Tsunade and Saukra vs Deidara and Kakuzu

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Deidara is just a trash match up for the uglier hulks. He mid difs struggling a bit against Katsuya's properties. Kakuzu can act as an distraction to make it a low diff win for Deidara
 
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Deidara solo's Kakuzu makes this a stomp.
 

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Deidara could, Kakuzu stands about a 0.00005% chance of soloing here. You're out of your mind.
Agreed, even Temari has a better chance at soloing this than Kakuzu. KKM is more dangerous to Tsunade and Sakura than anything in Kakuzu's arsenal.
 

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Agreed, even Temari has a better chance at soloing this than Kakuzu. KKM is more dangerous to Tsunade and Sakura than anything in Kakuzu's arsenal.

I agree. Didn't Kakuzu state himself that his attacks are incapable of putting down Hidan? Which holds true, seeing how Hidan damn near tanked a direct hit from Atsugai. The notion of Kakuzu soloing is especially hilarious when we consider the fact that Hidan is not significantly more durable than Sakura or Tsunade (if he even is at all), in addition to Byakugou's ridiculous healing capabilities. They destroy him. Temari is just a horrendous match-up for Sakura and Tsunade, much like Deidara is.
 
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I agree. Didn't Kakuzu state himself that his attacks are incapable of putting down Hidan? Which holds true, seeing how Hidan damn near tanked a direct hit from Atsugai. The notion of Kakuzu soloing is especially hilarious when we consider the fact that Hidan is not significantly more durable than Sakura or Tsunade (if he even is at all), in addition to Byakugou's ridiculous healing capabilities. They destroy him. Temari is just a horrendous match-up for Sakura and Tsunade, much like Deidara is.

Didn't Deidara state Sasori was stronger than him? Didn't Kisame casually suck Itachi's **** for half the manga? Y u using noob context?

Hidan isn't affected by physical injuries which Atsugai produces, it would still halt Tsunade and Sakura as they are not immune to physics :lol

Debatable if Kakuzu could solo this, at least without summons that is.
 

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Let me get this straight? The logic of Temeri soloing byakugou duo is by casual casually swinging her fan around until they are down? But its a joke of Kakuzu soloing when he is capable of using superior, multiple elemental scaling, covering more angles then she can put out?

Lol ok.
 

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Lmao, when Temari can easily 1HKO a guy that Kakuzu has canonically shown and stated to be incapable of taking down? I'd take Temari's far more lethal Fuuton over Kakuzu's individual elemental attacks almost any day of the week. At least her elemental attack can put meaningful damage on Sakura and Tsunade.
 

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Kakuzu's battle experience is commended by the Databook to the point where Kakuzu's ability to cooperate with his partners in a team battle was actually highlighted, so Kakuzu and Deidara would have the advantage in this match due to Kakuzu's ability to work better in team battles in comparison to Sakura and Tsunade.

That's not to say that it's an easy win because Tsunade is more than enough to handle Kakuzu, but adding Deidara in the mix simply adds more possibilities for the duo compared to simply adding in Sakura.

I'm more inclined to stick with Deidara and Kakuzu honestly. Add in Onoki instead of Sakura and I can see the duo winning more times than not.
 

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Lmao, when Temari can easily 1HKO a guy that Kakuzu has canonically shown and stated to be incapable of taking down? I'd take Temari's far more lethal Fuuton over Kakuzu's individual elemental attacks almost any day of the week. At least her elemental attack can put meaningful damage on Sakura and Tsunade.

Lmao not capable of killing him =/= not incapable of taking him down. Temeri's Futon priorities to cut doesnt automatically make her more stronger Futon then Kakuzu's. Its simply just a better match up based opponent.

Lets stop exaggerating now. Gian easily as useful chopping these duo up. And a Zukokku w/Futon nature change easily puts them in a condition where they cant simply get up from.
 

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Lmao, when Temari can easily 1HKO a guy that Kakuzu has canonically shown and stated to be incapable of taking down? I'd take Temari's far more lethal Fuuton over Kakuzu's individual elemental attacks almost any day of the week. At least her elemental attack can put meaningful damage on Sakura and Tsunade.

Lmfao this is the dumbest shit im reading. Kakuzu has more than just fuuton.

