Good & Evil Are Man Made Concepts

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A lot of folks seem to think it is.




"Good and evil is a judgment. To consider something better than or worse than is a judgment. Evil is something of inferior quality compared to something better, therefore a lesser good is considered evil when compared with a greater good. When there is no judgment, there is no consideration of something being better or worse than another. Everything is accepted equally as it is. Judgment creates separation of one thing with another whereas non judgment sees the oneness and equality of all things."


If good and evil truly existed why is it subjective?

There's nothing really factual about good and evil since it varies from person to person.

Like Hitler for example.

To the jews,america and it's allies Hitler was the worse thing since satan.

But to germany and the nazi's hitler was a messiah.

But wait? hitler killed millions, how can he be "good"

Truth is Human's arent neither good nor bad. We're just interactive.

What one human may consider "good" another may consider "bad".


Even if you get a bunch of people to agree on your perception. It's still isnt factual since it's not accepted universally.

So in a sense it's really just a cluster of people agreeing to have the same perception of what they consider good and bad.

When your born, your taught the wrong's and right's of society. So you use that to decide what you think is good and bad.


But where did society learn of "good" and "evil"?? "Good" and "Evil" started with religion considering most ancient culture's were religious in some way.

Humanity adopted this concept.

When something harms or changes your views of "good" you label it as "bad".

But what harms and help's a person varies from individual's.

Cause if good and evil existed it wouldnt just apply to humans obviously.

Everything seems to be cause and effect

One horrible thing in the universe probably stopped 100,000 horrible thing's from happening years later.

If good and evil were real they would co-exist and it would impossible to vanquish one without vanquishing the other.

They're opposites of the same string.

The universe itself is just one big interaction, we're apart of that interaction.

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The action may not be perceived as evil, but the experience of the action is always the experience of evil.
 

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Your signature is an example of evilness.

OT: Good and Evil is not subjective... gtfo lol. Didn't you read the bible of narujesus? If you hurt someone = BAD, if you want revenge = bad, if you want to fap = bad... we need to praise lord naruto and accept him as our lord and satan... we need madara to genjutsu everyone of us so we can stop the good and bad term.

Jokes aside, good and bad is not subjective and I dunno how to explain it. I'ma go sleep
 

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If you don't believe in religion then it doesn't make sense to say it invented what's wrong or right/good and evil. Rather, religion could've just formed from society's views at the time.

As for the last image. God is able but not willing doesn't make him malevolent, he will punish the evil in the afterlife and reward the good. If he's the creator of everything then that includes good and evil.

But yeah, morality varies from person to person.
 

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Also note that even other animals have dos and donts.
 

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Good and evil is real. I've heard this argument before and as much as people try to claim it to be true, I think it's bs. It's wrong to kill. People may still do it and believe what they are doing is good but ultimately it's wrong.

It's not even so much about killing they're are so many different kinds of evil in the world.
 

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Living by the golden rule seems enough to me. If it goes against the golden rule, it's "evil" if not it's "good". Trying to define evil and good is mostly mental masturbation anyway.
 

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If you don't believe in religion then it doesn't make sense to say it invented what's wrong or right/good and evil. Rather, religion could've just formed from society's views at the time.

As for the last image. God is able but not willing doesn't make him malevolent, he will punish the evil in the afterlife and reward the good. If he's the creator of everything then that includes good and evil.

But yeah, morality varies from person to person.
If I'm a armed cop and I chose to watch a woman be murdered and raped right in front of me rather then save her and instead promise her that I'll arrest him right away after she's dead I'm not malevolent?

Maybe not but I'm a ****ing dick that definitely cannot be called good or deserving of praise.
 

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Forgot to mention that I'll forgive the rapist/murderer if he admits he was wrong to do it and apologizes.
 

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If I'm a armed cop and I chose to watch a woman be murdered and raped right in front of me rather then save her and instead promise her that I'll arrest him right away after she's dead I'm not malevolent?

Maybe not but I'm a ****ing dick that definitely cannot be called good or deserving of praise.

God's the guy who created good and evil and put it on this world. If you let someone step on an ant are you evil?
 

