's actually Kakuzu>Deidara>Kisame. I'm not sure what you mean by slight advantage, if you don't mind explaining. i'm not sure why you disliked my post about Bee beating Orochimaru. As long as you can beat another character you are stronger than them...look at any legit teir list and you will almost always see Bee and Kisame is above oro.

I took back the dislike. I read something wrong, I thought you said Kisame takes Bee down.

Regardless Bee takes Kisame low diff at full power. He had to hold back in their battle, so your statement is incorrect anyway.

Kisame vs Kakuzu, Kisame can deal with a lot of Kakuzu's arsenal with Samehada. A lot of Kakuzu's large scale jutsu can be absorbed.

 

[Claymantan]

How would Sasori be ok against C4 when Deidara explodes into matter that attack at the cellular level? Sasori is still made of flesh despite turning himself into a puppet. He still has a heart which the particles can attack for the C4 to be successful. Clearly he was bluffing when he said this because he still bled from when Sakura punched him in the face. So I would say that he would still be in the danger zone against C4 Karura because he can't turn himself completely into a puppet with no feelings and become immortal. He has human flesh coursing through his body.

IIRC they need to get in by breathing, don't they? Does Sasori breathe? Anyway, C4 only gets Sasori if he's using himself, which he probably wouldn't jump to right away. Against Deidara he's more likely to be using the Third Raikage.

Hype can't be legitimate unless proven, which is why when the Prime Hiruzen faptards are cancer because they only refer to hype and disregard all sorts of logic that imply within the situation. Yes I know Kakuzu can deal with Deidara's lightning bombs but I don't think I ever mentioned Kakuzu in my post or made a comparison with him.

Re: Kakuzu: Might have gotten mixed up in my replies. xD

As far as hype goes, it's legitimate in situations where we have full reason to expect that a character knows what they're talking about (ex: the limits to defeating Tsukuyomi are basically hype, since it's only ever been used on Kakashi and Sasuke). There's no reason for Deidara to lie, and he knows his own abilities (and Databook puts Sasori higher than Deidara anyway), and he's not the type to put himself under anybody (e.g. how frustrated he is with Itachi looking down on his art and having better art than him through genjutsu), so I take the statement at face value.

 

[Ricardo]

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Doesn't prove anything.Nagato was a sitting duck.plus itachi had full control and Nagato was kabuto

Still proves the fact that he got rolfstomped gg ez by Itach :th:

 

[SasukeSixPack]

This is true. A serious Nagato with control of his own body would be an even more difficult opponent to take down.

I'm not sure what you're saying but even if Nagato was in control of his body he would still lack in mobility and would have been caught the same way.

I took back the dislike. I read something wrong, I thought you said Kisame takes Bee down.

Regardless Bee takes Kisame low diff at full power. He had to hold back in their battle, so your statement is incorrect anyway.

Kisame vs Kakuzu, Kisame can deal with a lot of Kakuzu's arsenal with Samehada. A lot of Kakuzu's large scale jutsu can be absorbed.

At full power? You mean with Hachibi? Idk why you think that would give him the fight low diff when Hachibi's bijuu dama couldn't kill 1 member of Taka. Honestly, Bee did more damage to Taka in his tail beast states than he did as full Hachibi. Bigger isn't always better.


Except for his Katon as Samehada doesn't like fire, but honestly if we look at it in terms of durability and stamina even though we can fairly say that Kisame has more chakra it's almost 100% a certainty that he would exhaust himself wayy before Kakuzu. Not that Kakuzu could easily kill him off in that time but I think he would survive to do so. Kisame doesn't have the firepower necessary to deal with Kakuzu.

 

[Jiraiyathesannin]

Hard to say, he's got some of the most inconsistent power scaling in all of manga.

on one hand, he couldn't even take down itachi when he had the drop on him.

on the OTHER hand, sasuke said during the war arc that he wasn't sure he'd be able to beat him.

Even at full power with 2 summoned hokage's he couldn't defeat hiruzen without losing his arms.

And then when he had no arms but was still able to summon and cast certain jutsu's with kabuto, he couldn't defeat jiraiya at 45% power and a useless blood fearing tsunade

 

[HashiraMadara]

I imagine it something like this:

Pain
Itachi
Orochimaru
Kakuzu
Kisame
Deidara
Konan
Sasori
Hidan

Put Itachi above Pain then the list is complete =D

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[bluerobot]

I imagine it something like this:

Pain
Itachi
Orochimaru
Kakuzu
Kisame
Deidara
Konan
Sasori
Hidan

that order is correct

 

[MasqueradeNX]

6 Paths of Pain/Nagato
Itachi
Orochimaru
Kisame
Kakuzu
Deidara
Sasori
Konan
Hidan​

 

[LoZelda101]

I didin't think Orochimaru was that powerful. Not above Kisame at least. Bee couldn't even take down Kisame without going high diff and Orochimaru would lose to bee.

KB got lucky again. the samehada gave him freebee chakra and Ay showed up in time to finish off kisame.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

KB got lucky again. the samehada gave him freebee chakra and Ay showed up in time to finish off kisame.

Well the other guy was saying that Bee was holding back and that if he didn't things would have gone differently. I don't necessarily agree to that nor neverything you just said but you do have a point.

 

[Uchihakil]

Uhm sasori does'nt bleed, c4 aint affecting him cause he does'nt breath also, that's why he told sakura he feels no pain cause its a puppet body , just wanna throw that in