Everyone in this thread acting like Kakuzu is gonna go around spamming atsugai and if that doesn't work he's gonna quit and go home.
 

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Lmao not capable of killing him =/= not incapable of taking him down. Temeri's Futon priorities to cut doesnt automatically make her more stronger Futon then Kakuzu's. Its simply just a better match up based opponent.

Lets stop exaggerating now. Gian easily as useful chopping these duo up. And a Zukokku w/Futon nature change easily puts them in a condition where they cant simply get up from.

Temari's Fuuton is far more lethal and useful than Kakuzu's. So yes, I am inclined to say it is stronger based on killing potential.

You're the one who is exaggerating. Gian easily does what? Based on? Certainly not the manga.

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Kakuzu can't even dismember and dispose of Hidan, but I am supposed to believe he can do so against Tsunade and Sakura, while bypassing Byakogou. No thanks. I'll wait on actual manga proof displaying Kakuzu's phenomenal elemental feats that makes the notion of him soloing here anything less than a pipe-dream.

Lmfao this is the dumbest shit im reading. Kakuzu has more than just fuuton.

Everyone in this thread acting like Kakuzu is gonna go around spamming atsugai and if that doesn't work he's gonna quit and go home.

Oh word, you can read? Lmfao, guy over here talking about the dumbest shit he read, but couldn't comprehend what was even stated. Good shit. I knew this would be the thread to go to in order to get a good laugh.
 
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Temari's Fuuton is far more lethal and useful than Kakuzu's. So yes, I am inclined to say it is stronger based on killing potential.

You're the one who is exaggerating. Gian easily does what? Based on? Certainly not the manga.

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Kakuzu can't even dismember and dispose of Hidan, but I am supposed to believe he can do so against Tsunade and Sakura, while bypassing Byakogou. No thanks. I'll wait on actual manga proof displaying Kakuzu's phenomenal elemental feats that makes the notion of him soloing here anything less than a pipe-dream.



Oh word, you can read? Lmfao, guy over here talking about the dumbest shit he read, but couldn't comprehend what was even stated. Good shit. I knew this would be the thread to go to in order to get a good laugh.

Lmfaooo I can't believe this man is posting hype up panels to prove a point lmfao. Not to mention there is nothing wrong there, Kakuzu can't kill him. Hidan is pretty much unkillable. His body was in pieces, and he was alive. Even if Kakuzu manages to render him useless, how does that mean Kakuzu can kill him?

Kakuzu can literally rip Tsunade or Sakura's hearts right out their bodies. Good luck with Byakougou there.
 
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I really hope you arent messing with me.

Temari's Fuuton is far more lethal and useful than Kakuzu's. So yes, I am inclined to say it is stronger based on killing potential.

Only if you add no logic, then yea that leads the conclusion. Being used as cutting doesnt make it more lethal then then something being used to for crushing, stop. Temeri Futon only, and I repeat ONLY works better against opponents who have healing factor, due to the fact dismantling working better then blunt damage. Outside healing factor characters, Temeri doesnt compete against Kakuzu's Futon at all. Call me when Temeri jutsu was ever stated to reach high level category. Call me when the logic of change in chakra nature of hers can compete with Naruto's Futon, which Kakuzu matched canonically. Which puts Atsugai's gale force prowess to 50% FRS's gale force.

You're the one who is exaggerating. Gian easily does what? Based on? Certainly not the manga.

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Based on the fact that it's power rivals Rairiki? Based on the fact that the Spear of the Raiton is wider then the size of a human, you just post? Mr. Ray Charles over here. Lmao at you comparing the size Hidan's stake to the hitbox Gian would cover. Use some logic, the moment Gian pierces through the opponent (or object), the width of the jutsu would continue to do its work. Same logic as this[ ][ ]

Kakuzu can't even dismember and dispose of Hidan, but I am supposed to believe he can do so against Tsunade and Sakura, while bypassing Byakogou. No thanks. I'll wait on actual manga proof displaying Kakuzu's phenomenal elemental feats that makes the notion of him soloing here anything less than a pipe-dream.

Another joke being made by misquoting manga. Kakuzu saying in the manga, you literally just post, that he couldn't kill Hidan, somehow support to notion that he isnt capable of dismantling him. When we have actual feats supports that disprove any arguments that has been made to disagree by. Yea Ill wait on actual arguments that makes Temeri doing better performance for this match up then what Kakuzu would do.
 