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Forgot to mention that I'll forgive the rapist/murderer if he admits he was wrong to do it and apologizes.
You forgot where God gave her life and then when she died gave her an afterlife of happiness.
 

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God's the guy who created good and evil and put it on this world. If you let someone step on an ant are you evil?
We aren't really ants if that's the case though. We're more or less his children, try using that instead of ants in your question. :lol

But yeah if you created the ants and then allowed them to kill each other, be killed and even killed plenty yourself I'd call you evil.
You forgot where God gave her life and then when she died gave her an afterlife of happiness.
Nah, cause see while I was busy allowing her to be raped and killed, this good religious woman lost her faith and no longer believed I existed. After all surely I would never let this happen to her?

So I actually threw her in hell for eternity, oh well.
 
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If good and evil are polar concepts that apply to man's characteristics so without them they wouldn't exist. After all you cant apply this to nature which just is
 

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We aren't really ants if that's the case though. We're more or less his children, try using that instead of ants in your question. :lol

But yeah if you created the ants and then allowed them to kill each other, be killed and even killed plenty yourself I'd call you evil.
I just don't know how the same rules applied to the guy who made good and evil. If God was an omnipotent being who created this, how could it matter to him, and even then what's the point of giving us free will?
To stop us as soon as we use it? In the Abrahamic religions, you'd know that this world is not what we were made for.

The point is if you believe in God then you believe God saves you after you die.
 
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Morals in general tend to be. Plus using this kind of logic, one could say that many ideological concepts or even societal habits are "man made". Hell even simple in
Irefutebale tautological systems that are considered facts like 2+2 being 4 are also to be questioned with this type of logic as they're really nothing but man made concepts that help people with various parts in their lives(comprehension, controlling, evolving etc...)
 

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I just don't know how the same rules applied to the guy who made good and evil. If God was an omnipotent being who created this, how could it matter to him, and even then what's the point of giving us free will?
To stop us as soon as we use it? In the Abrahamic religions, you'd know that this world is not what we were made for.

What's evil is blaming others for your actions.
Not really sure what you're saying, is it that that we and what happens to us doesn't matter to God or that things like good and evil don't matter to him?

Sure but what does that make the being who knowingly created the person that committed the crime in the first place.

I'm not expecting you to have answers by the way. Just playing devil's advocate.
 
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Your signature is an example of evilness.

OT: Good and Evil is not subjective... gtfo lol. Didn't you read the bible of narujesus? If you hurt someone = BAD, if you want revenge = bad, if you want to fap = bad... we need to praise lord naruto and accept him as our lord and satan... we need madara to genjutsu everyone of us so we can stop the good and bad term.

Jokes aside, good and bad is not subjective and I dunno how to explain it. I'ma go sleep

Your sig bro....:lmao:

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Good and evil are simply relative to the person so technically you are right but also wrong at the same time.
 

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Like Hitler for example.

To the jews,america and it's allies Hitler was the worse thing since satan.

But to germany and the nazi's hitler was a messiah.

But wait? hitler killed millions, how can he be "good"

Truth is Human's arent neither good nor bad. We're just interactive.

The part about Hitler being the Messiah for the Germans is incorrect. There's a huge difference in being German and being a Nazi.

Men are neither good nor evil. One's actions however, can be good or evil. That's what a lot of philosophers think, such as Kant.
He says that there are "rules", which you absolutely cannot break, if you don't want to be doomed as evil. No matter the case.
You can, however have a "good will" to support your action and lower the level of how morally wrong it is.

Then there's also people like Bentham and Mill who support the utilitarianism, which basically says that as long as you think about the quality and quantity of happiness, which gets maximized during/after your action, you can break morals and still be "good".
 
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Not really sure what you're saying, is it that that we and what happens to us doesn't matter to God or that things like good and evil don't matter to him?

Sure but what does that make the being who knowingly created the person that committed the crime in the first place.

I'm not expecting you to have answers by the way. Just playing devil's advocate.
I'm just saying if God made good and evil, to be applied to us, applying it to him wouldn't make sense. The creator isn't part of the creation, he's not good or evil.
 
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