Is The Death Sentence Really Needed In Laws?

[Lightbringer]

Not me. The victims' families- they need some form of closure.



I was unaware of the percentage, so thanks for providing it (albeit without a source, but you're usually a well-informed poster so I don't have a problem taking your word for it).



@underlined- No, I'm not "okay" with murdering innocent people. And that retort could be taken either way btw.
Don't support death penalty? One could say that by default that is equivalent to supporting murder of innocents as adequate repercussions were not present for the individual who willingly carried out the heartless act. Support death penalty? One could say that by default- well, your argument just now. But those are both pretty shoddy and sweeping statements. There's much more to it than that.

I wouldn't say either of us supports "murder of innocents".

I get what you mean. You don't think a chance should be taken when innocent lives could be put on the line. It's not fair and you believe that it's better to not even start a scenario where an innocent person could be placed on death row, that the issue should just not be touched.

However, with this there is no justice for many and crime continues (as most murderers actually don't fear life in prison, if that's the worst that could happen to them) moreso than it does with the presence of the death penalty.

An innocent person being condemned for a crime they did not commit doesn't stem just from the existence of the death penalty. It stems from an inefficient justice system that is not thorough enough. It's a dark reality. Should we also stop putting people behind bars period, since people could mistakenly spend years in prison for something they didn't do? Should we stop punishing criminals altogether and just play it 100% safe then? I don't think that's feasible either.

I'd rather support the usual penalties for crimes (ex in this thread: death penalty for a murderer) in addition to a better, more careful and thorough justice system.

But maybe that's all a pipe dream since the death penalty is not getting removed as you wish and there are not going to be more actions taken in order to truly confirm someone of an evil act like I wish (in order to avoid killing an innocent person) anytime soon.

Well closure is not what the justice system revolves around. Justice is blind and does not abide to the emotions of the victims. Justice is meant to be objective.

If justice was made to appease the victims, then that would by definition be vengeance and surely would have more cases of death penalties. It is an archaic concept to take an eye for an eye.

If the inmates are put behind bars with no parole, then it already separates them from society, it already punishes them, and can sometimes give them a chance to reflect and regret on their actions. Why is death necessary in this scenario?

Also lethal injections is more costly than life imprisonment. Not only that, but if the individual does turn out to be innocent then he can still be set free with compensation rather than finding out the truth when they are already dead.

There is no credible argument that death penalty deters crime regardless. Currently more and more states are starting to get rid of capital punishment and the U.S. is the only western country that still applies it (aside for Belarus). So eventually we'll get there.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

If someone kills in 1st degree, what do you think?