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At the end of the day its just an illusion.
And Infinite Tsukyomi is also an illusion. What's your point?
At the end of the day its just an illusion.
And Infinite Tsukyomi is also an illusion. What's your point?
Was it broken by anything Hashirama could have done? Was it broken by anyone other than the one person aside from the caster who had the prerequisite to break it (rinnegan)? Yeah the answer is no.Infinite Tsukyomi was also broken. I'm an Itachi Fan but yeah it can be broken by other means. If not that would make Itachi by far the strongest character within the Naruto verse. Everyone is making it seem like it would take down anyone. Hashirama fought and defeated Madara by far the strongest Uchiha introduced. This has gone from reality to compete fan fiction.
Infinite Tsukyomi was also broken. I'm an Itachi Fan but yeah it can be broken by other means. If not that would make Itachi by far the strongest character within the Naruto verse. Everyone is making it seem like it would take down anyone. Hashirama fought and defeated Madara by far the strongest Uchiha introduced. This has gone from reality to compete fan fiction.
Was it broken by anything Hashirama could have done? Was it broken by anyone other than the one person aside from the caster who had the prerequisite to break it (rinnegan)? Yeah the answer is no.
So what have we learned? Not every genjustu can be broken with the usual methods no matter who you are.
And if anything, the fact that Hashirama has faced a Mangekyou user before and won only makes him more vulnerable to Tsukuyomi because he will meet Itachi's eyes without thinking twice about it. Oh well
For the record any fight that didn't happen is fanfiction, so saying Hashirama defeats Itachi is just as much fanfic as the vice versa.
And Infinite Tsukyomi is also an illusion. What's your point?
You act as if that can't be broken? My point was its an illusion.. What part did you not get?
It can by anyone with the Uchiha's KKG and Skilled Mastery over Yin Release.
You act as if Tsukyomi falls under the same spectrum as any other Genjutsu as it's an illusion despite the fact that IT is an illusion yet operates entirely differently.
I'm not saying hashi couldn't do that, I'm saying would hashi do that? Like you said, he is the god of shinobi, why would he without intel go that far to deal with genjutsu? You mention his constant battles with madara, but that's my point. Base off his exp with madara, he should know his genjutsu is shit or let me rephrase that, is breakable like all uchihas. <- this is what gives itachi the underline advantage. Hashi has never faced any uchiha with genjutsu feats like itachi's. He wouldn't be able to stop it until it's too late. Why? Because hashi has been shown to face madara 1 on 1, staring at his eyes with no fear at all. The wood clone trick he pulled on madara was not to counter gen but just to catch fatigue madara off guard as a decoy. That's it
Intel isn't always needed but in circumstance like hax dojutsus it's needed. Speaking of your kakashi example, he knew uchiha gen was a threat and assumed he'd be able to resist it and still got hit like a train. But guess what? In his rematch against itachi, while tsuku was restricted he was properly able to adjust with itachi's known feats due to intel about itachi. Why can't the same be said for hashi?
Was it broken by anything Hashirama could have done? Was it broken by anyone other than the one person aside from the caster who had the prerequisite to break it (rinnegan)? Yeah the answer is no.
So what have we learned? Not every genjustu can be broken with the usual methods no matter who you are.
And if anything, the fact that Hashirama has faced a Mangekyou user before and won only makes him more vulnerable to Tsukuyomi because he will meet Itachi's eyes without thinking twice about it. Oh well
For the record any fight that didn't happen is fanfiction, so saying Hashirama defeats Itachi is just as much fanfic as the vice versa.
Genjutsu's are broken all the same.
Terrible rebuttal.
All Genjutsus are breakable, but that's not really the debate here at all.
You're not a true Itachi fan if you spout bullshit like this.
Tsukuyomi can only be broken by the stipulations Itachi, and the Databook both state. Stop spouting nonsense.
It really is :| Do you not realize Tsukuyomi is a Genjutsu? So saying how a Genjutsu can be broken is related to the debate.
Do you not realize I admitted that it was breakable in the very first post you quoted from me?
Bro. Itachi let sasuke break his gen. Obito in his own words said sasuke didnt see through shit in battle and in character.
Then what else do you want? Lmao
Hey, OP, Naruto isn't getting out. Nor is Minato. We both know where this is going; am I right? By god, look at the poll results. Typical wankers. No one bar an Uchiha with a Sharingan is getting out. Period. Get over yourselves already.
Great, then I don't know why you're telling me it's an illusion, therefore it's breakable when I admitted that it was breakable in the first place.
Has nothing to do with Naruto, not sure where you get Minato from.. A genjutsu can be broken by a skilled enough person.