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Elements blast the duo down, and yes Temari's fuuton is better for opponents who can't be damaged normally however its also much easier to avoid :lol Tsunade can one hit Hidan situationally as it would have to be a perfect shot to the face not debating this with anyone ever again as its so tedious :lol

Anyaywas after the elements continously barage the duo who can do nothing to get close to Kakuzu he would utilize his long and fast multiple array of threads within long range mode to add another dimension to the attack, one that eentually they'd succumb to.

Being on the defensive to
-4 Major elemental blasts
-8 Major lines of threads

Would allow them no time to even think of a counter attack due to their extremely slow arsenal. :lol at the first person who says "they'll grab the threads"
 

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Only if you add no logic, then yea that leads the conclusion. Being used as cutting doesnt make it more lethal then then something being used to for crushing, stop. Temeri Futon only, and I repeat ONLY works better against opponents who have healing factor, due to the fact dismantling working better then blunt damage. Outside healing factor characters, Temeri doesnt compete against Kakuzu's Futon at all. Call me when Temeri jutsu was ever stated to reach high level category. Call me when the logic of change in chakra nature of hers can compete with Naruto's Futon, which Kakuzu matched canonically. Which puts Atsugai's gale force prowess to 50% FRS's gale force.

Only if you ever capable of applying logic. Atsugai's lethalness was displayed where? I know you enjoy creating your own fantasy version of the manga, but I'm only interested in discussing the one Kishi wrote. Atsugai took down an entire forested area consisting of dead and hollow trees... Amazing, honestly. Temari back in part 1 much more impressively accomplished nearly the same , while one shotting a CM2 user. Atsugai failed to inflict any significant damage against a character who, while is immortal, is still very capable of being damaged. Lmao, my goodness.

Healing capability is irrelevant. I'll take an attack that can at least put damage on the 3rd Raikage, over one that can't even do so against Hidan. You're fanboying way too hard here. The notion of Atsugai being more lethal than Temari's Fuuton is baffling based on feats.

Based on the fact that it's power rivals Rairiki? Based on the fact that the Spear of the Raiton is wider then the size of a human, you just post? Mr. Ray Charles over here. Lmao at you comparing the size Hidan's stake to the hitbox Gian would cover. Use some logic, the moment Gian pierces through the opponent (or object), the width of the jutsu would continue to do its work. Same logic as this[ ][ ]

Fan fiction. Gian and Raikiri cancelling each other out was solely due to being the same element and having same chakra quantities [ ]. It has nothing to do with power. Raikiri's piercing power also depends upon a thrust anyways, which didn't occur here. Yes, because I was definitely comparing the size of the two. That's surely what I was aiming at, because that's definitely what I wrote. Then talks about Ray Charles. Lmao, I can't ever do this with you, seriously. It's the same sense of wtf is this niga on, every single time. The point was that Gian's piercing capabilities is dirt poor. He is incapable of disposing of Hidan, like he openly stated, despite Hidan's body easily being able to be pierced.

Another joke being made by misquoting manga. Kakuzu saying in the manga, you literally just post, that he couldn't kill Hidan, somehow support to notion that he isnt capable of dismantling him. When we have actual feats supports that disprove any arguments that has been made to disagree by. Yea Ill wait on actual arguments that makes Temeri doing better performance for this match up then what Kakuzu would do.

Dismantling Hidan and disposing of his body in a similar fashion as Shikamaru is the equivalent of killing him. Apparently, Kakuzu couldn't even do just that. And lmao, no. Kakuzu stating what he did, only implies he has attempted to kill Hidan multiple times, but failed to do so due to immortality. Baring that in mind, there is literally nothing supporting the notion of Gian being capable of bisecting or dismembering him, based on the fact that Kakuzu has only ever had to . All of this in addition to the fact, that Hidan has already canonically withstood one of Kakuzu's elemental attacks with little to no injury, which leads me to believe no different with the others, also of which being completely accurate with what was stated in the manga. See how that all magically works?

Yeah, I'll wait on when you're finally finished discussing your fantasy manga and capable of showing concrete feats displaying the lethalness of Kakuzu's elemental attacks. Temari's Fuuton>Kakuzu's individual elements in terms of lethalness. Shown in the manga.
 
