Is The Death Sentence Really Needed In Laws?

[Devauzamaki]

I mean i know they're are pyschooaths and sociopaths etc etc.

I know that there are people who have no regard for human life.

But why not settle for life in prison?

Do they not know a person's life isnt there own?

What if they killer had relatives that loved them and tried to help?

Who do they turn their anger and anguish towards for giving their love one death sentence instead of life?

The gov cant tell the people their anger isnt justified either.

The goal is to avoid deaths as much as possible. Not reciprocate it as "revenge" or "cause they deserved"

If people keep using this mentality they going to continue to birth the very thing they're trying to defeat.

Just settle for life sentence.

Killing is wrong yeah, But going by that logic look at our history.

America took the live's of millions of innocent people but because it's in our personal interest it's apparently okay.

Besides the optimist need to get real. The gov isnt about bringing peace, it's about personal interest.

Each politician has their own agenda in mind. And when countries work together it's usually for mutual benefit.

Law's arent in place for a Utopian society. it's in place to keep you in check so you as in individual keep provide more to your country.

And when your not or just downright going against set standards (criminals and enemies) you casted aside (jail,prison,etc)


Death Sentence is hypocritical of america!! take it away!

 

[Claymantan]

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I agree that the death sentence is nothing more than a waste of time and money though

More expensive, ineffective

 

[Jinrou]

After seeing the title I was going to come in here yelling yes. But reading through, I guess you have a point.
Still though, it's difficult for me to accept nothing less than the death penalty for child murderers.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

You kill someone that didn't deserve it then you should be killed

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[Devauzamaki]

You kill someone that didn't deserve it then you should be killed

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And Then Who Kill's You For Killing Them? And So Forth?

 

[kimb]

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I agree that the death sentence is nothing more than a waste of time and money though

More expensive, ineffective

Wouldn't it be more costly if you kept someone alive for a life sentence rather than giving him the death sentence and being done with it?

 

[Avani]

Yes it's needed. It's not to be taken lightly or awarded in a hurry but is still needed.

BTW half of your post didn't make any sense and seemed like unrelated rambling. If you have a point in there it's not clear.

 

[Claymantan]

Wouldn't it be more costly if you kept someone alive for a life sentence rather than giving him the death sentence and being done with it?

On average, no. Average time spent on a life sentence:

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Average time spent on death row:

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: $900,000 - $1,500,000 (life imprisonment) vs. $450,000 - $750,000 (death row)

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At first glance, this might make it seem like the death sentence is cheaper, but

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. So death penalty cases start off with this huge leap in expenses that more than covers the difference.

So on average, the death penalty does not save any money at all, and is significantly more expensive. Where there are savings, it's pretty minimal. Either way, doing away with the death penalty entirely would definitely save a lot of money (because no more expensive death penalty cases). You gotta ask yourself whether what amounts to personal vengeance is worth so much disproportionate public investment from a judiciary that's supposed to be disinterested and impartial.

Should criminals convicted of capital crimes be allowed to cost the public millions of dollars per case, in addition to the violence and trauma they inflicted with their original crime?

And this is without going into literal miscarriages of justice, like that

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The death penalty costs too much and risks too much.

(Argument is based on the way the U.S. does things.)

 

[Joon]

I never liked the death penalty and I think it is unethical.

You are no better than a criminal.

 

[Joker]

I never liked the death penalty and I think it is unethical.

You are no better than a criminal.

Lmao, yeah, you are. Y'all wanna be Naruto so bad with this ideology that if you stop someone from killing other people, you'll be just as worse as them.

OT: The death penalty doesn't need to be that expensive, just shoot 'em in the head or something.

 

[Claymantan]

Lmao, yeah, you are. Y'all wanna be Naruto so bad with this ideology that if you stop someone from killing other people, you'll be just as worse as them.

OT: The death penalty doesn't need to be that expensive, just shoot 'em in the head or something.

That's not why it's expensive. That accounts for some thousands to ten thousands maybe, but the expense is in the hundreds of thousands to millions in total.

 

[Ciao]

death sentence should only be the punishment for cases where there is 0 irrefutable evidence that the perpetrator committed the crime
if a jury even has the slightest smallest tiniest shadow of a doubt then life sentence should be the punishment
also i think firing squad should be the official form of execution but only have people volunteer to be executioner not a required duty for CJ employees

 

[Punk Hazard]

Only reason I have for being against the death sentence is the chance that person is actually innocent. Too many times have people been executed for crimes that were proven to be committed by someone else or the real perp came out and confessed.

What if they killer had relatives that loved them and tried to help?

Who do they turn their anger and anguish towards for giving their love one death sentence instead of life?
The gov cant tell the people their anger isnt justified either.

I'm pretty sure their family member being in jail and being a killer causes anguish on its own. By this logic, we shouldn't punish them at all and just pretend it never happened and let them keep on living with their loved one.

Just settle for life sentence.

Killing is wrong yeah

Death Sentence is hypocritical of america!! take it away!

Wrong. Taking a life isn't wrong, taking a life in a scenario that doesn't justify the action is wrong. What separates morally right and morally wrong isn't whether one side takes a life or not, it's WHY each side would go about taking a life.

When you unjustifiably take another's life or take away the quality of someone else's life significantly, then yours is no longer worth preserving. By taking the value and quality of someone else's life, you relinquish yours.

 

[Joon]

Lmao, yeah, you are. Y'all wanna be Naruto so bad with this ideology that if you stop someone from killing other people, you'll be just as worse as them.

OT: The death penalty doesn't need to be that expensive, just shoot 'em in the head or something.

It's not about being Naruto. :/

These are real lives. People could be wrongfully convicted. People are so bent on revenge (which is what it is) to be blinded lead into believing the innocent committed the crime.

Not just that, the Prison System isn't designed for that. It's for rehabilitation. No. I'm not saying murders should walk. I'm saying it's better to live, to suffer, than die instantly.

 

[GreyWizard93]

If you kill then you should be killed. The life sentence goes to those who lost the murdered relative. Stop using our taxes to keep those alive who don't deserve it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's not about being Naruto. :/

These are real lives. People could be wrongfully convicted. People are so bent on revenge (which is what it is) to be blinded lead into believing the innocent committed the crime.

Not just that, the Prison System isn't designed for that. It's for rehabilitation. No. I'm not saying murders should walk. I'm saying it's better to live, to suffer, than die instantly.

It's unethical to kill people in an instant but it's more ethical to make them live miserable, painful, and suffering lives until they get murdered in prison or die of natural causes. Makes sense.

 

[Claymantan]

It's unethical to kill people in an instant but it's more ethical to make them live miserable, painful, and suffering lives until they get murdered in prison or die of natural causes. Makes sense.

That's not really what happens to lifers, but letting people die of natural causes is about as ethical as you can get xD. It's not like they're in Gitmo. They get medical services, food, and have more spent on them per year than many civilians make annually.

 

[Joon]

It's unethical to kill people in an instant but it's more ethical to make them live miserable, painful, and suffering lives until they get murdered in prison or die of natural causes. Makes sense.

Murders would rather die than live to recollect the victims lives they took.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Murders would rather die than live to recollect the victims lives they took.

Yeah, that's the point. You're saying it's unethical and cruel to kill them, and then you vouch for keeping them alive because they'll suffer more than way.

 

[Devauzamaki]

If you kill then you should be killed. The life sentence goes to those who lost the murdered relative. Stop using our taxes to keep those alive who don't deserve it.

Who gave us the authority to decide what's worthy of living and what's not? Do you really think it's man's place to be the judge over life and death? Is that not a self given title? It's quite selfish to give ourselves that level of importance.