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Only if you ever capable of applying logic. Atsugai's lethalness was displayed where? I know you enjoy creating your own fantasy version of the manga, but I'm only interested in discussing the one Kishi wrote. Atsugai took down an entire forested area consisting of dead and hollow trees... Amazing, honestly. Temari back in part 1 much more impressively accomplished nearly the same , while one shotting a CM2 user. Atsugai failed to inflict any significant damage against a character who, while is immortal, is still very capable of being damaged. Lmao, my goodness.

Now I know you are running out of arguments to make. You are concern by the damage done in the landscapes to testify the feats to mean nothing, despite me already jotting down 2 reasons why the manga disagree with your dumb reason to downplay feats. Despite what you say, Kishomoto made it manga fact that Kakuzu element reaches high level[ ]. Something never stated by Temari of reaching. 2.) By feats the logic of exchanged, his futon (changed nature) matched the power of Naruto's Futon (changed nature)[ ] making them dead equal in power. Which is once again superior then Temari Futon.


Healing capability is irrelevant. I'll take an attack that can at least put damage on the 3rd Raikage, over one that can't even do so against Hidan. You're fanboying way too hard here. The notion of Atsugai being more lethal than Temari's Fuuton is baffling based on feats.

Desperately trying to make a point irrelevant so it wouldnt defy your logic and arguments. Sorry buddy not how it works. Cutting output different outcomes to by crush damage, stop defying logic. And read the manga, they made it clear that they did not put not one slight damage to Raikage's body[ [<-Inb4 reading through the cracks of scans damaged of Raikage to invalidate the statement made] (and the fact that her futon was a combine team effort lmao). So you have no point and you need to stop frontin with this ad hom shit. Its played out.

Fan fiction. Gian and Raikiri cancelling each other out was solely due to being the same element and having same chakra quantities [ ]. It has nothing to do with power. Raikiri's piercing power also depends upon a thrust anyways, which didn't occur here. Yes, because I was definitely comparing the size of the two. That's surely what I was aiming at, because that's definitely what I wrote. Then talks about Ray Charles. Lmao, I can't ever do this with you, seriously. It's the same sense of wtf is this niga on, every single time. The point was that Gian's piercing capabilities is dirt poor. He is incapable of disposing of Hidan, like he openly stated, despite Hidan's body easily being able to be pierced.

Lmao has nothing to do with power gtfo with that bullshit. The context is clearly talking about jutsus at the same level as each other clashing. The one with that puts the most chakra wins. Im not playing with this game of you misusing context for your fittings of downplay. Stop fronting FT, manga made it clear that Kakuzu's Raiton is high level and was a reason it can cancel out an attack like Raikiri.

Dismantling Hidan and disposing of his body in a similar fashion as Shikamaru is the equivalent of killing him. Apparently, Kakuzu couldn't even do just that. And lmao, no. Kakuzu stating what he did, only implies he has attempted to kill Hidan multiple times, but failed to do so due to immortality. Baring that in mind, there is literally nothing supporting the notion of Gian being capable of bisecting or dismembering him, based on the fact that Kakuzu has only ever had to . All of this in addition to the fact, that Hidan has already canonically withstood one of Kakuzu's elemental attacks with little to no injury, which leads me to believe no different with the others, also of which being completely accurate with what was stated in the manga. See how that all magically works?

. Apparently, your clinging on the worst fan translation to try and make your point to make sense, despite far better translation out there that are better[ ]. No other context implied he try to killed Hidan, yet alone multiple times.

@Bold, Great so I would love to use this logic concerning Tameri's jutsu too. This works out perfect.

Yeah, I'll wait on when you're finally finished discussing your fantasy manga and capable of showing concrete feats displaying the lethalness of Kakuzu's elemental attacks. Temari's Fuuton>Kakuzu's individual elements in terms of lethalness. Shown in the manga.

Missed quoting and mis using scans/feats showed once again. And actually arguing that Temeri is superior character than Kakuzu is baffling.
 
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Nano bombs ftw


Edit: -.- why is it restricted I'm tired of all these threads with redirections if u have to restrict a character then clearly that shows u who would win ...
 
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